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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 04:31 GMT
#881
Uh, so wait... Because loaf is going for the win... I am his scum partner by... Pushing him... And him not caring...

What? Run that by me one more time? Would I not be pushing you and helping. It looked to me like there was a lot of easy pressure on you so I could hop on and help loaf go for the win, oh wait no it didn't because I'm not scum and didn't push you... That makes me scum by association.


What are you saying bresh?
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loafery
Profile Joined September 2014
142 Posts
October 14 2014 04:33 GMT
#882
Bresh scumslip
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 04:36 GMT
#883
On October 14 2014 13:33 loafery wrote:
Bresh scumslip

Lets see how he talks his way out of it first but uh...
lol
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loafery
Profile Joined September 2014
142 Posts
October 14 2014 04:37 GMT
#884
I dont see how a scum would push scum at this point in the game when they can push a townie together and be more convincing. Scumslip by bresh
loafery
Profile Joined September 2014
142 Posts
October 14 2014 04:38 GMT
#885
What excuse will he come up with now i wonder
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 04:40 GMT
#886
On October 14 2014 13:38 loafery wrote:
What excuse will he come up with now i wonder

Give it time. We still have time. I'm a little confused actually. Give me time too...
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Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 14 2014 04:41 GMT
#887
On October 14 2014 13:13 Breshke wrote:
Rad what is your opinion on loafs play today? Does it not feel like to you he id going for the win? I know you think loaf and abuse could be partners but couldn't it be loaf and ff aswell? Loaf has completely ignored ff's push on him like he doesnt need to worry about it.

I am still reading abuse as town one of the reasons is him voting Elvis and not me. both of them would have been a miss lynch so as mafia it probably would have looked far better for him to just lynch me as he had made the first and most well rounded case on me.

Abuse what did you get from the hypo tracker claims? Is this information you want to share today because i think you might have to end up doing it either way.


@Breshke, Loaf's play is confusing (as has been the case this whole game). I have no clue why he would suddenly become so interested in the game just now but I keep thinking about him missing the vote. There's no way he could know if he'd have gotten mod killed for that, so it doesn't seem like a scum move to keep his vote off a townie. It doesn't mean he's town but it seems more likely that if he's playing a lurkery scum game, he'd remember to vote.

@Loaf - why haven't you switched your vote to abuse yet? Why do you think we need to vote Breshke or lose? You think both are scum, so how is voting Breshke better than Abuse?
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 14 2014 05:00 GMT
#888
On October 14 2014 13:13 Breshke wrote:
I am still reading abuse as town one of the reasons is him voting Elvis and not me. both of them would have been a miss lynch so as mafia it probably would have looked far better for him to just lynch me as he had made the first and most well rounded case on me.


Abuse voted you, then switched to elvis following superbia (remember we now know that superbia's move was a town move). Scum doesn't care who gets lynched as long as it's town and this opened an opportunity for superbia to take the fall d3 (until of course he started openly considering abuse as scum). In fact, a scum abuse HAD to follow superbia here or risk losing superbia as the scapegoat. That + what I saw as a townie fight between you and elvis is what really pushes me more to believe abuse is scum and you're town.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 14 2014 05:02 GMT
#889
On October 14 2014 13:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Uh, so wait... Because loaf is going for the win... I am his scum partner by... Pushing him... And him not caring...

What? Run that by me one more time? Would I not be pushing you and helping. It looked to me like there was a lot of easy pressure on you so I could hop on and help loaf go for the win, oh wait no it didn't because I'm not scum and didn't push you... That makes me scum by association.


What are you saying bresh?


Yes loaf has been hardly active all game and then know seems convinced that it is me and abuse. He has even gone as far to imply that if we lynch abuse today we have to make sure to lynch me tomorrow. This was really strange to me because why didn't he say this to you fecal about lynching abuse tomorrow. You obviously had a town read on abuse yet he wasn't thinking about tomorrow at all when trying to get people to vote on me.

It also would have looked extremely weird if you started pushing on me since you had already stated a 100% read on loaf so you would have been voting alongside your 100% scum. Yes it was mainly a scum by association, whats wrong with this how is it a scumtell quit the bullshit scum has partners and will act differently towards them.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 05:14 GMT
#890
On October 14 2014 14:02 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Uh, so wait... Because loaf is going for the win... I am his scum partner by... Pushing him... And him not caring...

What? Run that by me one more time? Would I not be pushing you and helping. It looked to me like there was a lot of easy pressure on you so I could hop on and help loaf go for the win, oh wait no it didn't because I'm not scum and didn't push you... That makes me scum by association.


What are you saying bresh?


Yes loaf has been hardly active all game and then know seems convinced that it is me and abuse. He has even gone as far to imply that if we lynch abuse today we have to make sure to lynch me tomorrow. This was really strange to me because why didn't he say this to you fecal about lynching abuse tomorrow. You obviously had a town read on abuse yet he wasn't thinking about tomorrow at all when trying to get people to vote on me.

It also would have looked extremely weird if you started pushing on me since you had already stated a 100% read on loaf so you would have been voting alongside your 100% scum. Yes it was mainly a scum by association, whats wrong with this how is it a scumtell quit the bullshit scum has partners and will act differently towards them.

Obviously I am not 100% about it.

I'm not even 100% about being real
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 14 2014 05:15 GMT
#891
On October 14 2014 14:00 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:13 Breshke wrote:
I am still reading abuse as town one of the reasons is him voting Elvis and not me. both of them would have been a miss lynch so as mafia it probably would have looked far better for him to just lynch me as he had made the first and most well rounded case on me.


Abuse voted you, then switched to elvis following superbia (remember we now know that superbia's move was a town move). Scum doesn't care who gets lynched as long as it's town and this opened an opportunity for superbia to take the fall d3 (until of course he started openly considering abuse as scum). In fact, a scum abuse HAD to follow superbia here or risk losing superbia as the scapegoat. That + what I saw as a townie fight between you and elvis is what really pushes me more to believe abuse is scum and you're town.


What makes you think it was a townie fight? Like is there any specific parts? Also if this is your view on it why didn't you oppose the bandwagaons on that day more. Also i know this isn't being discussed anymore really but i think it's important. The second shot on superbia doesn't feel as important to me as I feel like mafia was forced into it as he would have gotten confirmed. Why Rad do you think superbia was shot D1. I know im town so his last reads list had me and Zen as both scum which is wrong. So why was he shot?

Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 14 2014 05:53 GMT
#892
On October 14 2014 14:15 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 14:00 Rad wrote:
On October 14 2014 13:13 Breshke wrote:
I am still reading abuse as town one of the reasons is him voting Elvis and not me. both of them would have been a miss lynch so as mafia it probably would have looked far better for him to just lynch me as he had made the first and most well rounded case on me.


Abuse voted you, then switched to elvis following superbia (remember we now know that superbia's move was a town move). Scum doesn't care who gets lynched as long as it's town and this opened an opportunity for superbia to take the fall d3 (until of course he started openly considering abuse as scum). In fact, a scum abuse HAD to follow superbia here or risk losing superbia as the scapegoat. That + what I saw as a townie fight between you and elvis is what really pushes me more to believe abuse is scum and you're town.


What makes you think it was a townie fight? Like is there any specific parts? Also if this is your view on it why didn't you oppose the bandwagaons on that day more. Also i know this isn't being discussed anymore really but i think it's important. The second shot on superbia doesn't feel as important to me as I feel like mafia was forced into it as he would have gotten confirmed. Why Rad do you think superbia was shot D1. I know im town so his last reads list had me and Zen as both scum which is wrong. So why was he shot?



I don't know how to explain the feeling of "the way this fight is playing out feels suspiciously like a townie fight" but after you've seen a few it becomes more clear. I recognize I might be wrong but sometimes I gotta go with my gut. I did announce that I wouldn't be voting for either you or elvis that day but I'm not going to straight up defend either of you in case of a scum flip.

This is why I think he got shot d1:

On October 09 2014 03:23 Superbia wrote:
I have the ball rolling already dude. We're also not lynching a lurker. They get modkilled or replaced. It's a waste of a lynch.

My circles:
town:
abuse <-------------

leaning town:
loaf
fecalfeast
Rad

null:
Elvis!
dusts

scum:
The_Zen_Man
breshke


On October 13 2014 17:02 abuse wrote:
paragraph 4 :
I just love this. "but something happened at night". You don't even know what happened, yet you are so sure of this and pushing it so hard. --------------->also why on earth would I want to kill superbia considering he read me as town the entire game.


It's a great play in newbies because newbies are easily convinced with WIFOM defenses. A scum abuse just has to establish his towniness and I can't think of an easier way than killing superbia and playing the wifom defense.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
October 14 2014 06:33 GMT
#893
Vote count:

loafery (2): Fecalfeast, abuse
abuse (1): Rad
Breshke (1): loafery

Not voting (1): Breshke

Currently, loafery is set to be lynched.
Deadline is Tuesday, Oct 14 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory!

If there are errors, please let us know.


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: Fecalfeast voted loafery (post)
VOTE: loafery voted breshke (Breshke) (post)
VOTE: abuse voted loafery (post)
VOTE: Rad voted Abuse (abuse) (post)
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1931 Posts
October 14 2014 07:07 GMT
#894
The reason for the hypoclaims was to tell if either breshke or Rad were tracker. Because one of them had to be tracker while the other be scum.

Taking this seriously or not is one of the reasons I did this and breshke did and rad didn't.
Another thing I wanted to see is if the tracker listened to what superbia said during N2.
That is to track me during the night. Breshke's hypo list did take that into account and he has me as his N2 track. He saw me not going anywhere and this is why he is not pushing me at all currently.

FF is town.

loaf+rad is the scum team.

There is no reason whatsoever, that a person with a brain, especially someone as observant as rad(as he has proven this game) to go against me at this point and not loaf when it is so blatantly obvious that loaf is pushing just because he wants to persuade people. He ignores every counter argument thrown his way. Hence why I am 100% ignoring all of his posts now. He is scum, there is no need to read his trash anymore.

Call me arrogant, but there is no way in hell, that I should be even considered scum at this point, considering the input I had in this game. Hell, I was the only person who tried to make people look at everyone else during this entire game, always being open and showing my reads on everyone, trying to solve the game.
Loaf did nothing. he didn't even vote in 50% of his day phases.
Rad tried to push a wagon with virtually no proof(wagon on FF) and kept going at it at D2. Then just dropped it altogether and hey, now me and breshke are obvious scum, right? And FF is town now, just like that.

Also, what breshke said is not a scumslip. You just have to look at this point of view. What he meant by that point is that loaf is ignoring everything FF says and is only focusing on me and breshke, while FF has been saying pretty much the same things as me and breshke about loaf. Breshke thinks that FF can be scum because his "pressure" on loaf is no reason for loaf to worry about it, since it will not be actual real pressure in the end, if loaf+ff is a scumteam. I do not believe this to be the case though.

Again. Loaf+Rad scumteam.

It is all up to you really FF.
Which sucks because you have thanksgiving and whatnot and can't go through the game as you need to at this point.
But please just read loafs posts during this day and remember what he was like the entire time up to here.
Also look at rad's reads. They make no sense.
His entire case on me right now is also a joke, because it is all based on assumptions, and 0 actual proof. Also note how conveniently he is always busy and "catching up with the thread".

This game is solved. I will not move my vote from loaf today. And I am voting Rad tomorrow.

I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1931 Posts
October 14 2014 07:11 GMT
#895
On October 14 2014 14:53 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 14:15 Breshke wrote:
On October 14 2014 14:00 Rad wrote:
On October 14 2014 13:13 Breshke wrote:
I am still reading abuse as town one of the reasons is him voting Elvis and not me. both of them would have been a miss lynch so as mafia it probably would have looked far better for him to just lynch me as he had made the first and most well rounded case on me.


Abuse voted you, then switched to elvis following superbia (remember we now know that superbia's move was a town move). Scum doesn't care who gets lynched as long as it's town and this opened an opportunity for superbia to take the fall d3 (until of course he started openly considering abuse as scum). In fact, a scum abuse HAD to follow superbia here or risk losing superbia as the scapegoat. That + what I saw as a townie fight between you and elvis is what really pushes me more to believe abuse is scum and you're town.


What makes you think it was a townie fight? Like is there any specific parts? Also if this is your view on it why didn't you oppose the bandwagaons on that day more. Also i know this isn't being discussed anymore really but i think it's important. The second shot on superbia doesn't feel as important to me as I feel like mafia was forced into it as he would have gotten confirmed. Why Rad do you think superbia was shot D1. I know im town so his last reads list had me and Zen as both scum which is wrong. So why was he shot?



I don't know how to explain the feeling of "the way this fight is playing out feels suspiciously like a townie fight" but after you've seen a few it becomes more clear. I recognize I might be wrong but sometimes I gotta go with my gut. I did announce that I wouldn't be voting for either you or elvis that day but I'm not going to straight up defend either of you in case of a scum flip.

This is why I think he got shot d1:

Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 03:23 Superbia wrote:
I have the ball rolling already dude. We're also not lynching a lurker. They get modkilled or replaced. It's a waste of a lynch.

My circles:
town:
abuse <-------------

leaning town:
loaf
fecalfeast
Rad

null:
Elvis!
dusts

scum:
The_Zen_Man
breshke


Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 17:02 abuse wrote:
paragraph 4 :
I just love this. "but something happened at night". You don't even know what happened, yet you are so sure of this and pushing it so hard. --------------->also why on earth would I want to kill superbia considering he read me as town the entire game.


It's a great play in newbies because newbies are easily convinced with WIFOM defenses. A scum abuse just has to establish his towniness and I can't think of an easier way than killing superbia and playing the wifom defense.



or, if I were scum, I could just keep superbia alive, have the other scum make the shot, so tracker would not see me shooting, and just pretend to solve the game together with superbia, now that he would be sure that I am town.
but hey, thinking of it logically is not good for your scum team now, huh ?
I don't believe you.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 07:11 GMT
#896
My vote is still on loaf bud. We ride together, we die together. We have to vote the same, really.
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 14 2014 07:25 GMT
#897
Abuse if you are town the scum team is 100% loaf and ff you need to understand this. Seriously show me reasons why fecal is town.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 07:30 GMT
#898
Abuse you have to consider the loaf/breshke team. Look at this breshke guy.
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 14 2014 07:34 GMT
#899
Fecal what is wrong with what i just said there?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2014 07:35 GMT
#900
On October 14 2014 16:34 Breshke wrote:
Fecal what is wrong with what i just said there?

Are you serious right now?
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