On December 02 2014 04:59 justanothertownie wrote:
How do you know if you aren't even trying?
How do you know if you aren't even trying?
am trying when I'm in thread I just know I'm lynched
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On December 02 2014 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2014 04:53 Damdred wrote: I'm defeated because no matter how much I try to do or say people say meh and switch back to me. Its insane bit oh well How do you know if you aren't even trying? am trying when I'm in thread I just know I'm lynched | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On December 02 2014 04:42 Holyflare wrote: i don't think i've ever seen him so wishy washy on reading a person to call him both town and a lynch he wants to go for You don't look for one specific thing when you meta. You look at the trend. What are the persons tendencies. And no, I'm not going to go back and look at that meta again. Proving things works both ways HF; you've said X, Y and Z about Obi. I just finished reading a bunch of pages about him. We disagree about a read; it won't be the first time and it won't be the last. Is my read strong enough that I'd stake my mafia career on it and never play again if I'm wrong? No (besides that would be against the rules). From what I recall, he's been wishy-washy before; I think I saw points of it in both his town and mafia play. I also know that generally what happens is that people forget about or drop good townreads they had early on. Marv had a decent townread on Obi early, Palmer did too. I don't remember where you were at on him. I just don't see a reason to lynch a guy because he said one super scummy scummy thing especially when half the fucking game has said something equally if not more scummy than him. | ||
justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On December 02 2014 05:03 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2014 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: On December 02 2014 04:53 Damdred wrote: I'm defeated because no matter how much I try to do or say people say meh and switch back to me. Its insane bit oh well How do you know if you aren't even trying? am trying when I'm in thread I just know I'm lynched We seem to understand the term "trying" in a very different way. If you keep resigning like this and then flip town I will be really disappointed with you. | ||
geript
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Damdred
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On December 02 2014 05:13 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2014 05:03 Damdred wrote: On December 02 2014 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: On December 02 2014 04:53 Damdred wrote: I'm defeated because no matter how much I try to do or say people say meh and switch back to me. Its insane bit oh well How do you know if you aren't even trying? am trying when I'm in thread I just know I'm lynched We seem to understand the term "trying" in a very different way. If you keep resigning like this and then flip town I will be really disappointed with you. I've given my thoughts sno is making things up and acting scummy but yea I'll flip town | ||
Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On December 02 2014 05:10 geript wrote: Palmer did too. Did I? | ||
Palmar
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On December 02 2014 05:18 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2014 05:13 justanothertownie wrote: On December 02 2014 05:03 Damdred wrote: On December 02 2014 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: On December 02 2014 04:53 Damdred wrote: I'm defeated because no matter how much I try to do or say people say meh and switch back to me. Its insane bit oh well How do you know if you aren't even trying? am trying when I'm in thread I just know I'm lynched We seem to understand the term "trying" in a very different way. If you keep resigning like this and then flip town I will be really disappointed with you. I've given my thoughts sno is making things up and acting scummy but yea I'll flip town Then give more thoughts. Give us a read on every player (yeah, you kinda did so) and compare their play to other games. Tel us why you are town and why we should not lynch you. Do anything. Getting mislynched is pretty awful and if you don't fight against it I will just assume that you are scum. | ||
justanothertownie
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On December 02 2014 05:10 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2014 04:42 Holyflare wrote: i don't think i've ever seen him so wishy washy on reading a person to call him both town and a lynch he wants to go for You don't look for one specific thing when you meta. You look at the trend. What are the persons tendencies. And no, I'm not going to go back and look at that meta again. Proving things works both ways HF; you've said X, Y and Z about Obi. I just finished reading a bunch of pages about him. We disagree about a read; it won't be the first time and it won't be the last. Is my read strong enough that I'd stake my mafia career on it and never play again if I'm wrong? No (besides that would be against the rules). From what I recall, he's been wishy-washy before; I think I saw points of it in both his town and mafia play. I also know that generally what happens is that people forget about or drop good townreads they had early on. Marv had a decent townread on Obi early, Palmer did too. I don't remember where you were at on him. I just don't see a reason to lynch a guy because he said one super scummy scummy thing especially when half the fucking game has said something equally if not more scummy than him. this whole paragraph is useless and poses nothing to the game when I just took the meta that you made for obi by reading his past games and applied it to this game you shouldn't be reading him anything other than mafia he has literally only been town read for the first like 2 hours of the game AND THEN AFK'D THE ENTIRE GAME, you're saying "oh these people town read him!" who gives a crap? how is that relevant? it's not ONE scummy thing at all, it's a multitude of scummy things culminating in one scummy pile you can't just say that you disagree without stating WHAT you disagree on On December 02 2014 04:44 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2014 02:49 geript wrote: HF, IDK about Obi's meta. The differences that I'm seeing from Obi's meta are: 1) As town he tends to give out more ideas 2) As town, he tends to play to have fun and enjoy himself which tends to level out later in the game; + townpoints 3) As town his vote tends to bounce around a bunch; + scumpoints 4) His post length is slightly more one-linery as town but that seems to change game to game I don't think there's a good meta reason to be voting him over Damdred. 1) he has given out absolutely no ideas this game 2) he doesn't look like he's enjoying himself at all, in fact quite the opposite, he's aggravated at legitimate points and then goes back to afk when under pressure to return and do nothing when the lynch is on damdred EVEN THOUGH HE SAID DAMDRED LOOKS MORE TOWNY NOW AND HE'D DEFEND HIM IF HE DID 3) hasn't happened this game 4) it's almost exclusively 1 liners as town, never have I really seen him go wall of text wishy washy reads like this game so it's not exactly a shit meta read, it's just you've applied it really badly to this game | ||
Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
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Damdred
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On December 02 2014 05:27 Palmar wrote: JAT you said there was still reasons to wagon me. Can you elaborate? Being useless and therefore unreadable. Basically a policy lynch. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On December 02 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2014 05:27 Palmar wrote: JAT you said there was still reasons to wagon me. Can you elaborate? Being useless and therefore unreadable. Basically a policy lynch. Do you think this is still valid? | ||
justanothertownie
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Holyflare
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On December 02 2014 05:33 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote: On December 02 2014 05:27 Palmar wrote: JAT you said there was still reasons to wagon me. Can you elaborate? Being useless and therefore unreadable. Basically a policy lynch. Do you think this is still valid? Pretty much, yeah. You had some decentish posts but nothing that wouldn't be easily doable as mafia. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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justanothertownie
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geript
10024 Posts
On December 02 2014 05:27 Holyflare wrote: this whole paragraph is useless and poses nothing to the game when I just took the meta that you made for obi by reading his past games and applied it to this game you shouldn't be reading him anything other than mafia he has literally only been town read for the first like 2 hours of the game AND THEN AFK'D THE ENTIRE GAME, you're saying "oh these people town read him!" who gives a crap? how is that relevant? it's not ONE scummy thing at all, it's a multitude of scummy things culminating in one scummy pile you can't just say that you disagree without stating WHAT you disagree on On December 02 2014 04:44 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2014 02:49 geript wrote: HF, IDK about Obi's meta. The differences that I'm seeing from Obi's meta are: 1) As town he tends to give out more ideas 2) As town, he tends to play to have fun and enjoy himself which tends to level out later in the game; + townpoints 3) As town his vote tends to bounce around a bunch; + scumpoints 4) His post length is slightly more one-linery as town but that seems to change game to game I don't think there's a good meta reason to be voting him over Damdred. 1) he has given out absolutely no ideas this game 2) he doesn't look like he's enjoying himself at all, in fact quite the opposite, he's aggravated at legitimate points and then goes back to afk when under pressure to return and do nothing when the lynch is on damdred EVEN THOUGH HE SAID DAMDRED LOOKS MORE TOWNY NOW AND HE'D DEFEND HIM IF HE DID 3) hasn't happened this game 4) it's almost exclusively 1 liners as town, never have I really seen him go wall of text wishy washy reads like this game so it's not exactly a shit meta read, it's just you've applied it really badly to this game 1. I don't wholly agree. However, he hasn't really been around that much. But he has made some early points which I saw was a tendency during his town play. You can count this as scum points for inactivity or whatever because it's less than usual perhaps, but I'm just calling it null because it's not quite his town play but it's not quite his mafia play either. 2. I disagree. Look at the various points he's had in this game. He literally starts out by having fun. "hello dickbutts, help help i'm being oppressed, Wooosh, 10/10 stay beautiful, etc." He enjoyed his early game. Then as the game went on, the playfulness and joke-to-reasonable/interesting-point ratio went up. That's indicative of his town game. 3. I agree. Thus why it was scum points. 4. No it's not exclusively 1 liners as town. There was at least 1 game where half or more of his posts were 3-5 lines minimum not counting quotes. | ||
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