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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 07:36 GMT
#901
How am I supposed to answer that? I am not on the scum team because I am town.

?
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 14 2014 07:37 GMT
#902
w/e idc you are very likely mafia here it is 2/3 of you abuse and loaf and I have been reading abuse town most of the game and still do. I'm basically just waiting for rad to come and weigh in again.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 14 2014 07:43 GMT
#903
On October 14 2014 16:25 Breshke wrote:
Abuse if you are town the scum team is 100% loaf and ff you need to understand this. Seriously show me reasons why fecal is town.


The reason fecal is town is because rad and loaf are scum.

On October 14 2014 16:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Abuse you have to consider the loaf/breshke team. Look at this breshke guy.


What else do you want me to see?
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 14 2014 07:43 GMT
#904
On October 14 2014 16:37 Breshke wrote:
w/e idc you are very likely mafia here it is 2/3 of you abuse and loaf and I have been reading abuse town most of the game and still do. I'm basically just waiting for rad to come and weigh in again.


why are you saying Rad is not scum so surely?
I don't believe you.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 14 2014 07:47 GMT
#905
Ok the dream of not having our tracker outed isn't going to happen. Abuse you assume it is either me or rad that is the tracker i had the same thought about you. If it isn't you then it is Rad.

I know you said one of us scum one tracker but do you really think i wouldn't take that easy fake claim if i was mafia.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 14 2014 07:52 GMT
#906
On October 14 2014 16:47 Breshke wrote:
Ok the dream of not having our tracker outed isn't going to happen. Abuse you assume it is either me or rad that is the tracker i had the same thought about you. If it isn't you then it is Rad.

I know you said one of us scum one tracker but do you really think i wouldn't take that easy fake claim if i was mafia.


So you are saying you are definitely not tracker.
Crap.
Well then it's either FF or Rad, so Rad is the clear for now, he's just not as bright of a cookie as I thought.
Either way, loaf is 100% scum.
Hopefully rad stops being... like this, after loaf flips.
Can find the last scum tomorrow after the NK, which will give us tons of info.
I don't believe you.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 14 2014 08:01 GMT
#907
On October 14 2014 16:52 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:47 Breshke wrote:
Ok the dream of not having our tracker outed isn't going to happen. Abuse you assume it is either me or rad that is the tracker i had the same thought about you. If it isn't you then it is Rad.

I know you said one of us scum one tracker but do you really think i wouldn't take that easy fake claim if i was mafia.


So you are saying you are definitely not tracker.
Crap.
Well then it's either FF or Rad, so Rad is the clear for now, he's just not as bright of a cookie as I thought.
Either way, loaf is 100% scum.
Hopefully rad stops being... like this, after loaf flips.
Can find the last scum tomorrow after the NK, which will give us tons of info.


No FF has claimed not the tracker remember. Like I know i could have tried to play this off for you rad but like I feel it is too risky and would get to confusing for town considering how hard i can be to understand sometimes.

Abuse explain to me why if you are town then ff goes on his partner instantly at the start of the day.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 14 2014 08:01 GMT
#908
Lol abuse.

On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
The reason for the hypoclaims was to tell if either breshke or Rad were tracker. Because one of them had to be tracker while the other be scum.


So loaf and FF are definitely not tracker while either Breshke or I am tracker because magic?

On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
Taking this seriously or not is one of the reasons I did this and breshke did and rad didn't.


You're assuming I didn't take it seriously because...? Guess who actually didn't take it seriously - loaf and FF.

On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
Another thing I wanted to see is if the tracker listened to what superbia said during N2.
That is to track me during the night. Breshke's hypo list did take that into account and he has me as his N2 track. He saw me not going anywhere and this is why he is not pushing me at all currently.


You not going anywhere would not confirm you as town, but it's cute you're pointing that out like it would.

It's also funny you would think I'd listen to superbia's advice at end of n2. Pay more attention to the game and you'll be able to bullshit easier, abuse.

On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
There is no reason whatsoever, that a person with a brain, especially someone as observant as rad(as he has proven this game) to go against me at this point and not loaf when it is so blatantly obvious that loaf is pushing just because he wants to persuade people.


Again, you're pretending to be confirmed town and that it would be batshit insane to think otherwise. You're not confirmed town and I'm confident others can read through this bullshit.

On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
Call me arrogant, but there is no way in hell, that I should be even considered scum at this point, considering the input I had in this game.


You post a lot and make big cases. See my last newbie game a long time ago. I did the same as scum in that game and my effort won it for me. It's really easy to hide in a ton of bullshit because some people believe a big filter is a townie filter. You have to look at the content and the effort they're making. Here's what your actual input to this game was:

Mislynch wagon
Failed attempt to get vet to claim
Mislynch wagon
Failed to leave last will after suggesting you'd drop that amazing knowledge bomb
Failed attempt to get tracker to claim

Plus lots and lots of ignoring my thoughts on FF even when I'm finding shit for you in the last few minutes before d2 lynch.

What's next? Mislynch or are you bussing your partner to try to solidify that towniness?

On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
Rad tried to push a wagon with virtually no proof(wagon on FF) and kept going at it at D2. Then just dropped it altogether and hey, now me and breshke are obvious scum, right? And FF is town now, just like that.


You should pay better attention to the game. I consider breshke my top town read and by no means do I consider FF a town read.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 14 2014 08:18 GMT
#909
On October 14 2014 17:01 Rad wrote:
Lol abuse.

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
The reason for the hypoclaims was to tell if either breshke or Rad were tracker. Because one of them had to be tracker while the other be scum.


So loaf and FF are definitely not tracker while either Breshke or I am tracker because magic?

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
Taking this seriously or not is one of the reasons I did this and breshke did and rad didn't.


You're assuming I didn't take it seriously because...? Guess who actually didn't take it seriously - loaf and FF.

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
Another thing I wanted to see is if the tracker listened to what superbia said during N2.
That is to track me during the night. Breshke's hypo list did take that into account and he has me as his N2 track. He saw me not going anywhere and this is why he is not pushing me at all currently.


You not going anywhere would not confirm you as town, but it's cute you're pointing that out like it would.

It's also funny you would think I'd listen to superbia's advice at end of n2. Pay more attention to the game and you'll be able to bullshit easier, abuse.

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
There is no reason whatsoever, that a person with a brain, especially someone as observant as rad(as he has proven this game) to go against me at this point and not loaf when it is so blatantly obvious that loaf is pushing just because he wants to persuade people.


Again, you're pretending to be confirmed town and that it would be batshit insane to think otherwise. You're not confirmed town and I'm confident others can read through this bullshit.

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
Call me arrogant, but there is no way in hell, that I should be even considered scum at this point, considering the input I had in this game.


You post a lot and make big cases. See my last newbie game a long time ago. I did the same as scum in that game and my effort won it for me. It's really easy to hide in a ton of bullshit because some people believe a big filter is a townie filter. You have to look at the content and the effort they're making. Here's what your actual input to this game was:

Mislynch wagon
Failed attempt to get vet to claim
Mislynch wagon
Failed to leave last will after suggesting you'd drop that amazing knowledge bomb
Failed attempt to get tracker to claim

Plus lots and lots of ignoring my thoughts on FF even when I'm finding shit for you in the last few minutes before d2 lynch.

What's next? Mislynch or are you bussing your partner to try to solidify that towniness?

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
Rad tried to push a wagon with virtually no proof(wagon on FF) and kept going at it at D2. Then just dropped it altogether and hey, now me and breshke are obvious scum, right? And FF is town now, just like that.


You should pay better attention to the game. I consider breshke my top town read and by no means do I consider FF a town read.



1) loaf is not the tracker because he is scum because of how he is acting during this day, and because he was useless for all other times in this game so far.

2) ff didn't take it seriously but he also said beforehand that he is definitely not the tracker.

3) me not going anywhere does not prove anything for you and me, but you do not know who the person already tracked, + them having a brain should be a good enough reason to deduce as much.

4) I am not confirmed town by roles, but hell, why the fk would I play like I did this entire game if I wasn't town? This game was so frigging inactive and so easy for scum to win, if I'd just sit in the shadows, because there is literally nobody here who would call out such a behavior.

5) you saying that that was my only input in this game is bullshit.
I was the only one to make cases on every single person in this game.
I was the only one to clearly paint my stance on everyone in this game. Which is much more than you or anyone else in this game did. There is no reason for me to do it in this game if I were scum.
Me being on the mislynch wagon d1 does not prove or signal anything, because it was the only and best wagon on that day. If I call correctly, you yourself said that zen did no scumhunting in this game after he got lynched, so you were obviously okay with his lynch.
I didn't push the vet claim, I said he can do it if he wants to, you were the one who always kept making it like I was pushing that. Plus I thought that such an outcome would be better for town, and switched my stance when you proved me wrong.
N2 was not me on a mislynch wagon, it was a vote on the last second when we had no info on who to really lynch, even though FOR THE WHOLE FRIGGING DAY before I tried to get info from all of you, but you were all fucking afk and lazy.
I never said my knowledge bomb would be "amazing" and I never said it would be a last will. I said I would also leave a knowledge bomb at the end of N2. Which I forgot about, because I have stuff to do in my life and because even then, it wasn't anything that big anyway. Why on earth would I not make damn sure I drop a knowledge bomb, when I promised it, if I were scum? You should be smarter than this.

6) you started giving me "some kind" of things about FF 2 fucking minutes before EoD and I still had no vote on.
If you wanted FF to be lynched, you should've made a decent case about him in the frigging 48 hours of D2. You didn't.

What's next is me calling you an idiot.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 14 2014 08:19 GMT
#910
On October 14 2014 17:01 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:07 abuse wrote:
Rad tried to push a wagon with virtually no proof(wagon on FF) and kept going at it at D2. Then just dropped it altogether and hey, now me and breshke are obvious scum, right? And FF is town now, just like that.


You should pay better attention to the game. I consider breshke my top town read and by no means do I consider FF a town read.


My point was, if FF was your top scum this entire game, Why do you not push it at all now of all times, when it is literally do or die for town?
I don't believe you.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 08:19 GMT
#911
On October 13 2014 16:47 abuse wrote:
Fecal,
I did read.

I don't care if you are not the tracker, I still need your hypoclaims to figure out if you are scum or not.
And you are assuming all that on the fact that we lynch scum today and the tracker tracks the correct person tomorrow.
While it is not incorrect, it is much too risky. Also, I don't see how HYPOCLAIMS FROM EVERYONE would stop your scenario from happening. We do not have to reveal who the real tracker is.
I'm going to tell you right now - I already know who the tracker is.


Was this or was this not a lie/bait?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 14 2014 08:26 GMT
#912
On October 14 2014 17:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 16:47 abuse wrote:
Fecal,
I did read.

I don't care if you are not the tracker, I still need your hypoclaims to figure out if you are scum or not.
And you are assuming all that on the fact that we lynch scum today and the tracker tracks the correct person tomorrow.
While it is not incorrect, it is much too risky. Also, I don't see how HYPOCLAIMS FROM EVERYONE would stop your scenario from happening. We do not have to reveal who the real tracker is.
I'm going to tell you right now - I already know who the tracker is.


Was this or was this not a lie/bait?


I was sure that the tracker was between Rad and Breshke.
I was hoping Rad would have more of a brain and actually post a hypo list that would make any sense, instead of taking it stupidly. If he did, I would've taken his list for granted as the real tracker's list, but he didn't take the chance, and did a stupid fake list with the same person during both nights. I can't even emphasize how stupid and anti-town that was of him.

The tracker is now definitely not me, not breshke and not you. So we have that going for us, which is nice.
Basically it means Rad is tracker.
I don't believe you.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 08:27 GMT
#913
On October 14 2014 16:43 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:25 Breshke wrote:
Abuse if you are town the scum team is 100% loaf and ff you need to understand this. Seriously show me reasons why fecal is town.


The reason fecal is town is because rad and loaf are scum.

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Abuse you have to consider the loaf/breshke team. Look at this breshke guy.


What else do you want me to see?

what r u doin abuse


abuse stahp
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 14 2014 08:28 GMT
#914
*continuation*
Which is also why I am calling him stupid, and not scum anymore (after breshke claimed to not be tracker).
Because he is town in my book, but is pushing the wrong wagon forward, and we might lose because of it.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 14 2014 08:29 GMT
#915
On October 14 2014 17:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:43 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 16:25 Breshke wrote:
Abuse if you are town the scum team is 100% loaf and ff you need to understand this. Seriously show me reasons why fecal is town.


The reason fecal is town is because rad and loaf are scum.

On October 14 2014 16:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Abuse you have to consider the loaf/breshke team. Look at this breshke guy.


What else do you want me to see?

what r u doin abuse


abuse stahp


As I said, that read fell apart when breshke claimed to not be tracker.
That statement cleared Rad.

See below:

On October 14 2014 16:52 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:47 Breshke wrote:
Ok the dream of not having our tracker outed isn't going to happen. Abuse you assume it is either me or rad that is the tracker i had the same thought about you. If it isn't you then it is Rad.

I know you said one of us scum one tracker but do you really think i wouldn't take that easy fake claim if i was mafia.


So you are saying you are definitely not tracker.
Crap.
Well then it's either FF or Rad, so Rad is the clear for now, he's just not as bright of a cookie as I thought.
Either way, loaf is 100% scum.
Hopefully rad stops being... like this, after loaf flips.
Can find the last scum tomorrow after the NK, which will give us tons of info.

I don't believe you.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 08:30 GMT
#916
On October 14 2014 17:28 abuse wrote:
*continuation*
Which is also why I am calling him stupid, and not scum anymore (after breshke claimed to not be tracker).
Because he is town in my book, but is pushing the wrong wagon forward, and we might lose because of it.


Well we all have to vote the same person or it's all screwed anyway. mafia wins if any 1 of the 3 town are split
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 08:30 GMT
#917
On October 14 2014 17:29 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 14 2014 16:43 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 16:25 Breshke wrote:
Abuse if you are town the scum team is 100% loaf and ff you need to understand this. Seriously show me reasons why fecal is town.


The reason fecal is town is because rad and loaf are scum.

On October 14 2014 16:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Abuse you have to consider the loaf/breshke team. Look at this breshke guy.


What else do you want me to see?

what r u doin abuse


abuse stahp


As I said, that read fell apart when breshke claimed to not be tracker.
That statement cleared Rad.

See below:

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 16:52 abuse wrote:
On October 14 2014 16:47 Breshke wrote:
Ok the dream of not having our tracker outed isn't going to happen. Abuse you assume it is either me or rad that is the tracker i had the same thought about you. If it isn't you then it is Rad.

I know you said one of us scum one tracker but do you really think i wouldn't take that easy fake claim if i was mafia.


So you are saying you are definitely not tracker.
Crap.
Well then it's either FF or Rad, so Rad is the clear for now, he's just not as bright of a cookie as I thought.
Either way, loaf is 100% scum.
Hopefully rad stops being... like this, after loaf flips.
Can find the last scum tomorrow after the NK, which will give us tons of info.



Fecalfeast wat r u doin

Fecalfeast read...
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 14 2014 08:32 GMT
#918
Abuse you do realise tracking the same eprson both nights isn't that donkey. It isn't like cop mafia chooses who does the night actions so a mafia report saying no actions or w/e doesn't mean they are green. I think Rad's list was believable and wouldn't be surprised if it was the real one.

Also Rad you need to take this into perspective. Abuse thought i was tracker. Let's assume he is mafia. He thinks i tracked him N2 so his partner was 100% the one who submitted the night action. This means whoever you tracked if they came back no action or whatever they are very very very likely not abuses partner. So this kind of makes the lynch easy for today. Whoever you tracked last night cannot be abuses partner. This means if you tracked ff or loaf we lynch the one you didn't track as they are confirmed mafia.

I hope this makes sense i can explain it if needed.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 14 2014 08:33 GMT
#919
On October 14 2014 17:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:28 abuse wrote:
*continuation*
Which is also why I am calling him stupid, and not scum anymore (after breshke claimed to not be tracker).
Because he is town in my book, but is pushing the wrong wagon forward, and we might lose because of it.


Well we all have to vote the same person or it's all screwed anyway. mafia wins if any 1 of the 3 town are split


I am not voting for anyone else than loaf today.
I don't believe you.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 14 2014 08:34 GMT
#920
I'm too tired to continue with this tonight. Lynch is in 12+ hours and I'll try my hardest to be keeping up when I can (in and out for about 5 hours before the lynch hopefully).

I'm not saying anything more about the tracker nonsense abuse has created as a non-red track is useless and anyone could just claim tracker at this point. Anymore talk about tracker that isn't talking about a RED hit is scummy as fuck because it puts the tracker in danger even if we do lynch scum today.

My vote stays.
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