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On October 30 2014 09:31 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2014 09:23 aseq wrote: Is there no DH (former) employee who can shed more light on the situation? Going by this interview it sounds like his father should never see his grandchildren again, but with all the employees siding with his dad, I think we should really know more about this before judging. I don't think Robert has children, no?
According to the article either him or his wife have 4 kids
"His wife is a student at the London School of Economics and he has four children to support."
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On October 30 2014 06:43 Oakenshield wrote: "Before I die I want to make a Dreamhack U.S."
-Robert Ohlen revealing a prophecy to Hotbid in their 2013 interview.
dun dun DUN
I doubt it means anything but the possibility of him working with MLG in the future against his former employer is pretty funny.
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On October 30 2014 09:35 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2014 09:31 Torte de Lini wrote:On October 30 2014 09:23 aseq wrote: Is there no DH (former) employee who can shed more light on the situation? Going by this interview it sounds like his father should never see his grandchildren again, but with all the employees siding with his dad, I think we should really know more about this before judging. I don't think Robert has children, no? According to the article either him or his wife have 4 kids "His wife is a student at the London School of Economics and he has four children to support."
Wowzers.
Coming from a family four, that shit's rough!
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On October 30 2014 09:50 Heyoka wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2014 06:43 Oakenshield wrote: "Before I die I want to make a Dreamhack U.S."
-Robert Ohlen revealing a prophecy to Hotbid in their 2013 interview. dun dun DUNhttps://twitter.com/MLGSundance/status/527578526963466240I doubt it means anything but the possibility of him working with MLG in the future against his former employer is pretty funny.
I'd be very surprised if this worked out for a variety of reasons.
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HomeStory is where its at people.
TakeTV ftw!!
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It's still hard to decipher what the hell really happened lol.
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I'm guessing dreamhack is worth millions, tens of millions, maybe more?
So his father better have some damn good reasons for withholding 50% of the shares, other than his opinion about his son. Maybe not legally, but morally he's basically stealing millions of dollars.
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On October 30 2014 11:04 igotmyown wrote: I'm guessing dreamhack is worth millions, tens of millions, maybe more?
So his father better have some damn good reasons for withholding 50% of the shares, other than his opinion about his son. Maybe not legally, but morally he's basically stealing millions of dollars. Well but you also have to see the other side. Where did he get the money to buy 50% of DH in the first place? If his dad gave him the money for it, it's not as much as stealing as is getting it back. Not saying this is what happened and that I agree with the movement either way, just a thought. My father got the money to buy his/my house from his father, and he just gave him the money no strings attached, but it's in his right to ask for the money back.
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It's hard to tell what will really happen to him now.
This kind of financial strain on a family can create conflict between a man and his wife.
But if conflict doesn't destroy their relationship, it will make it stronger.
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I really hope that Robert finds a way to stay in esports, as long as he can make enough to support his family. People like him and Carmac really help a tournament have a unique personality.
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So basically, Robert gave away all his shares and therefore his legal ownership of DH to his father for free. He calls it for "tactical, legal" reasons, but for all legal reasons, he lost DH right then and there regardless of his father's motivations in the future, with no leverage to hold nor collateral from his father, all because he had some "tacit understanding".
In any other (rest) business, this move is at best comical and at worst suicidal.
As much he insists that DH and his father fucked him over, it only happened because he fucked himself over first. And this is just only knowing his side of the story. Have to wonder his father's and DH's side of the story is.
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On October 30 2014 15:27 BirdKiller wrote: So basically, Robert gave away all his shares and therefore his legal ownership of DH to his father for free. He calls it for "tactical, legal" reasons, but for all legal reasons, he lost DH right then and there regardless of his father's motivations in the future, with no leverage to hold nor collateral from his father, all because he had some "tacit understanding".
In any other (rest) business, this move is at best comical and at worst suicidal.
As much he insists that DH and his father fucked him over, it only happened because he fucked himself over first. And this is just only knowing his side of the story. Have to wonder his father's and DH's side of the story is. If fucking youself equals trusting the guy that brought you into the world, then you're right. But only then.
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On October 30 2014 09:31 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2014 09:23 aseq wrote: Is there no DH (former) employee who can shed more light on the situation? Going by this interview it sounds like his father should never see his grandchildren again, but with all the employees siding with his dad, I think we should really know more about this before judging. I don't think Robert has children, no? 4 of them.
And a wife
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I find it funny how he says he relates to The Sopranos now more than ever. With Tony Soprano ? I would so like to hear the truth in this matter, but i'm guessing that will never happen.
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Not really interested in more drama TBH, just hope everything works out for the better.
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On October 30 2014 16:51 TheRidd wrote: I find it funny how he says he relates to The Sopranos now more than ever. With Tony Soprano ? I would so like to hear the truth in this matter, but i'm guessing that will never happen.
That's actually a sign that he might be losing it though. Honestly who do you trust. The guy who just lost everything and says he was screwed by everyone? Or the organization which doesn't want to lose face over something that's just business. If you worked for Dreamhack, do you trust a CEO who gives up all his power to protect anyone including yourself? No. Basically...one perspective is that Robert fucked himself. What is "tactical legal reasons"? What happened to lawyers? Why not transfer it to his wife? Nothing really makes sense yet but everyone wants to take sides.
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I'd be very reluctant to accept this account at face value since no one in it seems to be acting rationally. Giving away shares? Screwing over your own son without apparent reason?
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It's a preview to the Game of Thrones new season
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On October 30 2014 18:31 icystorage wrote: It's a preview to the Game of Thrones new season
I think there is more senseless violence here than in GoT... But hopefully less blood.
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There are too many logical leaps of faith and information holes in this story to place much credence in his account of the story. The crux of his tale lies in these declarations: a) Mr. Ohlen transfers the entirety of his holdings to his father... for reasons entirely undisclosed. b) His father refuses to return these shares to him... out of pure greed. c) The Dreamhack staff unilaterally withdraws their support of Mr. Ohlen... again, without reason.
I'm not condemning Mr. Ohlen by any means, but there is so much intentional withholding of vital details, and his telling is so one-sided and lacking in nuance, it's very difficult to attach a large amount of credibility to what he is saying. For most logical, rational people, accounts that are essentially extremely lopsided demonizations of another party should always ring some alarm bells.
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