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On October 24 2014 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
3. liancourt
5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
7. Elvis!
8. GlowingBear
13. raynpelikoneet
14. DrParnassus
Is this list still where you are at, HF?
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I think this pretty much debunks the entirety of your case though:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=31#601
That's storr's case from the last fantasy and it's pretty much a longer winded version of yours and lian was town in that game too and got scum read for very similar things (what are his real reads etc) so it kind of doesn't actually mean anything that he hasn't outright scum read someone (he poe'd in that game from other reads) it just doesn't make him scum for those particular reasons
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On October 24 2014 11:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:37 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 11:35 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 11:29 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:24 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:56 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:47 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:30 GlowingBear wrote:
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Storr was really serious when we both played mafia together. He also posted a lot less than he is posting now.
So you believe lian and storr are mafia together. Do you think mafia would bus for so long, specially considering this is still day1?
HF needs to step up, I'm also not liking his gameplay. On October 24 2014 10:40 GlowingBear wrote:
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I'm stilll at page 19. I don't think I'll be able to finish catching up today but anyway...
I want to call everyone in the game scum. Nobody has done anything quite townie yet. Which sucks.
But until now my strongest scumread is lian. Gonna make a case on him.
Damdy, would storr and lian bus themselves so early if they are both mafia? what the fuck is this, you've read half of the thread, don't know what on earth people are posting yet at all because you aren't caught up with 50% of the game and you are already making a super strong scum read + wanting to make a case on them and you're talking about people's play throughout the whole game? 20 pages of thread and yes, I have a scumread on lian. The strongest, but not strong. So you didn't had any reads at page 20? You think that it's impossible? I think it's entirely strange that the part I highlighted in red shows that you think that nobody has done anything towny at all yet and how it sucks but instead of checking if that's actually true and maybe re-evaluating that by actually reading the whole game and MAYBE changing your mind on your scum read on lian who you don't even know if he shits town rainbows since page 19 you decide to say that you're going to make a full blown case on him. Without reading the rest of the game. That's the strangest thing i've seen in a while. I was talking about the game until the page I was at. I'm sorry I had opinions on page 20 what use is a read up to page 20 when there's 20+ more pages to read and everything could have changed? It just screams of wanting to appear to contribute and get post count up because you're afraid of having an empty filter with no contributions There's a lot of content on 20 pages HF. I can give reads that nobody gave yet and it will also help you reading me. There's more content in 40 pages that would be more than enough to COMPLETELY change any read you have up on it's head, I don't even know why you're contesting this at all. You're literally working with 50% information and saying that it's better than 100%. If you had the same reads after you read all the game I wouldn't even be bringing this up but you're being stubborn on a point which is a no brainer. Ok HF, from the case I posted, what's different? I literally just explained it to you, he's baiting people for reactions and trying to get them to converse about him and made that list post about why he's playing a bit differently from last game where he was trying hard and got shot by the vig. He's disproved half your case. Like 50% of your case is that he's not playing how he explained but when does anyone ever trust self meta ever? Why does that make him mafia in the slightest, what stops it being someone disgruntled from being scum read why is it a mafia trait to be wrong about yourself!??!?! Like I said the only relevant part was that he hasn't posted his conclusions from reactions (I haven't even really checked if he actually has) but even then I've seen plenty of townies do the same thing and I actually even town read him for other things/not giving a crap about things sooo there's that too
Best way to play as town right? Acting scummy to get people talking and not actually contributing to the thread.
That's the thing, HF. He isn't bringing his conclusions regarding reactions. Any alignment can do that.
And if he is town, he is playing anti town because he is making us wasting our time talking about him.
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5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
7. Elvis!
8. GlowingBear
13. raynpelikoneet
Maybe remove you, MAYBE gb although not entirely sure yet have to do some reading, might have to add someone back to it in a bit
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"At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also.
Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null.
And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting.
We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread.
The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this.
Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles.
Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats.
I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing.
Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this."
This post is full of reads. Find me a single post like this from lian in this game.
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On October 24 2014 11:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:43 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:37 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 11:35 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 11:29 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:24 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:56 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:47 Holyflare wrote:
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what the fuck is this, you've read half of the thread, don't know what on earth people are posting yet at all because you aren't caught up with 50% of the game and you are already making a super strong scum read + wanting to make a case on them and you're talking about people's play throughout the whole game? 20 pages of thread and yes, I have a scumread on lian. The strongest, but not strong. So you didn't had any reads at page 20? You think that it's impossible? I think it's entirely strange that the part I highlighted in red shows that you think that nobody has done anything towny at all yet and how it sucks but instead of checking if that's actually true and maybe re-evaluating that by actually reading the whole game and MAYBE changing your mind on your scum read on lian who you don't even know if he shits town rainbows since page 19 you decide to say that you're going to make a full blown case on him. Without reading the rest of the game. That's the strangest thing i've seen in a while. I was talking about the game until the page I was at. I'm sorry I had opinions on page 20 what use is a read up to page 20 when there's 20+ more pages to read and everything could have changed? It just screams of wanting to appear to contribute and get post count up because you're afraid of having an empty filter with no contributions There's a lot of content on 20 pages HF. I can give reads that nobody gave yet and it will also help you reading me. There's more content in 40 pages that would be more than enough to COMPLETELY change any read you have up on it's head, I don't even know why you're contesting this at all. You're literally working with 50% information and saying that it's better than 100%. If you had the same reads after you read all the game I wouldn't even be bringing this up but you're being stubborn on a point which is a no brainer. Ok HF, from the case I posted, what's different? I literally just explained it to you, he's baiting people for reactions and trying to get them to converse about him and made that list post about why he's playing a bit differently from last game where he was trying hard and got shot by the vig. He's disproved half your case. Like 50% of your case is that he's not playing how he explained but when does anyone ever trust self meta ever? Why does that make him mafia in the slightest, what stops it being someone disgruntled from being scum read why is it a mafia trait to be wrong about yourself!??!?! Like I said the only relevant part was that he hasn't posted his conclusions from reactions (I haven't even really checked if he actually has) but even then I've seen plenty of townies do the same thing and I actually even town read him for other things/not giving a crap about things sooo there's that too Best way to play as town right? Acting scummy to get people talking and not actually contributing to the thread. That's the thing, HF. He isn't bringing his conclusions regarding reactions. Any alignment can do that.And if he is town, he is playing anti town because he is making us wasting our time talking about him.
If this is what you think then your whole case is actually a giant case on a null tell
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Now I'm really going to sleep.
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hf are you willing to lynch rayn on D1?
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On October 24 2014 11:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:54 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 11:43 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:37 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 11:35 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 11:29 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 11:24 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:56 GlowingBear wrote:
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20 pages of thread and yes, I have a scumread on lian. The strongest, but not strong.
So you didn't had any reads at page 20? You think that it's impossible? I think it's entirely strange that the part I highlighted in red shows that you think that nobody has done anything towny at all yet and how it sucks but instead of checking if that's actually true and maybe re-evaluating that by actually reading the whole game and MAYBE changing your mind on your scum read on lian who you don't even know if he shits town rainbows since page 19 you decide to say that you're going to make a full blown case on him. Without reading the rest of the game. That's the strangest thing i've seen in a while. I was talking about the game until the page I was at. I'm sorry I had opinions on page 20 what use is a read up to page 20 when there's 20+ more pages to read and everything could have changed? It just screams of wanting to appear to contribute and get post count up because you're afraid of having an empty filter with no contributions There's a lot of content on 20 pages HF. I can give reads that nobody gave yet and it will also help you reading me. There's more content in 40 pages that would be more than enough to COMPLETELY change any read you have up on it's head, I don't even know why you're contesting this at all. You're literally working with 50% information and saying that it's better than 100%. If you had the same reads after you read all the game I wouldn't even be bringing this up but you're being stubborn on a point which is a no brainer. Ok HF, from the case I posted, what's different? I literally just explained it to you, he's baiting people for reactions and trying to get them to converse about him and made that list post about why he's playing a bit differently from last game where he was trying hard and got shot by the vig. He's disproved half your case. Like 50% of your case is that he's not playing how he explained but when does anyone ever trust self meta ever? Why does that make him mafia in the slightest, what stops it being someone disgruntled from being scum read why is it a mafia trait to be wrong about yourself!??!?! Like I said the only relevant part was that he hasn't posted his conclusions from reactions (I haven't even really checked if he actually has) but even then I've seen plenty of townies do the same thing and I actually even town read him for other things/not giving a crap about things sooo there's that too Best way to play as town right? Acting scummy to get people talking and not actually contributing to the thread. That's the thing, HF. He isn't bringing his conclusions regarding reactions. Any alignment can do that.And if he is town, he is playing anti town because he is making us wasting our time talking about him. If this is what you think then your whole case is actually a giant case on a null tell
Bad phrasing. What I meant was that it is easy for scum to do that.
Any alignment could DO that, but I don't believe a town would do that.
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GB I don't even care what you think counts as attacking you, please read the thread before posting again.
HF thanks for the link to the other FFL. I'll do some digging there on lian when I get home from work.
I assume just because someone isn't on your list it doesn't necessarily mean you are calling them town but that is a pretty small list of mafia suspects, who is the strongest read there?
I am closing up/driving, be back in a bit.
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On October 23 2014 23:14 liancourt wrote:
you aren't your usual "serious storr".
I've seen you play in the last game and I read your game on the one before. You were totally serious throughout. It's funneh you're making light jokes now and trying to be useful to town. You're never trying to be useful to town. You go on your gut instinct and push with that. Now you're actually trying to think what would a townie do at this point. How would a townie react in this situation? You're acting like a townie, but not being yourself. taadaa~ voila!~
On October 23 2014 23:45 liancourt wrote:
if storr decided to branch off that squirmish with jat into a full fled tunnel war i'd think he'd be town. But he gave multiple scum reads and they were practically all omgus. Very unlike storr.
On October 23 2014 23:58 liancourt wrote:
hmm i'd have to converse with them directly to give a good read on them. Last time it didn't work out so well since I was forced to make reads when i didn't have a read on them at all.
I can tell you about jat seems pretty townie pushing things forward.
On October 24 2014 00:55 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 10:46 DrParnassus wrote:
hf i'm pretty sure one of us is mafia Based on hfs post analyzing my mafai post im inclined to see this guy as town also. And probably whoever made that mafai post lemme check. And hf for analyzing that post...didnt really think anyone would.
On October 24 2014 01:05 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 16:46 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2014 16:31 batsnacks wrote:Look at this: On October 23 2014 15:59 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2014 15:58 Holyflare wrote:
Yes but there's silly town reads based off nothing and then there's even more silly associative town reads based off of original nothing, you've managed to cross some weird line Nonetheless FITE me And decal fe ast U thro f irst push I know all about your hidden meanings and messages. I deciphered your code. You are taunting us by claiming mafia in this post by spelling out "mAfia" with the red letters. Are you surprised I found you out so easily? SSON Is scraping bottom of barrel Spells mafai Oh so it was slam and bats pretty townie they look jolly
much the same kind of reads as what you just quoted
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Like, HF, if we start doubting scumtells because town could have them, we will never lynch someone.
I strongly believe lian is mafia for what I've brought.
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well that's cool but I don't because I have a larger town read on him than you do a scum read
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On October 24 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
7. Elvis!
8. GlowingBear
13. raynpelikoneet
Maybe remove you, MAYBE gb although not entirely sure yet have to do some reading, might have to add someone back to it in a bit
that's exactly where I'm at except I still haven't decided about you yet. but for now GB and FF are off my watch list
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every response I throw out at you that disproves everything you call him scummy for showing you that he can do that as town you try and parry and still call him scum, it's pretty scummy
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On October 24 2014 12:04 DrParnassus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
7. Elvis!
8. GlowingBear
13. raynpelikoneet
Maybe remove you, MAYBE gb although not entirely sure yet have to do some reading, might have to add someone back to it in a bit that's exactly where I'm at except I still haven't decided about you yet. but for now GB and FF are off my watch list
well i'm just exceptionally lazy this game, I actually expected more people to call me out on it but nobody really has apart from like 1 person
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On October 24 2014 12:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 12:04 DrParnassus wrote:On October 24 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
7. Elvis!
8. GlowingBear
13. raynpelikoneet
Maybe remove you, MAYBE gb although not entirely sure yet have to do some reading, might have to add someone back to it in a bit that's exactly where I'm at except I still haven't decided about you yet. but for now GB and FF are off my watch list well i'm just exceptionally lazy this game, I actually expected more people to call me out on it but nobody really has apart from like 1 person
which totally proves that i'm town because mafia is too scared to even push me
or something like that
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On October 24 2014 12:02 DrParnassus wrote:
hf are you willing to lynch rayn on D1?
i'm willing to lynch people that look like mafia and could very well be mafia yes, nobody is really exempt
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So you would lynch yourself hf? hehe
I like aggro hf he actually does stuff which is cool.
GB is an actual bear I think, not a fake stuffed plushie or a man in a yetti costume.
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