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geript
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geript
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
Yeah...kinda lost interest for tonight, sorry ^^; | ||
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AT.Epiphany
India117 Posts
Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler. It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread. 1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus. 2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out. 3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes. 4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me). | ||
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AT.Epiphany
India117 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
Plus in our little spat, like he acted completely differently in thread than he did in pms. In a way that I don't really expect out of him. So it's really weird on that end. Regarding. HtS, her opening is definitely quite different from her town games. But it's like 1 am here. I'll follow up on that more after some rest and I get some medication because my ear is really fucking killing me. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote: So here's my scumread on Geript: Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler. It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread. 1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus. 2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out. 3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes. 4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me). Ok so let's talk meta. Every single time I've been mafia I've been far more confrontational? What games ahve I been mafia in? Have I never as town pushed multiple lynch targets at the same time? Like your meta of me is really, really fucking off. Explain your shit or die. Becuase I'm not going to get fucking mislynched again because some fucking scrub from some fucking scrubass site comes into my house and tries to lynch me. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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AT.Epiphany
India117 Posts
On March 03 2015 15:07 geript wrote: Ok so let's talk meta. Every single time I've been mafia I've been far more confrontational? What games ahve I been mafia in? Have I never as town pushed multiple lynch targets at the same time? Like your meta of me is really, really fucking off. Explain your shit or die. Becuase I'm not going to get fucking mislynched again because some fucking scrub from some fucking scrubass site comes into my house and tries to lynch me. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU SHITFACE. I'm not going to take being insulted by you just because I'm new to a site. You better behave with respect you prick. You started absuing me from the first post, and I'm not gonna stand and take it. The forum doesn't belong to you. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote: So here's my scumread on Geript: Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler. It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread. 1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus. 2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out. 3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes. 4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me). 1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus 2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p 3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah. 4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him? On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote: You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you. Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour. You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up. Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post. Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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AT.Epiphany
India117 Posts
On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote: 1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus 2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p 3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah. 4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him? You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up. Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post. Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help. I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid. I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote: I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid. I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way. Oh sweet, 40 minutes reading meta. We've got an expert here! + Show Spoiler + I'm just fucking around with you, don't get mad! | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
2)I never said we should hunt the 3P. I said I'd prefer to lynch 3P than mafia on D1. Like that's really fucking obvious. Second, anyone who believes that a mafia shot over a 3P shot is preferable is a fucking retard and doesn't know how games like this go. Hell Toad's argument is literally, "Well in one game mafia were retarded enough to spend 3 kp on me." Yet in more games assassins/ninja's/dueling3P roles tend to fuck up town far more than help. Plus, with instant 2 shot KP on 2 different people, we can have exceptionally dangerous lynch situations ala Demon's run where Kita's shots threw shit all out of whack. 3. That's not even the point of having a list of people who I'm ok with being the shooter. The whole point is to have a town controlled shot and hold anyone not on that list uber responsible for their shit. Getting into a universally townread circle while still having to explain the shot is significantly harder than any of this "let's pretend it's a lynch" bullshit that most people will just fucking ignore. 4) There's no fight here. I'm a big boy and you're still wearing pullups. If you're town, then maybe you'd be able to realize why I'm town. Probably not by how you're talking. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 03 2015 15:10 Keirathi wrote: rofl oh god geript, what did you do this time!? Not me. Dude thinks he can walk in here and meta me all wrong. Like I don't think most of my scumgames even show up any more. Like he doesn't even take context of the thread into account at all. IDK man, dude walked in with a stick up his ass. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 03 2015 15:14 Keirathi wrote: Oh sweet, 40 minutes reading meta. We've got an expert here! + Show Spoiler + I'm just fucking around with you, don't get mad! I'm very sad that you don't have a Neil Degrasse Tyson meme with this. | ||
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AT.Epiphany
India117 Posts
On March 03 2015 15:15 geript wrote: 1)How in the fuck am I even trying to normalize the idea of someone shooting at 24 hours? It's not like that's a new idea or unique to me. I'm also not trying to "make it okay" for anyone to shoot, a point which you bring up but dismiss out of hand. 2)I never said we should hunt the 3P. I said I'd prefer to lynch 3P than mafia on D1. Like that's really fucking obvious. Second, anyone who believes that a mafia shot over a 3P shot is preferable is a fucking retard and doesn't know how games like this go. Hell Toad's argument is literally, "Well in one game mafia were retarded enough to spend 3 kp on me." Yet in more games assassins/ninja's/dueling3P roles tend to fuck up town far more than help. Plus, with instant 2 shot KP on 2 different people, we can have exceptionally dangerous lynch situations ala Demon's run where Kita's shots threw shit all out of whack. 3. That's not even the point of having a list of people who I'm ok with being the shooter. The whole point is to have a town controlled shot and hold anyone not on that list uber responsible for their shit. Getting into a universally townread circle while still having to explain the shot is significantly harder than any of this "let's pretend it's a lynch" bullshit that most people will just fucking ignore. 4) There's no fight here. I'm a big boy and you're still wearing pullups. If you're town, then maybe you'd be able to realize why I'm town. Probably not by how you're talking. 1. You really were trying to make it okay to shoot. In fact, you've declared that's what you're going to do regardless. 2. You said "we should try to kill the 3P". Unless you have a way of doing so without finding them, yes you did argue for hunting them. 3. Let's pretend it's a lynch is close to "town controlled" than you making up your pseudo-version of who you think the town is and then giving them license to shoot. That model works much better for the mafia because they have perfect information and are much more likely to get a free kill with no risk. 4. This is exactly how you behaved in one of those games you were mafia. "I am the best player here" were your words in that game. You can get lost with your big boy rubbish, I'm not kow-towing to you so FO. | ||
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AT.Epiphany
India117 Posts
On March 03 2015 15:18 geript wrote: Not me. Dude thinks he can walk in here and meta me all wrong. Like I don't think most of my scumgames even show up any more. Like he doesn't even take context of the thread into account at all. IDK man, dude walked in with a stick up his ass. You were the one who started abusing me for literally no reason. Imagine how you behave if I was the one who started the abuse? | ||
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geript
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geript
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On March 03 2015 15:24 AT.Epiphany wrote: 1. You really were trying to make it okay to shoot. In fact, you've declared that's what you're going to do regardless. 2. You said "we should try to kill the 3P". Unless you have a way of doing so without finding them, yes you did argue for hunting them. 3. Let's pretend it's a lynch is close to "town controlled" than you making up your pseudo-version of who you think the town is and then giving them license to shoot. That model works much better for the mafia because they have perfect information and are much more likely to get a free kill with no risk. 4. This is exactly how you behaved in one of those games you were mafia. "I am the best player here" were your words in that game. You can get lost with your big boy rubbish, I'm not kow-towing to you so FO. 1. I'm going to shoot because I know town controls that shot and because I have really fucking amazing townreads and pretty solid scumreads. Especially great meta reads. 2. You find 3P the same way you find mafia. Like the only difference is that they aren't on a team. Like there's literally no difference between hunting mafia and hunting 3P. 3. Psuedo version of town? Are you fucking kidding me? It's not a psuedo version. My towndreads are really, really damn good. I don't think I've misread Damdred for a while. I've never misread Slam. I literally have always called for rsoultin's lynch when she's mafia. There's not psuedo version of town. It's town. You aren't in it. Robik isn't in it. Koshi definitely isn't in it. 4. Yes, and I've never ever in any of my town games thought of myself as the best player in the game. Never in a million years. I'd never be salty about getting mislynched by a bunch of noobs for like 5 games in a row after said noobs have been townreading me all D1. Like you want to talk about my meta. Then you'd have known all this from the last game I played. Or the game before that. Or the game before that. Really, you're just another scrub who thinks they can read me and has no fucking clue how. Like I'm really, really fucking easy to read. There's literally not a signle point that you've made that makes me mafia. Not a single damn thing. | ||
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