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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 24 2014 03:13 GMT
#801
what games has gb been mafia in?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 24 2014 03:14 GMT
#802
Arnie got a gun and fanfic is all i know of hf.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 24 2014 03:19 GMT
#803
hf bud you should listen to me because im the bear whisperer.

GB is town, when hes that fake bear crap he always makes promises and barely does anything on them. Here he just straight out said he was goin to do it then a few posts later boom its in the thread.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 24 2014 03:23 GMT
#804
yeh read the other games and gb very very likely town
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 24 2014 03:26 GMT
#805
Glad we had that talk now I'm going to eat these noodles I just got and finish this bottle and sleep
Elvis!
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany396 Posts
October 24 2014 03:28 GMT
#806
So here's my position at this point in time, having read anything:
What the hell is going on with this game. I expected to come back to some pushes, people talking about minor scumslips, people OMGUS-ing each other, people teaming up, and mostly:
People making cases that are more than a couple of lines.
Like, seriously, noone has posted any big reads on anyone yet that they haven't taken back soon after.

On a related note, I don't really know who to go on myself.

This are the things that stuck out the most:

-lian asking a couple of times what people think is scummy in his posts. I think this might be a scum action, since I think his plan with this is to have people dive his filter and not find anything, making him look townie for them.
Note, that noone was forced into posting risky stuff at all as of yet, so not making slip-ups is pretty easy, so obviously people are not going to find scum slip-ups.
A townie wouldn't care that much about his reputation being clean and making people think he's not scum, but hunt scum instead.
Scum really wants people to "not find anything scummy and thus consider them townie".
Not posting obvious scum slip-ups doesn't give you any town points.

This makes me think he leans scum.


Fecalfeast kinda looks awfully similair to how he played my last game against him, where he was mafia and annihilated us.
For reasons why the obs called him scum early and why I feel he'S similair once more, read the obs QT, they knew a lot better than us townspeople:

Then, notice how he didn't wanna talk about his recent mafia win at first and tries to play it down to "him being bad, since he got caught day one". As a townie, why wouldn't you mention it when talking about it at first glance? Mafia has a big initiative to hide information about their previous scum games, he's trying to make it look like it's "not worth looking at his previous games".
He's really trying hard to hide himself from anything scum-related. Also looks similair to his last game, and as someone stated previously it's difficult to change styles quickly. Since he's not a crazily experienced player I wouldn't expect him to be so good at this to hide this very well.


GlowingBear and DrParnassus look a bit weird to me atm, not really townie, but I'll elaborate more on them at a later stance, since at the moment they don't look as scummy as ff and lain. They might just be weird townie, so I rate the null at the moment.

I don't care much about saying who my biggest townie etc. is since I'm not here to find the "Townie Idol" of teamliquid but rather to find scum.

So at the moment, ff and lain are the people I rate scummy the most and they'd go ok as buds.

Unsure about GlowingBear and DrParnassus, will go on them more if they make actions more scummy or if ff and lain go more in the null direction. Not focussing on them now.
Everyone else didn't have many interesting things to say, there's so many one-liners and tiny pushes that get erased 1 page later that are not worth interpreting at the moment.


Will see how active I can be tomorrow. I have a mate coming over for the weekend even though he said he's not coming for 2 weeks, so I don't know as of yet.

Also I don't get the fifa comparison is either terrible or I just don't get it. Seems quite complicated and weird to me.

other people turn around and laugh at you - if you say - that these are the best days - of their lives. - Blur
Elvis!
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany396 Posts
October 24 2014 03:30 GMT
#807
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/avN5b425C5Va
Here's last game's obs QT I was talking about.
other people turn around and laugh at you - if you say - that these are the best days - of their lives. - Blur
Elvis!
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany396 Posts
October 24 2014 03:31 GMT
#808
Also the scum's QT if people are interested in how ff thought last game. More info is better info!
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/aEkAM4Mae5U2z
other people turn around and laugh at you - if you say - that these are the best days - of their lives. - Blur
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 24 2014 03:34 GMT
#809
whose smurf are you?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 03:44 GMT
#810
On October 24 2014 10:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 10:15 IAmRobik wrote:
is anyone even trying to get anyone lynvhed this game?


Funny thing: you're also not trying.

Who do you want to lynch?

I'm not trying? F*** you
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 03:49 GMT
#811
On October 24 2014 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:
.: Brief case on lian

This post is horrible:

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2014 21:44 liancourt wrote:
does everything have to be about gathering information and scum motivation...really i'm just here to see what reactions you come up with. I'm no good at reading ppl indirectly so I have to converse with them. I don't know about you, but I have to be in the convo to read accurately I can't read what others have and say this and that. So I'm making convo. Do you know why reading indirectly isn't very good? It's because you don't know what alignment the 2 people are. For all we know it could be 2 scum talking to each other acting god knows how. At least if I'm in the convo I know what motivation I have so I can figure out the motivations of my conversationee by seeing their reactions. taadaa first long first


Reasons this post is bad: (i) of course most of day one must be about gathering information, and mafia game is about trying to understand mafia motivation. (ii) solely reactions won't help defining alignment as they can be faked or misinterpreted. (iii) doesn't matter if you don't know the alignment of people that are talking, you only have to read them and figure out who is mafia and why. (iv) knowing your motivation changes nothing regarding understanding other people's motivation.

But mostly, this is how he describes his gameplay. But this gameplay hasn't being like this.
Before this particular post, look at what he posted:

+ Show Spoiler [before bad post] +


On October 23 2014 17:54 liancourt wrote:
I loled at mafai

On October 23 2014 19:32 liancourt wrote:
slam mafai

On October 23 2014 19:54 liancourt wrote:
i'm totally mafai

On October 23 2014 19:58 liancourt wrote:
takes the bait nomnomnom

On October 23 2014 20:19 liancourt wrote:
hf typo'd slam for lian totally believable

On October 23 2014 20:15 liancourt wrote:
kelsier had a bg filter sure wasnt town lol



And this particular one:

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2014 20:27 liancourt wrote:
calling questions stupid hmmm i thought we were just making conversation. I don't like you. bye


It doesn't seem like he is really interested in getting into conversation. He's mostly posting random and stupid things out of the blue. Then, regarding JAT pointing out stupid questions, he just says "bye bye", instead of tryingt to stick to the conversation.

So, he has 5 pages filter of bad 1 liners. Thread has 38 pages.
Who is scum in his view? Nobody knows.
What does he get from people's reaction? Nobody knows.


tl;dr = lian says he need to get into conversation to evaluate reactions, but he is not putting effort into getting into conversations and he is not giving reads on people's reaction. Just posting a lot of random jokes.
He is not interested in solving the game. Therefore, mafia.

Thanks for the long post rehashing my case on liam. Can you go to sleep and never come back. Thanks
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 03:52 GMT
#812
Controversial read of the game:
GB is town


+ Show Spoiler +
Based solely on the fact that he gave himself 3-4 outs to go to sleep and he continued to converse with people even though he coulda just peaced out
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 03:54 GMT
#813
On October 24 2014 12:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Controversial read of the game:
GB is town


+ Show Spoiler +
Based solely on the fact that he gave himself 3-4 outs to go to sleep and he continued to converse with people even though he coulda just peaced out

Just caught up the top of this page...apparently the read isn't that controversial lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 24 2014 03:57 GMT
#814
twat
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 04:04 GMT
#815
On October 24 2014 12:57 Holyflare wrote:
twat

i know you are but what am i
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 04:09 GMT
#816
I'm feeling a policy lynch unless elvis reveals himself. I've actually lost a game that I could have won if I'd have known the identity of a smurf who ended up being mafia.

hf you know this
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 24 2014 04:11 GMT
#817
5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
13. raynpelikoneet


very tempted to add kush back on there because he came back and did absolutely nothing but reply to something irrelevant even if i did like his initial entry but i wouldn't say that's super hard to do as either alignment, at a stretch I'd add thrawn back for not being very conversational at all whatsoever and just having reads (even if they are super similar) and that's about it, his reasons for his reads were very straightforward and not very critical thinkingish... lian... i dunno i'm just not feeling him being mafia i dunno, damd has to post more for me to solidify some things

##vote batsnacks for best push today


case


super defends lian and doesn't really have any scum reads
calls out posts as super towny, towniest post etc when they aren't particularly
has a weird "push" on ff but it's not even a push or any pressure and based on super strong town read on lian which i don't think any sensible person would have at this point in time
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
October 24 2014 04:12 GMT
#818
wow i'm dumb nvm my last post
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 24 2014 04:13 GMT
#819
On October 24 2014 13:09 DrParnassus wrote:
I'm feeling a policy lynch unless elvis reveals himself. I've actually lost a game that I could have won if I'd have known the identity of a smurf who ended up being mafia.

hf you know this


his account is super old and has no posts but he played in a newbie.... don't really get it
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 24 2014 04:15 GMT
#820
On October 24 2014 12:28 Elvis! wrote:
So here's my position at this point in time, having read anything:
What the hell is going on with this game. I expected to come back to some pushes, people talking about minor scumslips, people OMGUS-ing each other, people teaming up, and mostly:
People making cases that are more than a couple of lines.
Like, seriously, noone has posted any big reads on anyone yet that they haven't taken back soon after.

On a related note, I don't really know who to go on myself.

This are the things that stuck out the most:

-lian asking a couple of times what people think is scummy in his posts. I think this might be a scum action, since I think his plan with this is to have people dive his filter and not find anything, making him look townie for them.
Note, that noone was forced into posting risky stuff at all as of yet, so not making slip-ups is pretty easy, so obviously people are not going to find scum slip-ups.
A townie wouldn't care that much about his reputation being clean and making people think he's not scum, but hunt scum instead.
Scum really wants people to "not find anything scummy and thus consider them townie".
Not posting obvious scum slip-ups doesn't give you any town points.

This makes me think he leans scum.


Fecalfeast kinda looks awfully similair to how he played my last game against him, where he was mafia and annihilated us.
For reasons why the obs called him scum early and why I feel he'S similair once more, read the obs QT, they knew a lot better than us townspeople:

Then, notice how he didn't wanna talk about his recent mafia win at first and tries to play it down to "him being bad, since he got caught day one". As a townie, why wouldn't you mention it when talking about it at first glance? Mafia has a big initiative to hide information about their previous scum games, he's trying to make it look like it's "not worth looking at his previous games".
He's really trying hard to hide himself from anything scum-related. Also looks similair to his last game, and as someone stated previously it's difficult to change styles quickly. Since he's not a crazily experienced player I wouldn't expect him to be so good at this to hide this very well.


GlowingBear and DrParnassus look a bit weird to me atm, not really townie, but I'll elaborate more on them at a later stance, since at the moment they don't look as scummy as ff and lain. They might just be weird townie, so I rate the null at the moment.

I don't care much about saying who my biggest townie etc. is since I'm not here to find the "Townie Idol" of teamliquid but rather to find scum.

So at the moment, ff and lain are the people I rate scummy the most and they'd go ok as buds.

Unsure about GlowingBear and DrParnassus, will go on them more if they make actions more scummy or if ff and lain go more in the null direction. Not focussing on them now.
Everyone else didn't have many interesting things to say, there's so many one-liners and tiny pushes that get erased 1 page later that are not worth interpreting at the moment.


Will see how active I can be tomorrow. I have a mate coming over for the weekend even though he said he's not coming for 2 weeks, so I don't know as of yet.

Also I don't get the fifa comparison is either terrible or I just don't get it. Seems quite complicated and weird to me.



Hey welcome to the thread 2 questions:
1. jat and storrzerg had a large argument somewhat early today yet you say nobody other than those mentioned in your post said anything you noticed. Have you read the entire thread or just filters?
2. You say liancourt and i make a good scumteam yet i am voting for lian at this point. Am I bussing liancourt, then?
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