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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 22 2014 17:33 GMT
#2381
The Foolishness "I'm not going to read the thread" strategy really shouldn't be allowed to fly from here on out.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 22 2014 17:34 GMT
#2382
VOTE COUNT:


mtamburini (7): Tehpoofter, Hapahauli, Alakaslam, mattisfoolish, Xatalos, Cavalinho, Holyflare, thrawn2112, BlueyD, marvellosity, jampidampi, 27ninjabunnies
Valenius (6): Meapak_Ziphh, Hapahauli, Tehpoofter, OnceKing, marvellosity, Hapahauli, Xatalos, kitaman27
geript (1): Holyflare, Steveling
Koshi (0): Valenius
Steveling (0): Holyflare, Cavalinho, geript
Alakaslam (0): kushm4sta, kushm4sta
Hapahauli (0): kushm4sta
Yell0w (1): Tehpoofter, Tehpoofter, BlueyD
Xatalos (0): jampidampi, marvellosity, Koshi, thrawn2112, kushm4sta
jampidampi (0): sqrtofneg1, Xatalos, Xatalos
27ninjabunnies (1): Cephiro
sqrtofneg1 (0): kitaman27
bkqyrldp (0): marvellosity
OdinOfPergo (4): Blazinghand, Steveling, Xatalos, Yell0w, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, kushm4sta
Holyflare (2): WaveofShadow, Xatalos, Steveling, Steveling, sqrtofneg1
WaveofShadow (1): kitaman27, bkqyrldp
Blazinghand (1): Tehpoofter, OdinofPergo, geript, marvellosity, geript
thrawn2112 (0): 27ninjabunnies
marvellosity (0): kushm4sta
layabout (2): jampidampi, Koshi, OnceKing, marvellosity, ritoky
ritoky (1): austinmcc, layabout
BlueyD (0): kitaman27

Not voting (5): mtamburini, MysterMeat1, Valenius, austinmcc, OdinofPergo

Currently mtamburini is set to be lynched with 7 votes. Deadline is in .

Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in the Voting Thread.

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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
May 22 2014 17:34 GMT
#2383
bluey's kinda sketch though i still want to know why there are like 4 votes on odin
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2014 17:35 GMT
#2384
On May 23 2014 02:34 OnceKing wrote:
bluey's kinda sketch though i still want to know why there are like 4 votes on odin

It's the crazy people.
I had a good night of sleep.
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 22 2014 17:37 GMT
#2385
On May 23 2014 02:34 OnceKing wrote:
bluey's kinda sketch though i still want to know why there are like 4 votes on odin


...Why is this even relevant information when there are like 32 players in the game?
Spectaticle
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 22 2014 17:38 GMT
#2386
It's kinda funny how my opposition to the BH rng argument has prevented me from actually considering that Odin could be mafia on principle.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 22 2014 17:38 GMT
#2387
On May 23 2014 02:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 02:34 OnceKing wrote:
bluey's kinda sketch though i still want to know why there are like 4 votes on odin

It's the crazy people.


HAHA :D Thanks for a good laugh.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 22 2014 17:39 GMT
#2388
On May 23 2014 02:38 kitaman27 wrote:
It's kinda funny how my opposition to the BH rng argument has prevented me from actually considering that Odin could be mafia on principle.

You're not alone
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
May 22 2014 17:39 GMT
#2389
because it means that some people are suspicious or at least pretending to be suspicious of him, over other wagons like tambo and valenius
so what makes him a more suspicious fella worth suspecting over anyone else?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 22 2014 17:39 GMT
#2390
On May 23 2014 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 02:38 kitaman27 wrote:
It's kinda funny how my opposition to the BH rng argument has prevented me from actually considering that Odin could be mafia on principle.

You're not alone


+1
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 22 2014 17:42 GMT
#2391
Oh ish the deadline is two hours away. When did that happen?
Spectaticle
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2014 17:43 GMT
#2392
On May 23 2014 02:42 Cavalinho wrote:
Oh ish the deadline is two hours away. When did that happen?

46h ago.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2014 17:43 GMT
#2393
I have no better input than those little remarks btw.
I had a good night of sleep.
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 22 2014 17:44 GMT
#2394
Thanks Koshi.

You're a beacon of wisdom in a sea of uncertainty.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
May 22 2014 17:44 GMT
#2395
On May 23 2014 02:43 Koshi wrote:
I have no better input than those little remarks btw.


This is why we love you.
Spectaticle
bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 22 2014 17:46 GMT
#2396
On May 23 2014 01:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Mystermeat's meh. Not only is it a coinflip, but we're going to get absolutely nothing out of that lynch information-wise, so let's not do that.

I'm back to Valenius right now.
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 01:45 OnceKing wrote:
On May 23 2014 01:37 Hapahauli wrote:
On May 23 2014 01:31 OnceKing wrote:
also i could buy a ritoky lynch over a layabout lynch atm
or valenius


Cool. Why?

I'm sorta thinking about lynching you right now to be honest.

layabout actually pushing his scum read instead of just wasting time waffling about in his posts, ritoky doesn't
valenius doesn't either but he's even worse because he hasn't got any reads other than town and null, there are just so many polarizing people in the thread i don't see how you can come away with nothing


This is a pretty good observation by OnceKing, and Valenius has slipped my mind for a while. Val really hasn't done much this game at all - a majority of his filter are short posts that have nothing to do with reads or scumhunting. A lot of +1's and idle questions. He does have one scum-hunting post...

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:15 Valenius wrote:
Onegu, that's terrible; Really hope it get's better quickly.
Hapa, have you actually read that post you quoted. It seemed very natural to me with no forced reads and everything he said was very reasonable and from a stream of thought. I really think valenius is towny and moving the lynch off tambu after his suspicious comeback seems wrong. A lot of people seem to be waitng for his return to have an excuse to move their votes off and if anything it made him look worse. I'm way more confident in wos, but between those 2 tamburini is way more likely of actually being scum.




I'm not sure how many posts, and this applies for all of you 'vets', are serious and how many are little in jokes between yourselves.. so if I miss out something it's probably because i didnt want to make a read based on something that could be common in your games. Make sense? As always with me, i just read through filters. Backtracking thread is too hard.

So.. + Show Spoiler +


Yell0w.

+ Show Spoiler +
Despite how much everyone seems to hate the whole RNGesus plan, his initial post on it was solid. It's misguided in that it would require everyone to take part.. which won't happen; but the theory is sound. It's easy enough for someone to test everyone else's post to make sure there's no tomfoolery occurring. Any switches (early or late) would draw suspicion. Somebody pulled him up on his switch to BH's plan 'with no posts in between', but that was bullshit. He'd been shown how it wouldn't work, so his switch was logical.

His first big post mostly makes sense. I agree with his points on RNG not being totally alignment indicative, and for me it's probably more like 60% town indicative. With most of the players in here, I don't think experienced scum would have much trouble causing a mislynch on day1. RNG is imo more likely to hit them than a lynch through the normal course of play - Unless they made a monumental slip-up.

Summary: Probably Town, like his thought process.


Blazinghand

+ Show Spoiler +
Dude, drop the RNG. I was a believer, but it's not going to happen.

Again, the logic behind it was solid (imo - see above), as is the setup talk and effectiveness of the scummers.

The wording of this post was a little bit off to me: + Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 07:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Good point, also it doesn't matter, we need to kill them all. So are you on board, jampidampi? or are you busy thinking of another excuse not to lynch your scumbuddy odin?


In the post he was replying to, i'd put the win condition was "Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town". The 'we need to kill them all' seems to have just ignored that. Not sure if slip, but thought i'd mention it.. 'when in Rome' and all.

Overall: I don't like how you've continued pushing the RNG as it's getting to the stage where most are ignoring you, although If anything I think it makes you more town than scum at this point.


Alakaslam

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't get you.



+ Show Spoiler +
You know what stop putting Vaseline in your car and diesel does not improve your lips. Neither does motor oil work for lubrication of human anatom-

Actually, I am unsure of that

Anyway dat GASOLINE more specific than PETROL bro

Putting plastic in the car or what?

Loo

Heheh

Alyoominnium

If course to you we like a-LOO-minnum


sqrtofneg1
+ Show Spoiler +

Seems reasonably in line with newbie games i've played/obs'd with him, although slightly

Odd post time: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed." - Forgive me if I missed the page, but where was this confirmed?

Your vote on Holyflare was about as useful as my vote on Koshi.

+e$ports 20 for the recent geript comment.

Summary: Stay vigilant sqrt, newbie bro. These guys will promise you the world, and just end up taking your bottle-cap collection. (Probably town, but a bit too easily swayed)


Cavalinho

+ Show Spoiler +
You could pretty much pull out in a black Ford Model 18 "V-8" (1932-1934)* and wave your tommy gun around and I still probably wouldn't lynch you today. You're a survivor Cav, I believe in you.

* Thanks GQ slideshow

Oh, actual 'analysis' time?

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 14:12 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 14:09 BlueyD wrote:
Cav why do you think he's scum?


Because he's scum.

And also because he's trying to hide and he's posting a lot of questions aimed at making people feel superior. Hence, he is a mafia trying to get people to ignore him and blend in.


I pretty much fully disagree. Steveling's done anything but try and blend in. The lover's tiff between him and Holyflare is one of the more dominant things that have happened so far. Maybe people will laugh, and maybe I'm overestimating the ability of some of you regulars/overusing my newbie reads, but it doesn't seem massively scummy.

You haven't defecated today.

Summary: Pale Mafia. A light shade of pink.



27ninjabunnies
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to ome out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.



I find the last sentence a little bit contradictory. If you assume that you're in a game with people who will catch slips most of the time, then surely the talkative slippy mafia wouldn't last longer than the lurkers due to the talkative slippy nature of themselves? I don't know, maybe it's just my interpretation of the line, and maybe im understating the {if any) part.


+ Show Spoiler +
If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.


The fuck? It's early in the game, and there's pretty much 0 pressure on you to give out your reads to him. Saying you're then looking at them will surely change their behaviour, rendering the whole thing invalid?

The whole post by matamburini is too big and had too many capitals, so I havent and probably wont read it.


Meapak_Ziphh
+ Show Spoiler +

You still have your vote on me, and i think you've spelled my name about 6 different ways. Apart from me, who do you think's scummy?


bkqyrldp

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't have a clue what to expect from a 2-player player, but his post on how players enters the thread is alright. His quotes on jampidampi back this up. When the game started last night i couldnt really care, and i plan to return to that after this post for today. Previous newbie games i tried hard to analyse everything, and ended up being wrong and getting stressed, so it's carefree all the way for this game.

Erm, summary: Town.


Kitaman27

+ Show Spoiler +
The heart post was funny, not much else in his filter. He hosted my first game, so I always thought he'd be super pro. Kita, warm my little heart and show me you're pro.


I'm bored now and hungry and i suck at analysis and nobody will probably read it ::longpost:: and all. back to short-shitposting for now. I'll talk about others tomorrow.


...that doesn't really say much about anything. He calls Cav a "slight shade of pink", and that's the closest he gets to a scumread. Everything else is a bunch of town reads, null reads, or posed questions. I also really dont' like the last bit of this post...

Show nested quote +
I'm bored now and hungry and i suck at analysis and nobody will probably read it ::longpost:: and all. back to short-shitposting for now. I'll talk about others tomorrow.


... for a number of reasons. Lack of confidence, lack of willingness to do analysis, openly declares intentions to shitpost... meh.

bkqyrldp
Profile Joined January 2014
49 Posts
May 22 2014 17:48 GMT
#2397
EBWOP:
On May 23 2014 01:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Mystermeat's meh. Not only is it a coinflip, but we're going to get absolutely nothing out of that lynch information-wise, so let's not do that.

I'm back to Valenius right now.
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 01:45 OnceKing wrote:
On May 23 2014 01:37 Hapahauli wrote:
On May 23 2014 01:31 OnceKing wrote:
also i could buy a ritoky lynch over a layabout lynch atm
or valenius


Cool. Why?

I'm sorta thinking about lynching you right now to be honest.

layabout actually pushing his scum read instead of just wasting time waffling about in his posts, ritoky doesn't
valenius doesn't either but he's even worse because he hasn't got any reads other than town and null, there are just so many polarizing people in the thread i don't see how you can come away with nothing


This is a pretty good observation by OnceKing, and Valenius has slipped my mind for a while. Val really hasn't done much this game at all - a majority of his filter are short posts that have nothing to do with reads or scumhunting. A lot of +1's and idle questions. He does have one scum-hunting post...

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 04:15 Valenius wrote:
Onegu, that's terrible; Really hope it get's better quickly.



I'm not sure how many posts, and this applies for all of you 'vets', are serious and how many are little in jokes between yourselves.. so if I miss out something it's probably because i didnt want to make a read based on something that could be common in your games. Make sense? As always with me, i just read through filters. Backtracking thread is too hard.

So.. + Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DciHBnMnlo


Yell0w.

+ Show Spoiler +
Despite how much everyone seems to hate the whole RNGesus plan, his initial post on it was solid. It's misguided in that it would require everyone to take part.. which won't happen; but the theory is sound. It's easy enough for someone to test everyone else's post to make sure there's no tomfoolery occurring. Any switches (early or late) would draw suspicion. Somebody pulled him up on his switch to BH's plan 'with no posts in between', but that was bullshit. He'd been shown how it wouldn't work, so his switch was logical.

His first big post mostly makes sense. I agree with his points on RNG not being totally alignment indicative, and for me it's probably more like 60% town indicative. With most of the players in here, I don't think experienced scum would have much trouble causing a mislynch on day1. RNG is imo more likely to hit them than a lynch through the normal course of play - Unless they made a monumental slip-up.

Summary: Probably Town, like his thought process.


Blazinghand

+ Show Spoiler +
Dude, drop the RNG. I was a believer, but it's not going to happen.

Again, the logic behind it was solid (imo - see above), as is the setup talk and effectiveness of the scummers.

The wording of this post was a little bit off to me: + Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 07:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Good point, also it doesn't matter, we need to kill them all. So are you on board, jampidampi? or are you busy thinking of another excuse not to lynch your scumbuddy odin?


In the post he was replying to, i'd put the win condition was "Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town". The 'we need to kill them all' seems to have just ignored that. Not sure if slip, but thought i'd mention it.. 'when in Rome' and all.

Overall: I don't like how you've continued pushing the RNG as it's getting to the stage where most are ignoring you, although If anything I think it makes you more town than scum at this point.


Alakaslam

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't get you.



+ Show Spoiler +
You know what stop putting Vaseline in your car and diesel does not improve your lips. Neither does motor oil work for lubrication of human anatom-

Actually, I am unsure of that

Anyway dat GASOLINE more specific than PETROL bro

Putting plastic in the car or what?

Loo

Heheh

Alyoominnium

If course to you we like a-LOO-minnum


sqrtofneg1
+ Show Spoiler +

Seems reasonably in line with newbie games i've played/obs'd with him, although slightly

Odd post time: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed." - Forgive me if I missed the page, but where was this confirmed?

Your vote on Holyflare was about as useful as my vote on Koshi.

+e$ports 20 for the recent geript comment.

Summary: Stay vigilant sqrt, newbie bro. These guys will promise you the world, and just end up taking your bottle-cap collection. (Probably town, but a bit too easily swayed)


Cavalinho

+ Show Spoiler +
You could pretty much pull out in a black Ford Model 18 "V-8" (1932-1934)* and wave your tommy gun around and I still probably wouldn't lynch you today. You're a survivor Cav, I believe in you.

* Thanks GQ slideshow

Oh, actual 'analysis' time?

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 14:12 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 14:09 BlueyD wrote:
Cav why do you think he's scum?


Because he's scum.

And also because he's trying to hide and he's posting a lot of questions aimed at making people feel superior. Hence, he is a mafia trying to get people to ignore him and blend in.


I pretty much fully disagree. Steveling's done anything but try and blend in. The lover's tiff between him and Holyflare is one of the more dominant things that have happened so far. Maybe people will laugh, and maybe I'm overestimating the ability of some of you regulars/overusing my newbie reads, but it doesn't seem massively scummy.

You haven't defecated today.

Summary: Pale Mafia. A light shade of pink.



27ninjabunnies
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to ome out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.



I find the last sentence a little bit contradictory. If you assume that you're in a game with people who will catch slips most of the time, then surely the talkative slippy mafia wouldn't last longer than the lurkers due to the talkative slippy nature of themselves? I don't know, maybe it's just my interpretation of the line, and maybe im understating the {if any) part.


+ Show Spoiler +
If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.


The fuck? It's early in the game, and there's pretty much 0 pressure on you to give out your reads to him. Saying you're then looking at them will surely change their behaviour, rendering the whole thing invalid?

The whole post by matamburini is too big and had too many capitals, so I havent and probably wont read it.


Meapak_Ziphh
+ Show Spoiler +

You still have your vote on me, and i think you've spelled my name about 6 different ways. Apart from me, who do you think's scummy?


bkqyrldp

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't have a clue what to expect from a 2-player player, but his post on how players enters the thread is alright. His quotes on jampidampi back this up. When the game started last night i couldnt really care, and i plan to return to that after this post for today. Previous newbie games i tried hard to analyse everything, and ended up being wrong and getting stressed, so it's carefree all the way for this game.

Erm, summary: Town.


Kitaman27

+ Show Spoiler +
The heart post was funny, not much else in his filter. He hosted my first game, so I always thought he'd be super pro. Kita, warm my little heart and show me you're pro.


I'm bored now and hungry and i suck at analysis and nobody will probably read it ::longpost:: and all. back to short-shitposting for now. I'll talk about others tomorrow.


...that doesn't really say much about anything. He calls Cav a "slight shade of pink", and that's the closest he gets to a scumread. Everything else is a bunch of town reads, null reads, or posed questions. I also really dont' like the last bit of this post...

Show nested quote +
I'm bored now and hungry and i suck at analysis and nobody will probably read it ::longpost:: and all. back to short-shitposting for now. I'll talk about others tomorrow.


... for a number of reasons. Lack of confidence, lack of willingness to do analysis, openly declares intentions to shitpost... meh.


Hapa, have you actually read that post you quoted. It seemed very natural to me with no forced reads and everything he said was very reasonable and from a stream of thought. I really think valenius is towny and moving the lynch off tambu after his suspicious comeback seems wrong. A lot of people seem to be waitng for his return to have an excuse to move their votes off and if anything it made him look worse. I'm way more confident in wos, but between those 2 tamburini is way more likely of actually being scum.

Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 22 2014 17:51 GMT
#2398
So for some reason you guys haven't yet realized that Odin is actually scum. I'm gonna set aside for the moment that, statistically speaking, he is scum, due to RNG. I'm gonna set aside that RNG is actually the best ever this game and that we should lynch him just for that. I think that case stands on its own merits, but clearly you guys disagree. When in rome, as Palmar says

Let's seriously talk about Odin. He enters the thread with an OMGUS on me. He doesn't call it an OMGUS, but let's be 100% real here: it's an OMGUS.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21389332

now what's interesting here isn't the OMGUS itself (which is imo only mildly scummy-- it could come from angry town for example, especially someone who has been pushed while he was legitimately away) but rather the follow up.

Odin has plenty of time without me in the thread. He could be gathering reactions, pushing people to make reads, and generally trying to get me lynched. After all, he thinks I'm scum, doesn't he?

Instead, he mostly jabbers and completely forgets he's pushing me.
On May 22 2014 01:17 OdinOfPergo wrote:
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On May 22 2014 01:11 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2014 01:04 Cavalinho wrote:
On May 22 2014 01:04 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2014 00:54 Cavalinho wrote:
On May 22 2014 00:52 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2014 00:52 Valenius wrote:
On May 22 2014 00:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.

This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.

My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand

The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.

I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.

The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..

Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.

Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.

Why would you be okay with Valenius lynch? Any original reasons?


Sqrt, be my knight in shining armour.

Travelling home now, so ill post properly in a bit.

Fun fact: I took more toilet breaks than I ever have done at work before, just so I could semi-keep up with you all.

Townpile


Explain?

Scum doesnt take bathroom breaks to keep up.


Wtf? Why not?

Because as mafia you can just say. Guys I have had to work all day, I couldn't keep up but here are some ideas of mine: "yabbayabbayabba".

Clearly this guy is so determined to find mafia he hides with his phone on a toilet to analyze posts. Doesn't get more townie than that.


LOL. townpile.

But no, serious the reason I have a problem with Vale is that he doesn't bring all those pooper analysis to the thread!
On May 22 2014 01:25 OdinOfPergo wrote:
I'm just going to say I don't disagree with either of you here.
It's simple.

That comment might get me to re-evaluate my willingness to lynch Vale.
But it's only going to happen when he backs it up with actual results..

What's the problem here?
On May 22 2014 01:30 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Ye, that's all I'm getting at.
I think Cav's getting picky about it when there isn't a reason too.
Because Vale will just never produce results from it..

That post was lols.. If Vale is scum, I really look foward to seeing that qt comment "I know! I'll lie and tell them I was on the toilet!"




Oh yes, later, hours later, he finally remembers he's actually pushing me... and makes this amazing post which convinces and was destined to convince absolutely no-one to lynch me:
On May 22 2014 01:50 OdinOfPergo wrote:
you should totes vote BH Holy.

I'm not really sure on Thrawn.
I think he should be much more apparent in later days though.
I don't want to lynch him today at least.



with no followup. People have been talking about me occasionally, too, and even if not why isn't he pushing his read? his vote sure is on me.

It's only AFTER I re-enter the thread that he starts addressing me more clearly and aggressively. He was fine interacting with other players without pushing his read. Only a proximal notification reminded him, "oh, right, i'm supposed to be tunnelling BH. Oops"

On May 22 2014 02:36 OdinOfPergo wrote:
lol convienent of you to drop by BH.

Thanks for summing it up for me.
I posted my thoughts, elaborated why I thought that way.

So yes, basically, I've done more in like my 5 post than you've managed in 3 pages of filter?

Yet I'm still you're choice of scum?
And you still managed to add nothing else outside of it.
You're not making me sad about where my vote is.






So, I literally call him out for not pushing me

On May 22 2014 02:38 Blazinghand wrote:
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On May 22 2014 02:36 OdinOfPergo wrote:
lol convienent of you to drop by BH.

Thanks for summing it up for me.
I posted my thoughts, elaborated why I thought that way.

So yes, basically, I've done more in like my 5 post than you've managed in 3 pages of filter?

Yet I'm still you're choice of scum?
And you still managed to add nothing else outside of it.
You're not making me sad about where my vote is.





zzz I don't see any pushing or analysis from you, or any follow up. How convenient! you're not pushing your scumread, except when he literally shows up and points out that you're not. Where was your pushing when I wasn't in the thread? sure, youv oted me, but you didn't try to get ANYONE else on the wagon, because as scum you're afraid

afraid of what will happen

afraid to play the game



and here's what he says:

On May 22 2014 02:43 OdinOfPergo wrote:
It hasn't been very long since I came to the thread.

Considering I'm pretty obvious as town..
Also curious how come you don't mention I do this exact same sort of thing every town game?

I mean common.. We just were in a game.. think back I think you can do it.
Now sub out the bullet points I used in that game for - marks... and BAM I'm like playing exactly the same..

So ye, I'm not big flashy going to blow out 15 pages of bs for your lynch.
I want you lynched.
But I will at least give people time to read my case and make opinions for themselves.
I'm not going to blow out 15 pages of spam about useless crap for it.

Until other people comment on it I'm pretty much done explaining this lol..


Odin has been in the thread at this point for hours. Not days, granted-- but hours. He hasn't done ANY follow-up. When I ask him for follow-up, he claism I'm asking for some flashy 15 page thing. That's not what i'm pointing out; what i'm pointing out is that he has voted me but clearly has no actual intention to get me lynched.

So I toy with him. I call him a bad newbie. I try to anger him. If he were really town, he'd leap on me, he'd tear into me, wouldn't he? Wouldn't he, being town, become sure that I'm scum, become angry, lose control?

No, he's completely calm. He doesn't even make a REAL attempt to get people to vote me.

On May 22 2014 03:02 OdinOfPergo wrote:
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On May 22 2014 03:01 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 22 2014 02:57 geript wrote:
On May 22 2014 02:51 kitaman27 wrote:
To make things clear, I don't think "Isaac" would be a good day one lynch in a 30+ player game. I say deal with it later.

In b4 "well who do you want to lynch Kita?".
-Dunno. Will read thread when I'm home from work.

Funny I think a BH is a great lynch.


BH is probably the only player that comes to mind that goes out of his way to promote thread disruption as mafia, which I think he has done this game. I haven't really read any of the nonsense he is pushing though so I'm not sure if he has moved off the RNG stuff yet. Prior to the claim, I would have considered him.

Day 1 lynches on blue roleclaims in large games is generally a no-no, unless they come right before the flip.



Let me answer this for you.

I am still BH sole read this game.
A read he could not of possible of come to at the time he came to it..


...and then he unvotes me.

On May 22 2014 10:16 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Ok I'm just going to unvote for now since this will never happen today.
I freaking hate that you opt out of this with a blue claim to fool around, not do anything, partake in a continueing (since the start of the freaking game) RNG talk.
And make stupid bets that have no relevancy to anything based off of getting me lynched.
Oh and then proceeding to not even really push my lynch.

Austin gets sideways glances from me for prodding BH to continue to post nothingness.
I'm not super sure on Rit but meh, I don't have the time to filter him tonight so hopefully I'll get to that.

Still wouldn't be upset with Ceph, since I don't recall him ever being back yet.
But still curious on his response to that sketchy push on Bunnies.





even though he's still convinced that I'm scum, and that i'm opting out. Instead he talks about "Sideways glances". Where's the anger? Where's even the bitterness at a Vet pretty much literally pulling rank on him to not get lynched?

He doesn't care, cause he's scum.

And what has he done since unvoting me? pretty much nothing.

Oh yes, he has some small interactions

On May 22 2014 22:55 OdinOfPergo wrote:
hmm so much reading.. so little energy.

That's your only issue with that layabout post Holy?
Geez, I find the progressions of his reads rather far-fetched.
But maby that's just me.
Out of anyone who's going to get him lynched I'm suprised by the wtf response he gives.
More so to a player he hasn't really mentioned... ever?




and he jumps on the mtamb wagon

On May 23 2014 00:31 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Ok well, if today's lynch is between Laya/Trambo..

I'll ##vote: mtamburini

If I'm not noncomprehending your previous argument Laya, shouldn't you consolidate on Trambo as-well instead of OMGUS Rit?
Isn't your point that he's trying to either distance himself or bait onto a second bandwagon? To pull attention from Trambo?

Meh, I'm going to sleep. I'm to tired to think clearly anymore.



but that's it. And look at his post, which is just a vote for tamb and some like, lame questions for layabout, coupled with an excuse of sleepiness and fatigue.

Look at that. There's like NO chance the guy is town. He's not even trying, he's hedging, and he reacted exactly like a scum trying to to start a shitfest and just appear involved. Where is his followup? Where are his reads? does anyone know ANYTHING About Odin's reads?

No, and not cause he hasn't been posting. He's been active lurking, making posts that look conversational and analytic, but tell nothing. His behavior doesn't make sense, either between his vote on me and my return to the thread, nor when I was goading him, and honestly not even when he unvoted me. Afterwards he did nothing.

Odin is an amazing lynch. Even if you don't believe in RNG, you have to lynch Odin. Read his filter. Realize he's scum. Vote him.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2014 17:52 GMT
#2399
What about you tell me who you are and I sheep you?
I had a good night of sleep.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 22 2014 17:52 GMT
#2400
On May 23 2014 00:49 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 00:48 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 23 2014 00:45 mtamburini wrote:
Fuck me i gotta read 50 pages since I was last online how the fuck did I get put up for a lynch!

You have also been repeatedly referred to as female


Dafuq who called me a woman


Dat was my doing....

And tehpoofter...

And geript.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
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