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On May 17 2014 06:40 Eden1892 wrote:
We might end up x-posting here, but you still haven't answered the crucial question I keep harping on here -- why would dravernor and dfs set themselves up to be sacrificed from the beginning like this? It requires prescience that I would end up in the final three, which doesn't make sense at all. One, there's no way to know that on D1, and two, scum don't play for a win like that, they try to get as many people to LYLO as they can so they have as much control of the endgame vote as they can. Willfully sacrificing two thirds of their voting power to push one guy to the endgame doesn't make sense.
The only way I can see that you mean they are setting themselves up to be sacrificed from the beginning is that they weren't townreading you, and that if they were townreading you, you might have had more power to sway people. It might not make the most sense to not townread one of your partners, but to me, it's like they're investing in risk. They weren't setting themselves up to be lynched later, but you were the strongest of the two of them (if you are mafia, anyways). If they get lynched, them not townreading you would make you look townie in comparison.
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On May 17 2014 06:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay i want to poit out something, i andwered your questions, eden, and you chose to ignore it! I said that the play of drav and dfs putting slight suspicion towards you towards the end was due to you telling them they needed to. Like i said, it was just a possible scenerio in my mind, they could have done it unintentionally or it could be a play.
As for the sacrifice, no i dont think it was a play from the beginning. Hell, for all i know, they didnt even know you were going to push them in front of a bus. Maybe it just so happened to be that way.
What i was saying os that with suspicion on you, if you get pynched, it buys them credibility as town, if they get lynched, it buys you credibility as town
I didn't choose to ignore it, I explicitly addressed this. You actually ignored it, saying that you didn't know what Occam's Razor was. If you truly don't know what it means then that's one thing, but don't come at me like I didn't address this, 'cause I definitely did.
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I am not the last mafia. I have not been mafia at all this game!
Ive made y case as to why I am town, and epishade points out really great points on you as mafia, something I wish I had time to point out myself! (Stupid roadtrip)!
I cannot stress how much voting on me would lose for town. If you have any lingering suspicion for eden being mafia, then vote him. If i still cant make you see that i am town, vote me.
But i gave it my best with what i had! I honestly wasnt expecting to make it to final 3, and had no defense other than what my actions prove to me as being town. Good luck epi!
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you have less than ten min remember you must vote
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On May 17 2014 06:49 Epishade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2014 06:40 Eden1892 wrote:
We might end up x-posting here, but you still haven't answered the crucial question I keep harping on here -- why would dravernor and dfs set themselves up to be sacrificed from the beginning like this? It requires prescience that I would end up in the final three, which doesn't make sense at all. One, there's no way to know that on D1, and two, scum don't play for a win like that, they try to get as many people to LYLO as they can so they have as much control of the endgame vote as they can. Willfully sacrificing two thirds of their voting power to push one guy to the endgame doesn't make sense. The only way I can see that you mean they are setting themselves up to be sacrificed from the beginning is that they weren't townreading you, and that if they were townreading you, you might have had more power to sway people. It might not make the most sense to not townread one of your partners, but to me, it's like they're investing in risk. They weren't setting themselves up to be lynched later, but you were the strongest of the two of them (if you are mafia, anyways). If they get lynched, them not townreading you would make you look townie in comparison.
It's more than just taking away my power to sway people, they didn't follow me on my attempt to lynch tambo d1 when we'd have been able to kill off a claimed town vig or an sk. I'll double check but I think they only voted with me once, for sqrt on d2, when he was a near-consensus pick. They actively didn't coordinate with me the whole way. You can call it hedging for them being caught, but that's another way to say the same thing I'm meaning -- they're actively sacrificing our ability to coordinate as a team in favor of making me look townie for busing them, and doing all this from the opening day. It just doesn't fit the mafia's goals at all. The mafia's advantage is being able to coordinate. Throwing that away on the off-chance that I make it to 3p LYLO doesn't make sense!
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I ignored the occams razor part because i state twice i had no idea what it meant. If you really wanted me to know, you could have explained it! But dont bring that bs up in here saying i ignored whatever you were talking about if i didnt know what the hell you are talking about
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Sorry Eden.
##Vote: Eden1892
No time to change now anyways.
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eden1892 the mafia goon was lynched town with the guidance of helix has won!
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Gonna be a while. Mod prolly has to rewrite the recap cause he didn't know who was gonna win there for a while :D
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Northern Ireland22203 Posts
Well played! GJ Epi, thought you were gonna throw.
Eden played solidly though, solid posting until the very end
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Omg omg omg!!!! <3 if epishade was mafia i was gonna be sooo salty
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That was a pretty suspenseful finish, didn't know where epishade was going to vote at all.
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