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On October 24 2014 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 23:48 IAmRobik wrote:My pg 15 conclusions is that storr/jat are two town fighting, but what do I knowOn October 23 2014 22:35 kushm4sta wrote:Getript has kindly made me town  Top tier entrance. prolly town On October 23 2014 22:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Giving out townreads is just as important than giving out scumreads.
It helps people to figure out your alignment and reduces the chance of mislynchable ppl in case your read is correct. Town rayn doesn't believe this for a second. vote: raynAlso, he shouldn't be clearing kush for promising to play. He should be clearing kush for saying "kindly made me town" Kush's Storr read is awesome. I think I concur. Also, now that I'm reading the fecal read, I feel like Fecal's statement of "i think i remember you" feels forced. I'm pretty sure that he remembers exactly who I am since we were both hard-town reading each other in the one game that we played together and I was one of the people who sang his praises highly after that shitty shitty BH game. Fecal doesn't seem as active/motivated/happy/genuine this game. reading lian's posts makes me want to vom...dude is annoying the shit out of me with his incessant troll posts. Wouldn't mind someone shooting himI think I'm all caught up now. Lynch Robik. Immediately.
Excuse stupidfeast but you are talking about how sarcastic "but what do I know" sounds to you and that he probably DOES know that they are both town?
Or no?
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On October 24 2014 10:45 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:On October 23 2014 23:48 IAmRobik wrote:My pg 15 conclusions is that storr/jat are two town fighting, but what do I knowOn October 23 2014 22:35 kushm4sta wrote:Getript has kindly made me town Top tier entrance. prolly town On October 23 2014 22:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Giving out townreads is just as important than giving out scumreads.
It helps people to figure out your alignment and reduces the chance of mislynchable ppl in case your read is correct. Town rayn doesn't believe this for a second. vote: raynAlso, he shouldn't be clearing kush for promising to play. He should be clearing kush for saying "kindly made me town" Kush's Storr read is awesome. I think I concur. Also, now that I'm reading the fecal read, I feel like Fecal's statement of "i think i remember you" feels forced. I'm pretty sure that he remembers exactly who I am since we were both hard-town reading each other in the one game that we played together and I was one of the people who sang his praises highly after that shitty shitty BH game. Fecal doesn't seem as active/motivated/happy/genuine this game. reading lian's posts makes me want to vom...dude is annoying the shit out of me with his incessant troll posts. Wouldn't mind someone shooting himI think I'm all caught up now. Lynch Robik. Immediately. Excuse stupidfeast but you are talking about how sarcastic "but what do I know" sounds to you and that he probably DOES know that they are both town? Or no?
Nop.
Town Robik never doubts himself. That's all.
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On October 24 2014 10:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot drparnassus was in this game.
Are you still thinking robik is scum?
Any other reads?
dunno what you mean
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On October 24 2014 10:30 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 10:25 Damdred wrote:On October 24 2014 10:05 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:00 Damdred wrote:On October 24 2014 09:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdred, who's scum? Very possible could be store, Lian and hf... wait bear you no whisper in my ear I whisper you, I'm the bear whiserer. Reasons behind it? Bear, I think these are great reasons that these guys aren't the beautiful town they are pretending to be. look at storrs filter man, compare it to the other games he played in.Hes a serious person in every game, but everything is coming off so fake this game his fights seem fake. His pressure feels fake, everything about him seems fake. Hes also obtuse and he filled up the thread with a fight over nothing to get town disorganized at the start. Lian hasn't posted a lot of really insightful posts this game either. Last game I scum read him for refusing to do things, so my hesitation...actually screw that. Hes wishy washy a lot of his filter is fluff, he tried to get ff into a rage and has seemed to avoid things and takes soft stances i might of mentioned that already. hf gives some unsubstantiated reads, and his list of people he wants to lynch is mostly lazy people or lurkers. Could be mafia in their but just doesn't seem like a townhf thing to do. Storr was really serious when we both played mafia together. He also posted a lot less than he is posting now. So you believe lian and storr are mafia together. Do you think mafia would bus for so long, specially considering this is still day1? HF needs to step up, I'm also not liking his gameplay.
On October 24 2014 10:40 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
I know what you are doing here bear bear but i'll go along until i finish this drink.
People can change their playstyle to fit their needs.
The possibility is their, its probably a low possibility i have no idea how lian plays scum. But they seem a bit ok instead of just pushing each other they seem to be at peace so not seeing much bus after initial.
Bear, tell me your scum reads or are you still catching up I'm stilll at page 19. I don't think I'll be able to finish catching up today but anyway...
I want to call everyone in the game scum. Nobody has done anything quite townie yet. Which sucks.
But until now my strongest scumread is lian. Gonna make a case on him.Damdy, would storr and lian bus themselves so early if they are both mafia?
what the fuck is this, you've read half of the thread, don't know what on earth people are posting yet at all because you aren't caught up with 50% of the game and you are already making a super strong scum read + wanting to make a case on them and you're talking about people's play throughout the whole game?
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Whoops, I read your post calling him arrogant but didn't see him at the end of your list.
Withdrawn.
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DrParnassus, to ask a question that makes sense, have any of your reads from your list changed significantly?
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Wait GB you just said you were going to make a case on lian then you quote 1 post from robik and because he was unsure in one sentence, voted him.
Were you really going to make a case on lian?
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On October 24 2014 10:47 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 10:30 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:25 Damdred wrote:On October 24 2014 10:05 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:00 Damdred wrote:On October 24 2014 09:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdred, who's scum? Very possible could be store, Lian and hf... wait bear you no whisper in my ear I whisper you, I'm the bear whiserer. Reasons behind it? Bear, I think these are great reasons that these guys aren't the beautiful town they are pretending to be. look at storrs filter man, compare it to the other games he played in.Hes a serious person in every game, but everything is coming off so fake this game his fights seem fake. His pressure feels fake, everything about him seems fake. Hes also obtuse and he filled up the thread with a fight over nothing to get town disorganized at the start. Lian hasn't posted a lot of really insightful posts this game either. Last game I scum read him for refusing to do things, so my hesitation...actually screw that. Hes wishy washy a lot of his filter is fluff, he tried to get ff into a rage and has seemed to avoid things and takes soft stances i might of mentioned that already. hf gives some unsubstantiated reads, and his list of people he wants to lynch is mostly lazy people or lurkers. Could be mafia in their but just doesn't seem like a townhf thing to do. Storr was really serious when we both played mafia together. He also posted a lot less than he is posting now. So you believe lian and storr are mafia together. Do you think mafia would bus for so long, specially considering this is still day1? HF needs to step up, I'm also not liking his gameplay. Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 10:40 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
I know what you are doing here bear bear but i'll go along until i finish this drink.
People can change their playstyle to fit their needs.
The possibility is their, its probably a low possibility i have no idea how lian plays scum. But they seem a bit ok instead of just pushing each other they seem to be at peace so not seeing much bus after initial.
Bear, tell me your scum reads or are you still catching up I'm stilll at page 19. I don't think I'll be able to finish catching up today but anyway...
I want to call everyone in the game scum. Nobody has done anything quite townie yet. Which sucks.
But until now my strongest scumread is lian. Gonna make a case on him.Damdy, would storr and lian bus themselves so early if they are both mafia? what the fuck is this, you've read half of the thread, don't know what on earth people are posting yet at all because you aren't caught up with 50% of the game and you are already making a super strong scum read + wanting to make a case on them and you're talking about people's play throughout the whole game?
20 pages of thread and yes, I have a scumread on lian. The strongest, but not strong.
So you didn't had any reads at page 20? You think that it's impossible?
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On October 24 2014 10:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wait GB you just said you were going to make a case on lian then you quote 1 post from robik and because he was unsure in one sentence, voted him.
Were you really going to make a case on lian?
Yes.
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On October 24 2014 10:56 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 10:47 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:30 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:25 Damdred wrote:On October 24 2014 10:05 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:00 Damdred wrote:On October 24 2014 09:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdred, who's scum? Very possible could be store, Lian and hf... wait bear you no whisper in my ear I whisper you, I'm the bear whiserer. Reasons behind it? Bear, I think these are great reasons that these guys aren't the beautiful town they are pretending to be. look at storrs filter man, compare it to the other games he played in.Hes a serious person in every game, but everything is coming off so fake this game his fights seem fake. His pressure feels fake, everything about him seems fake. Hes also obtuse and he filled up the thread with a fight over nothing to get town disorganized at the start. Lian hasn't posted a lot of really insightful posts this game either. Last game I scum read him for refusing to do things, so my hesitation...actually screw that. Hes wishy washy a lot of his filter is fluff, he tried to get ff into a rage and has seemed to avoid things and takes soft stances i might of mentioned that already. hf gives some unsubstantiated reads, and his list of people he wants to lynch is mostly lazy people or lurkers. Could be mafia in their but just doesn't seem like a townhf thing to do. Storr was really serious when we both played mafia together. He also posted a lot less than he is posting now. So you believe lian and storr are mafia together. Do you think mafia would bus for so long, specially considering this is still day1? HF needs to step up, I'm also not liking his gameplay. On October 24 2014 10:40 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
I know what you are doing here bear bear but i'll go along until i finish this drink.
People can change their playstyle to fit their needs.
The possibility is their, its probably a low possibility i have no idea how lian plays scum. But they seem a bit ok instead of just pushing each other they seem to be at peace so not seeing much bus after initial.
Bear, tell me your scum reads or are you still catching up I'm stilll at page 19. I don't think I'll be able to finish catching up today but anyway...
I want to call everyone in the game scum. Nobody has done anything quite townie yet. Which sucks.
But until now my strongest scumread is lian. Gonna make a case on him.Damdy, would storr and lian bus themselves so early if they are both mafia? what the fuck is this, you've read half of the thread, don't know what on earth people are posting yet at all because you aren't caught up with 50% of the game and you are already making a super strong scum read + wanting to make a case on them and you're talking about people's play throughout the whole game? 20 pages of thread and yes, I have a scumread on lian. The strongest, but not strong. So you didn't had any reads at page 20? You think that it's impossible?
On October 24 2014 10:44 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Robik
Explain
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I'm actually doing it now because I'm tired, gonna sleep soon and I'm not thinking really great right now.
But I had this read on lian since I skimmed his filter. I just wanted to read his posts in context and I still don't like it.
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On October 24 2014 10:56 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 10:47 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:30 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:25 Damdred wrote:On October 24 2014 10:05 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:00 Damdred wrote:On October 24 2014 09:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdred, who's scum? Very possible could be store, Lian and hf... wait bear you no whisper in my ear I whisper you, I'm the bear whiserer. Reasons behind it? Bear, I think these are great reasons that these guys aren't the beautiful town they are pretending to be. look at storrs filter man, compare it to the other games he played in.Hes a serious person in every game, but everything is coming off so fake this game his fights seem fake. His pressure feels fake, everything about him seems fake. Hes also obtuse and he filled up the thread with a fight over nothing to get town disorganized at the start. Lian hasn't posted a lot of really insightful posts this game either. Last game I scum read him for refusing to do things, so my hesitation...actually screw that. Hes wishy washy a lot of his filter is fluff, he tried to get ff into a rage and has seemed to avoid things and takes soft stances i might of mentioned that already. hf gives some unsubstantiated reads, and his list of people he wants to lynch is mostly lazy people or lurkers. Could be mafia in their but just doesn't seem like a townhf thing to do. Storr was really serious when we both played mafia together. He also posted a lot less than he is posting now. So you believe lian and storr are mafia together. Do you think mafia would bus for so long, specially considering this is still day1? HF needs to step up, I'm also not liking his gameplay. On October 24 2014 10:40 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
I know what you are doing here bear bear but i'll go along until i finish this drink.
People can change their playstyle to fit their needs.
The possibility is their, its probably a low possibility i have no idea how lian plays scum. But they seem a bit ok instead of just pushing each other they seem to be at peace so not seeing much bus after initial.
Bear, tell me your scum reads or are you still catching up I'm stilll at page 19. I don't think I'll be able to finish catching up today but anyway...
I want to call everyone in the game scum. Nobody has done anything quite townie yet. Which sucks.
But until now my strongest scumread is lian. Gonna make a case on him.Damdy, would storr and lian bus themselves so early if they are both mafia? what the fuck is this, you've read half of the thread, don't know what on earth people are posting yet at all because you aren't caught up with 50% of the game and you are already making a super strong scum read + wanting to make a case on them and you're talking about people's play throughout the whole game? 20 pages of thread and yes, I have a scumread on lian. The strongest, but not strong. So you didn't had any reads at page 20? You think that it's impossible?
I think it's entirely strange that the part I highlighted in red shows that you think that nobody has done anything towny at all yet and how it sucks but instead of checking if that's actually true and maybe re-evaluating that by actually reading the whole game and MAYBE changing your mind on your scum read on lian who you don't even know if he shits town rainbows since page 19 you decide to say that you're going to make a full blown case on him. Without reading the rest of the game. That's the strangest thing i've seen in a while.
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On October 24 2014 10:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
DrParnassus, to ask a question that makes sense, have any of your reads from your list changed significantly?
You're off the list, but that's all. There's a few specific things I'm waiting for before I start pushing a case.
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batsnacks is staying on my list of mafia suspects for his only contribution being defences of why someone is towny (lian) and not why others are mafia
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.: Brief case on lian
This post is horrible:
On October 23 2014 21:44 liancourt wrote:
does everything have to be about gathering information and scum motivation...really i'm just here to see what reactions you come up with. I'm no good at reading ppl indirectly so I have to converse with them. I don't know about you, but I have to be in the convo to read accurately I can't read what others have and say this and that. So I'm making convo. Do you know why reading indirectly isn't very good? It's because you don't know what alignment the 2 people are. For all we know it could be 2 scum talking to each other acting god knows how. At least if I'm in the convo I know what motivation I have so I can figure out the motivations of my conversationee by seeing their reactions. taadaa first long first
Reasons this post is bad: (i) of course most of day one must be about gathering information, and mafia game is about trying to understand mafia motivation. (ii) solely reactions won't help defining alignment as they can be faked or misinterpreted. (iii) doesn't matter if you don't know the alignment of people that are talking, you only have to read them and figure out who is mafia and why. (iv) knowing your motivation changes nothing regarding understanding other people's motivation.
But mostly, this is how he describes his gameplay. But this gameplay hasn't being like this.
Before this particular post, look at what he posted:
+ Show Spoiler [before bad post] +On October 23 2014 17:54 liancourt wrote:
I loled at mafai On October 23 2014 19:32 liancourt wrote:
slam mafai On October 23 2014 19:54 liancourt wrote:
i'm totally mafai On October 23 2014 19:58 liancourt wrote:
takes the bait nomnomnom On October 23 2014 20:19 liancourt wrote:
hf typo'd slam for lian totally believable On October 23 2014 20:15 liancourt wrote:
kelsier had a bg filter sure wasnt town lol
And this particular one:
On October 23 2014 20:27 liancourt wrote:calling questions stupid hmmm i thought we were just making conversation. I don't like you. bye 
It doesn't seem like he is really interested in getting into conversation. He's mostly posting random and stupid things out of the blue. Then, regarding JAT pointing out stupid questions, he just says "bye bye", instead of tryingt to stick to the conversation.
So, he has 5 pages filter of bad 1 liners. Thread has 38 pages.
Who is scum in his view? Nobody knows.
What does he get from people's reaction? Nobody knows.
tl;dr = lian says he need to get into conversation to evaluate reactions, but he is not putting effort into getting into conversations and he is not giving reads on people's reaction. Just posting a lot of random jokes.
He is not interested in solving the game. Therefore, mafia.
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Hey GB, buddy, I know I was a big reason why you lost that italian dressing game and all but do you think you could humour me for one second?
On October 24 2014 10:44 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Robik
Why is this your vote when your biggest scumread and the subject of your case are not named robik?
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On October 24 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 10:56 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:47 Holyflare wrote:On October 24 2014 10:30 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:25 Damdred wrote:On October 24 2014 10:05 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:00 Damdred wrote:On October 24 2014 09:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdred, who's scum? Very possible could be store, Lian and hf... wait bear you no whisper in my ear I whisper you, I'm the bear whiserer. Reasons behind it? Bear, I think these are great reasons that these guys aren't the beautiful town they are pretending to be. look at storrs filter man, compare it to the other games he played in.Hes a serious person in every game, but everything is coming off so fake this game his fights seem fake. His pressure feels fake, everything about him seems fake. Hes also obtuse and he filled up the thread with a fight over nothing to get town disorganized at the start. Lian hasn't posted a lot of really insightful posts this game either. Last game I scum read him for refusing to do things, so my hesitation...actually screw that. Hes wishy washy a lot of his filter is fluff, he tried to get ff into a rage and has seemed to avoid things and takes soft stances i might of mentioned that already. hf gives some unsubstantiated reads, and his list of people he wants to lynch is mostly lazy people or lurkers. Could be mafia in their but just doesn't seem like a townhf thing to do. Storr was really serious when we both played mafia together. He also posted a lot less than he is posting now. So you believe lian and storr are mafia together. Do you think mafia would bus for so long, specially considering this is still day1? HF needs to step up, I'm also not liking his gameplay. On October 24 2014 10:40 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
I know what you are doing here bear bear but i'll go along until i finish this drink.
People can change their playstyle to fit their needs.
The possibility is their, its probably a low possibility i have no idea how lian plays scum. But they seem a bit ok instead of just pushing each other they seem to be at peace so not seeing much bus after initial.
Bear, tell me your scum reads or are you still catching up I'm stilll at page 19. I don't think I'll be able to finish catching up today but anyway...
I want to call everyone in the game scum. Nobody has done anything quite townie yet. Which sucks.
But until now my strongest scumread is lian. Gonna make a case on him.Damdy, would storr and lian bus themselves so early if they are both mafia? what the fuck is this, you've read half of the thread, don't know what on earth people are posting yet at all because you aren't caught up with 50% of the game and you are already making a super strong scum read + wanting to make a case on them and you're talking about people's play throughout the whole game? 20 pages of thread and yes, I have a scumread on lian. The strongest, but not strong. So you didn't had any reads at page 20? You think that it's impossible? I think it's entirely strange that the part I highlighted in red shows that you think that nobody has done anything towny at all yet and how it sucks but instead of checking if that's actually true and maybe re-evaluating that by actually reading the whole game and MAYBE changing your mind on your scum read on lian who you don't even know if he shits town rainbows since page 19 you decide to say that you're going to make a full blown case on him. Without reading the rest of the game. That's the strangest thing i've seen in a while.
I was talking about the game until the page I was at.
I'm sorry I had opinions on page 20
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i don't like your case because that is how he is playing, he made a large 1-8 point post that baited out reactions from people and asked people questions regarding what he's posted (i.e. my satirical town read of him and his motivation questioning for his point post) so was in fact getting into those conversations with people, the only relevant part is that he doesn't look interested in solving the game because he hasn't posted conclusions (just basic reads)
I don't think anything you wrote makes him mafia though
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On October 24 2014 11:24 Fecalfeast wrote:Hey GB, buddy, I know I was a big reason why you lost that italian dressing game and all but do you think you could humour me for one second? Why is this your vote when your biggest scumread and the subject of your case are not named robik?
I was trying to gauge reactions but meh... Failed horribly.
I was hoping that town Robik would come to the thread and shit on me. He didn't :/
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On October 24 2014 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 11:24 Fecalfeast wrote:Hey GB, buddy, I know I was a big reason why you lost that italian dressing game and all but do you think you could humour me for one second? On October 24 2014 10:44 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Robik Why is this your vote when your biggest scumread and the subject of your case are not named robik? I was trying to gauge reactions but meh... Failed horribly. I was hoping that town Robik would come to the thread and shit on me. He didn't :/
hmmmmmm...
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