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+ Show Spoiler + On October 13 2014 16:37 loafery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 16:26 abuse wrote:On October 13 2014 16:10 loafery wrote: why would anyone say they were roleblocked? They'd be giving their role away and mafia would kill them instantly
Your logic that no one claimed they were roleblocked = there has to be tracker is flawed.
You know there is a tracker because you guys don't have a mafia roleblocker and you 2 are just normal mafia goons. even if you are a vanilla townie, you still get notified if you get roleblocked. your logic is flawed. also you are scum. don't patronize me and other players by making up this rule. My claim that bresh and abuse is scum are even more strenghtened by the fact that you 2 have a united front about this roleblocking business. Don't know how you 2 can agree on this roleblocking issue when it's blatantly clear that you don't get notified when you get rolevlocked. I have never in my life heard of anyone being notified. You're meant to deduce whether or not you were. -------------------> + Show Spoiler +On October 13 2014 19:14 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 16:27 Fecalfeast wrote: DO YOU GET A NOTIFICATION WHEN YOU ARE ROLEBLOCKED? Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 16:42 abuse wrote: Mod, please confirm that vanilla townies get PM'ed saying they get roleblocked when they do. Also, can I show a screenshot of a PM from Amiko in the previous newbie game to prove this?
Yes. Both special roles and VTs get notified of roleblocks.
You can post screenshot of a PM from a previous game if you make sure there's nothing pertinent to current game visible in it, but it should not be necessary with a mod confirmation of the facts. + + Show Spoiler +On October 13 2014 16:41 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 16:37 loafery wrote:On October 13 2014 16:26 abuse wrote:On October 13 2014 16:10 loafery wrote: why would anyone say they were roleblocked? They'd be giving their role away and mafia would kill them instantly
Your logic that no one claimed they were roleblocked = there has to be tracker is flawed.
You know there is a tracker because you guys don't have a mafia roleblocker and you 2 are just normal mafia goons. even if you are a vanilla townie, you still get notified if you get roleblocked. your logic is flawed. also you are scum. don't patronize me and other players by making up this rule. My claim that bresh and abuse is scum are even more strenghtened by the fact that you 2 have a united front about this roleblocking business. Don't know how you 2 can agree on this roleblocking issue when it's blatantly clear that you don't get notified when you get rolevlocked. I have never in my life heard of anyone being notified. You're meant to deduce whether or not you were. Nope its because the game in which abuse says he was roleblocked as VT i was also in it and can vouch for what he says until the mod confirms it. Seriously feel free to go back and look at it it was the last newbie game before this one. ------------------ + Show Spoiler +On October 13 2014 16:55 loafery wrote: I don't like how you and abuse think there is a definite tracker and I don't know what you want with these hypo claims of tracking, to me they're useless. It's just hypothesis. What are we meant to achieve from this?
I don't like how abuse changed his vote last second which was the deciding vote in lynching elvis when he yea could have voted for you when he even wrote that case against you. To me it was just a pretend case because both of you are scum. And then abuse pretends to be indecisive at the end voting for bresh first then finally settling on elvis who eventually got lynched and was town.
It's no surprise on d1 when you 2 pretend to defend zen in words but come upwith an excuse to vote for him anyway. All you 2 have been doing is making fake cases then eventually following superbia's votes and making him look bad because you guys knew he was the vet and you guys wanted to lynch him.
But something happened at night and superbia claimed vet so you had to kill him at night. Or else you could have kept him alive and either lynched him or claimed vet and tracker yourselves and have a 50/50. You guys know there is a tracker and you guys are so sure of it because you guys don't have a roleblocker between you and only have 2 goons. --------------> + Show Spoiler +On October 13 2014 17:02 abuse wrote: Why are you just copying your post again?
paragraph 1: it has already been explained by me, that there is less than 1% of a JK being in the game, and I have also said why.
paragraph 2: I voted explained explicitly why I voted for elvis, and you are a disgusting hypocrite for even daring to say stuff like this considering you were not at EoD to vote for anyone. (Hell, you had 48 hours to place down a vote)
paragraph 3: Blatant lies, I never defended Zen.
paragraph 4 : I just love this. "but something happened at night". You don't even know what happened, yet you are so sure of this and pushing it so hard. also why on earth would I want to kill superbia considering he read me as town the entire game.
your case is a joke, and I don't think we should address it anymore until the mod answers the roleblocker question, to prove to everyone else here, who for I don't even know what valid reasons are not voting for you right now, because you are the most blatant scum right now I have seen in any game so far.
Time to lynch scum boys.
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Vote count:
loafery (2): Fecalfeast, abuse Breshke (1): loafery
Not voting (2): Rad, Breshke
Currently, loafery is set to be lynched. Deadline is Tuesday, Oct 14 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory!
If there are errors, please let us know.
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: Fecalfeast voted loafery ( post) VOTE: loafery voted breshke (Breshke) ( post) VOTE: abuse voted loafery ( post)
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Rad ff vote breshke
breshke and abuse arent going to change their votes because they know i know they are scum.
If u want a day 4 vote breshke. Those two are only concerned about lynching only me when they should be thonking about the second mafia. If I die town loses the game.
I sometimes hate mafia when you have to convince other players i guess thats part of ur skill but they are scum just read my initial post claiming them scum. Mafia are in a better position right now. If one townie votes wrong 2 scum can just bandwagon that vote at the end so plz vote bresh if ur town. We cant have split votes today.
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On October 13 2014 20:22 loafery wrote: Rad ff vote breshke
breshke and abuse arent going to change their votes because they know i know they are scum.
If u want a day 4 vote breshke. Those two are only concerned about lynching only me when they should be thinking about the second mafia. If I die town loses the game.
I sometimes hate mafia when you have to convince other players i guess thats part of ur skill but they are scum just read my initial post claiming them scum. Mafia are in a better position right now. If one townie votes wrong 2 scum can just bandwagon that vote at the end so plz vote bresh if ur town. We cant have split votes today.
If you are going to try and call me scum can you at least not lie. I am not even voting you at the moment because i am intentionally waiting to see what Rad has to say for himself.
The way i see it one of two things is going to happen when rad is caught up one scenario is auto for me the other less so.
Loaf you are so obviously scummy you are saying me and abuse arnt changing our votes but i don't even have a vote up right now. You are obviously voting me because you think i am an easier misslynch than abuse would be. So explain why you are voting me and not abuse. heres hoping you dig an even bigger hole for yourself.
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On October 13 2014 20:22 loafery wrote: Rad ff vote breshke
breshke and abuse arent going to change their votes because they know i know they are scum.
Yes, that must totally be it, not like, all the evidence that we presented and the fact that you were completely useless the entire game and are now pushing us like mad because of no reason whatsoever because all your "reasons" are trash and have been already proven trash by me and the mod .
Honestly, there is no way you could be more confirmed scum than you are now, unless we'd have a confirmed cop check. Hell, you still have not even replied to my hypo track initiative, because "I don't see the use in this" even after I said that the use would be revealed after everyone does it.
@ Rad, I am waiting for your hypo tracker list.
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Taking a quick break from work to post since abuse appears to be held up on waiting for me.
My hypothetical tracker list:
Fecal Fecal
I have 5-6 pages to catch up on (so far) when I get a chance to tonight.
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You're so bad rad. You probably are the tracker and that's why you've never had any reason to actually push me.
Abuse are you the tracker or not and if you now know who is mafia because rad posted (I still think it's loaf especially after he called the scumteam before we had confirmation) please tell us. Waiting is stupid when we have all this time to discuss the other scum; are you waiting in case the real tracker claims?
This will probably be my only multiple-line post as I am in bed but will be doing family dinner stuff all day.
(ie. checking my phone and reading the thread but having people call me out for being on my phone before I can post anything meaningful)
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Rad, pick one:
Loaf
Breshke
Post thoughts and hopefully a vote. We. All. Need. To. Vote. The. Same. Person.
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I should manage to roll around in bed for a little while longer but I can already hear early arriving family members. Anyone here while I'm phone?
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On October 13 2014 16:10 loafery wrote: why would anyone say they were roleblocked? They'd be giving their role away and mafia would kill them instantly
Your logic that no one claimed they were roleblocked = there has to be tracker is flawed.
You know there is a tracker because you guys don't have a mafia roleblocker and you 2 are just normal mafia goons.
I am a fatty and have rly big thumbs so hitting that tiny little quote button is hard but I just know someone will say "where did loaf call the setup?" because everyone nitpicks my posts.
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On October 13 2014 20:22 loafery wrote: Rad ff vote breshke
breshke and abuse arent going to change their votes because they know i know they are scum.
If u want a day 4 vote breshke. Those two are only concerned about lynching only me when they should be thonking about the second mafia. If I die town loses the game.
I sometimes hate mafia when you have to convince other players i guess thats part of ur skill but they are scum just read my initial post claiming them scum. Mafia are in a better position right now. If one townie votes wrong 2 scum can just bandwagon that vote at the end so plz vote bresh if ur town. We cant have split votes today.
Whether or not it's loaf who said this I can't stress how important it is. If any single town player votes against the other town players, mafia can switch votes at the last second and have a 3-2 majority, or force a no-lynch even if town is split onto BOTH MAFIA. Mafia has the advantage tonight. Everyone needs to focus and I wish I could help more in the next 12 hours but here's my current lynch list: + Show Spoiler [disclaimer] + this list is subject to change based on evidence and posts provided in the future, or even based on things posted while composing this message. This list is in no way intended to be taken as fact, is not provided with a guarantee of 100% certainty and may or may not have ulterior motives behind the placements of players it contains. loaf breshke rad abuse
It seems nobody is here but these are my thoughts for now. I really should shower.
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ebwop: mafia has the advantage today*
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On October 13 2014 20:58 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 20:22 loafery wrote: Rad ff vote breshke
breshke and abuse arent going to change their votes because they know i know they are scum.
Yes, that must totally be it, not like, all the evidence that we presented and the fact that you were completely useless the entire game and are now pushing us like mad because of no reason whatsoever because all your "reasons" are trash and have been already proven trash by me and the mod . Honestly, there is no way you could be more confirmed scum than you are now, unless we'd have a confirmed cop check. Hell, you still have not even replied to my hypo track initiative, because "I don't see the use in this" even after I said that the use would be revealed after everyone does it. @ Rad, I am waiting for your hypo tracker list.
Do you know what you 2 guys are doing right now and it's so blatantly obvious to me but apparently not to rad and ff. You 2 are trying to discredit and tarnish everything I say. You 2 have the exact same reasoning for calling me a liar and saying that all my reasons for you 2 being a scum are wholly based on whether or not you get notified on being roleblocked. Lets face it guys, you guys didn't know it either and it was your way to make an excuse. And if the mod said that vts aren't otified you 2 would have said "oh well I just assumed from last game so my bad".
The only reason I can come up with why you 2 are working together like this to lynch me and discredit what I have done is that you 2 are scum and you know I'm right so you want to kill me. You're not looking at this from an objective angle like ff and I have no idea why rad is being so inac lately but we still have a day so no worries. You're not attacking anything ff or bresh says only me. It's obvious you want me dead because I'm right. The way you 2 are behaving towards me is all the more reason that you 2 are scum and ganging up on the person that knows it.
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Loaf understand this. I said i assumed it was a tracker and not a JK because of reasons o do with noone claiming role blocked. I don't know if abuse agreed with me or has his own reasons but he seemed to also assume it is a tracker. You flipped your shit at this saying we knew the setup as we were mafia and that's why we assumed it was a tracker. You then didn't listen to any explanations whatsoever and seem to be 100% convinced that me and abuse are scum which isn't true i am town. Seriously even if you think i am scum look back on the game do you really think abuse of anyone could be my partner
You're not looking at this from an objective angle like ff and I have no idea why rad is being so inac lately but we still have a day so no worries.
Explain to me how ff is looking at this from an objective angle? He said he is 100% voting you and you are the top of his lynch list so if you are town i don't see why you are so okay with him. You are almost making it too obvious he is your scum partner by completely ignoring his push on you. Why are you so sure it is me and abuse why arn't you looking at ff at all? But i do agree that rad has been inactive lately and i understand he has reasons but it i making me really paranoid.
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Don't be paranoid, heh. I'm catching up now, just a few more pages to go. I tend to work 12-8 EST lately (oftentimes later, like last week).
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On October 13 2014 14:05 abuse wrote: my knowledge bomb was that if one of the two peope that superbia mentioned at the start of n2 to be checked (me and Rad) would die tonight then superbia is most likely scum.
i was really busy and uninterested with the game yesterday though, so I totally forgot I was going to say this at the end of N2.
Totally makes sense you totally forgot cause boooring right? What are the chances scum hits you anyway? I mean, they only had to risk there possibly being a medic or JK on superbia instead of going for the other guy running the show.
On October 13 2014 16:54 abuse wrote: Seriously, does even 1 person here think that if me and breshke were scum together, then I would build such huge cases on him, showing every mistake he has made in this entire game?
WIFOM nonsense.
On October 13 2014 16:55 loafery wrote: But something happened at night and superbia claimed vet so you had to kill him at night. Or else you could have kept him alive and either lynched him or claimed vet and tracker yourselves and have a 50/50. You guys know there is a tracker and you guys are so sure of it because you guys don't have a roleblocker between you and only have 2 goons.
So you're thinking they switched their KP target to superbia after he claimed vet?
Let me tell you, sir. Superbia posted his last will at like... 10 seconds left on the countdown timer. Looks like we were both sitting there waiting until the last second with me posting just a few seconds after he did.
Scum abuse in that scenario has to read that post, decide, and get that switch KP post in really fucking quick.
However, it is sketchy as fuck that abuse wasn't there at EoN1 with the inconsistent reasoning of "meh."
Or maybe this quote and superbia's last will scared him?
On October 13 2014 02:48 Superbia wrote: If we have tracker or cop, check abuse.
Superbia, who was suddenly turning on his biggest town read (abuse), might be a problem after all?
But hey, now he's back and more excited than ever! He has a plan and everything and already knows who the tracker is (cause there's definitely a tracker right?). Time for town to turn this around with the new town leader abuse!
On October 13 2014 17:02 abuse wrote: paragraph 4 : I just love this. "but something happened at night". You don't even know what happened, yet you are so sure of this and pushing it so hard. also why on earth would I want to kill superbia considering he read me as town the entire game.
Great point! Why would you abuse? Maybe to allow for this sort of bs WIFOM defense to seal the deal?
Abuse/fecal scumteam probably. Not convinced on loaf town but since he considers abuse/breshke scum team (while only pushing breshke, as a note) a vote from him on abuse is a good enough start. Breshke's a town read for me. Could be abuse/loaf instead of abuse/fecal in the scenario that fecal is just a terrible player.
So loaf, if you're down to vote abuse instead of breshke, let's do it.
##Vote: Abuse
On October 13 2014 14:42 Fecalfeast wrote: loaf/breshke or loaf/rad imo
So fecal, you consider abuse confirmed town? The only guy left who was on both mislynches? Cause I don't fit into your scum team scenario unless town completely derped d2, in which case breshke would then be confirmed town to you. But you have him right there, next to your 100% scum loaf and maybe scum me.
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i'm willing to vote either bresh or abuse, but why aren't you voting bresh?
If you think bresh and abuse are mafia I dont think it matters in which order we lynch them.
Why abuse first?
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I explained. I read Bresh as town.
You claimed both were scum. I don't know if you're town or scum right now and am considering an abuse/loaf scum team, but since we match on abuse, let's do it.
Certainly you should have no qualms switching?
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Rad what is your opinion on loafs play today? Does it not feel like to you he id going for the win? I know you think loaf and abuse could be partners but couldn't it be loaf and ff aswell? Loaf has completely ignored ff's push on him like he doesnt need to worry about it.
I am still reading abuse as town one of the reasons is him voting Elvis and not me. both of them would have been a miss lynch so as mafia it probably would have looked far better for him to just lynch me as he had made the first and most well rounded case on me.
Abuse what did you get from the hypo tracker claims? Is this information you want to share today because i think you might have to end up doing it either way.
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I dont mind voting for abuse first but if u dont vote bresh tomorrow we ll lose anyway so theres really no point.
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