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omgg I got fucking bombarded these days about Course selection. Ok..i'm in grade 11 and im totally fucked! SO far i have no idea what i want to get into, maybee engineering and mathy stuff (can anyone help me think of a career that has a lot to do with math?) And i might go into accounting but thats too late, i dun have the courses. FUCKKK i should have taken this thing seriously back in grade 10, oh well =/ Anyways recently my parents bugged the shit outta me, i live in canada and they want me to go to the states for university, persumably Harvardd or other famous U.S university, and i was just wondering, assuming i get a satisfacting SAT mark (let's sayy 2100/2400) and i get a 90ish average in grade 12, what other requirements are needed for U.S university? DO they actually look at theee extracurricular stuff and volunteer hours?? orr are the marks the most important? And if let's sayy i didnt participate a lot in clubs at school or didnt get too many volunteer hours, would they still consider letting me apply and get in??
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yes, they do look at extracurricular activities. It's actually pretty important. You don't have a very good chance if you only have good grades/SAT and nothing else.
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For those universities, you have almost no chance with only grades/SATs etc. During early action/early decision however, some of those universities will make their decisions based solely on your academic abilities. To get in through that way, it's almost impossible to get in unless you're one of those students who get a 2400 on your SATs, along with various accomplishments (such as math contests) at the top of the national level or even the international level.
If you're looking for a career in math, I'd recommend taking some courses in computer science (if you haven't already).
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I'm studying in the US right now. The above posters said it's almost impossible to get in through marks and SAT alone. I say it IS impossible for international students. Everyone will tell you something different about what's important but I can generalize that you have to show somehow that you're exceptional. Don't worry, it's not too late. I also slacked off until grade 11. You have two options: show extraordinary abilities in some subject or be all-around accomplished. Since you don't know what you want to do, I recommend taking the latter approach. Join some clubs and get into leadership positions. Also, try to do stuff outside of school. If you're leaning towards math or engineering, doing math/science competitions is a must. Ask your teachers about opportunities. Finally, you need the balls to get 5 rejection letters and move on.
Good luck!
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It is impossible to get into a top US college as an international student without amazing extracurriculars AND grades... but there is no harm in trying.
For a career involving mathematics: you could consider becoming a mathematician and doing research in mathematics... it's the obvious choice
Consider taking and practicing for some of the Canadian high school math contests. They are generally easier than the US contests and a good result on them looks very good for colleges.
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Engineering, Programming, Statistics, Finance, Science, ... Sure, you can do all sorts of things!
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Hey, if all US school reject you, try University of Watelroo, which is pretty good for Math/Eng. With coop, after graduation, you have a better chance of getting employed by a good company (such as Google, Microsoft, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, just to name a few) than any state school.
No jokes.
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Yeah, then there will be yet another tler at uw
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
If you want to build or design things (like structures, machines, robots, cars, etc.) when you're older, then try one of the Engineering fields.
If you want to write programs, try Software Engineering.
If you want to write programs or you're interested in computer algorithms, try Computer Science.
If you're into stuff like fluid mechanics, quantum physics, thermodynamics, cosmology, etc., try Physics or Mathematical Physics.
If you're into numbers and math alone, and not any physical application like programming, structure design, physics, etc., then try (Pure) Math.
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It really doesn't matter what you major in as long as you don't want to get into the hard sciences research or computer tech (and you probably don't want to anyway). Literally, you can major in just about anything if you're lib arts/business/econ, but its good to take a smart major combination that looks attractive for a variety of careers and jobs. Math/Econ double major is a great major that you can either go into hard mathematics or go into anything else you please (consulting, media, finance, sales, ibanking, law school, grad school, whatever).
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
University of Waterloo ftw!!! :D math rox
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Man, I'm exactly like the OP. I haven't taken any extracurricular activities and I'm on grade 11. Fucking sux. I just took a test to get into a fucking math competition and I didn't take it seriously, which wasn't my intention. We had 45 minutes to do 36 problems and I did like 15. I just hope I get all of them right. Shit, I need to join a fucking club fast. sorry if it sounds like i'm hijacking.
I'll give advice so that i won't get in trouble: I would go with Computer Science(one of my main choices), but I fear that you must have some previous programming skills before you get in it. Look up C++ or ASCII, they might help. Then again, I've never used them, so I dunno.
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