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sqrtofneg1
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Koshi
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to me Odin looks pretty the same. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 23 2014 03:03 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Okay, looking at Odin's filter myself, I think he's just a vanilla townie. Scum would try harder to get out of it. As a vanilla townie, he wouldn't care. You say as a VT he wouldn't care, but remember the first thing he did when he got back was to vote me (and not follow it up! and then unvote me later after I goad him deliberately, angering most people, but not him for some reason... while waffling on others)... | ||
Xatalos
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Koshi
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On May 23 2014 03:05 Blazinghand wrote: You say as a VT he wouldn't care, but remember the first thing he did when he got back was to vote me (and not follow it up! and then unvote me later after I goad him deliberately, angering most people, but not him for some reason... while waffling on others)... Odin did unvote Palmar in YOSO while he was 100% certain Palmar scumclaimed with the "blow me" reference. | ||
Xatalos
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##Unvote ##Vote: OdinofPergo | ||
Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Isn't it the same here? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 23 2014 02:54 bkqyrldp wrote: We are 2 people you would be glad to sheep. I thought we were pretty obvious already, but if not I prefer to keep it a secret to not ruin the fun. And also night is comming soon so there is also that =P you're sandroba aren't you | ||
Xatalos
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 23 2014 03:01 bkqyrldp wrote: How is that Marv wasn't worried about the lack of resistance to the lynch due to "influential" townies supporting the lynch and then after the fairly lackluster return by Tamburini instead of analyzing the posts himself, he decides to sheep Hapa's very brief thoughts on them (all Hapa said was that Tamburini seemed pretty direct and open)? Apparently he doesn't even consider Tamburini misspeaking/lying worth commenting either, even when I directly asked him about it. He went from being seemingly confident to not caring enough to even form his own opinion. This could be Marv just being very unconfident in his reads, but it looks very suspicious to me. Laziness if you're stupid enough to think that i'd be happy to appear that lazy as mafia, then you are stupid circular argument ftw | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 23 2014 03:05 Koshi wrote: Odin filter in You only shoot once. Meta differences? to me Odin looks pretty the same. big differences. Take a look at this post from YOSO by Odin: On April 26 2014 18:06 OdinOfPergo wrote: I still don't understand. Maby I'm bad. What does it really have to do with squat though? "But know this: IF he's scum, then he's got a free pass to use his KP however he wishes right now if he has day KP free of scrutiny because he is GOING to die." But why? What you are saying involves these possibles. a) Palmar is vanilla town. He dies to nuke. b) Palmar is blue dayvig towner. He OMGUS Caller and kills him. c) Palmar is scum. He OMGUS/ Spends scum kp killing Caller and dies himself unless his role (or other scum role for him) can dayvig Palmar. Point in case is that either; vanilla town Palmar dies to the nuke. town dayvig Palmar kills Caller. Scum Palmar/ teammates dayvig Caller. None of these results give us any information. How are you drawing conclusions from them? Like I don't disagree that Caller's nuke at this point seems unwarrented. I'm simply confused on how you are coming up with 'scum' for someone because of it. This is Odin following up a post with a continued argument in direct response to someone, pushing his arguments. Sure, he votes then unvotes Palmar, but look at how his reads develop On April 27 2014 09:49 OdinOfPergo wrote: Koshi rest your mind. If this isn't a scum claim I don't know what is. Palmar is basically saying "Firetruck all you town ppl" Besides I think you've been in a few games where the 'blow me town' phrase came up as a scum claim a few times. What gives Kosher? I'm so comfortable with this that I hope Caller's nuke DOESN'T land(Like he claimed) just so we can lynch scum regardless. I also get a nice town-read from it. Which is nice because I was kind of at a loss at how to treat the scenario of Palmar not dying from the nuke. Now I do. SO thanks Palmar for being so scum. Anyway. I just thought I'd chime in on this. I need to actually do more than a breeze through of this thread but ye For now while I re-read with some thought.. Koshi; I want you to decide and base what your read is on this. I've heard you flip flop between Palmar and Caller for a while now with little to go between. SO decide. Otherwise I'm going to be confused and might think your scum for floating reads with no reason. P.S. (It might be a while before I'm free to post. Ask your questions though. I'll make it around to them.) On April 27 2014 10:29 OdinOfPergo wrote: No I don't care about the pardon. I have Prp as null/slight town. I don't care if Foolish says he's scum. From his filter I don't think that. I'm curious as to why Koshi goes from reading his filter pretty much saying "This guy seems town" to "welp Fool thinks he's scum so he's got to be scum." Doesn't make sense to me. Per Palmar.. Ye my read has little to do with it. Palmar could be scum framing a townie for a... second mislynch? (Assuming Prp actually would of gone through) Or setting up Wifom trying to frame Prp as town now. I don't know which yet. I'll draw conclusions on it after I've thought about it more. But Palmar saying "sod off town. I'm going to be disruptive as possible" You think that play makes Palmar town? Like seriously? Look how he mentions other reads, but never stops pushing his target: On April 27 2014 09:49 OdinOfPergo wrote: Koshi rest your mind. If this isn't a scum claim I don't know what is. Palmar is basically saying "Firetruck all you town ppl" Besides I think you've been in a few games where the 'blow me town' phrase came up as a scum claim a few times. What gives Kosher? I'm so comfortable with this that I hope Caller's nuke DOESN'T land(Like he claimed) just so we can lynch scum regardless. I also get a nice town-read from it. Which is nice because I was kind of at a loss at how to treat the scenario of Palmar not dying from the nuke. Now I do. SO thanks Palmar for being so scum. Anyway. I just thought I'd chime in on this. I need to actually do more than a breeze through of this thread but ye For now while I re-read with some thought.. Koshi; I want you to decide and base what your read is on this. I've heard you flip flop between Palmar and Caller for a while now with little to go between. SO decide. Otherwise I'm going to be confused and might think your scum for floating reads with no reason. P.S. (It might be a while before I'm free to post. Ask your questions though. I'll make it around to them.) And then he votes, as a culmination of a legitimate pushing effort: On April 27 2014 17:48 OdinOfPergo wrote: What the hell. Seriously. Why is no one lynching Palmar. This dude claims scum, and everyone ignore it. I haven't checked out SnB but you know what.. I'm not going to until tomorrow. Lynching scum to high on my list to worry about other things. ##Vote: Palmar Even now Palmar you can't be asked to put any effort into this game. Per your last post you; Want to die so you can "yell at game" post game. Didn't actually read Prp's case but decided he must be town. So thus pardon.... TO FIRETRUCK WITH TOWN. And he's WORRIED he didn't screw with town. So what gives? There is this guy in our game... Who claims over and over again he's out to do whatever is possible to ruin the town. And we aren't lynching him. and he only unvotes when, in a majority game, a consolidation is NEEDED in order to prevent a no-lynch. Not because people didn't express interest 24 hours into a 48 hour day, but because in a majority game at the end of the day you MUST consolidate On April 28 2014 11:39 OdinOfPergo wrote: OK snap we need to consolidate. I haven't been around so I'm going to ##Unvote I still don't like anything Palmar has done. But I have no hope of pushing this lynch and no one else seems to think.. well, bluntly put, doing anti town things makes you not town. w/e. I'm not happy but there is tomorrow. I'm also willing to donate post to people who are around to discuss topics. I'm a bit behind but I will focus on catching up before the deadline. Even later, he stays on Palmar On April 28 2014 12:47 OdinOfPergo wrote: Wtf no. How is Palmar not been anti town? Also thanks Austin. Your previous comment led me to Oats filter and I had some quams with it before. But reading it now with fresh eyes... These are the big hiccups I ran into. What Slam shot? I must of missed it earlier but apparently he is lying and didn't shoot Yam. Then we should lynch him. Yam was annoying. I thought there was a decent chance he was scum. I don't blame Slam for his shot. But wait I just read it was Ace who possibly shot Yam? I'm much confused right now. Moving to SnB ##unvote ##vote SnB as per my SNB thoughts.. I didn't like his VE tunnel. It wasn't a tunnel in the sense that he focus him as scum.. He focused on explain how his ideas lined up. Way to much. Like I don't even think VE is scum and I think this guy is protecting so much that it makes me wonder. But a few of his responses and even his post in general tbh give a townish vibe when people bring up arguement. Like for example People grab pitchforks and go for SnB Odin: "Well ye I guess that makes sense" People: "NO! He's super towns! Re-read his stuff you will see!" Odin: "Well, I mean that looks bad but this looks ok..." People: "He's totes scum" Odin: "I'm so freaking confused." My problem with the SnB lynch isn't that I think he could flip scum. No there is that possibility. I think that it's not a bad lynch. I know this responce will make me look bad. But I don't care. The reason I don't want to lynch SnB is because I'm not sure on SnB's alignment. He's posted plenty to point towards scum. He has posted enough that I second guess myself. where's that follow up now? Where's that follow through, the development of reads, the conviction of his beliefs? nowhere | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 23 2014 03:07 Koshi wrote: Odin did unvote Palmar in YOSO while he was 100% certain Palmar scumclaimed with the "blow me" reference. the unvote is only part of it, though. in YOSO Odin was weighing in constantly and kept on pushing on Palmar. He kept the Palmar discussion alive even after that day. In any case, he had lots of follow up and clearly discernable, pushed, followed-through reads that he does NOT have this game. | ||
Koshi
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sqrtofneg1
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Valenius's filter from NMM LIV: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445959-newbie-mini-mafia-liv?user=Valenius&view=all He was vanilla town. He was much more active in scumhunting, he was much more direct, he was different. Tambo's filter from NMM LV: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447955-newbie-mini-mafia-lv?user=mtamburini He was vanilla town. The filter is a bit more strange because he claimed vig, but it's more accurate of his play than when he was cop imo. I've concluded that Valenius has been acting more strange, in comparison, rather than Tambo. ##Unvote ##Vote: Valenius | ||
Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On May 23 2014 03:11 Koshi wrote: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Maybe BH isn't crazy. It's crazy, I know :O | ||
Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On May 23 2014 03:11 Koshi wrote: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Maybe BH isn't crazy. BH confirmed not crazy. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 23 2014 03:11 Koshi wrote: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Maybe BH isn't crazy. no, he's definitely crazy. however, crazy people can be right also. | ||
OnceKing
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i still think valenius is scum and i think his reduction of the stuff i have on him to "hes shit so hes scum" is pretty disingenuous though | ||
Xatalos
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