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On April 02 2014 10:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:31 getmoript wrote: I'll talk more about slam later but I'm reevaluating that whole group. His kill me post was really town Slam IMO and you got your read on him from me. I don't like your gumshoe case. I don't hate it but I don't like it. I'll filter both after work. Of course you donät like it because you are prolly mafia. ~rayn God Rayn you are like super fucking infuriating when you don't listen to me. Like I don't really care what your alignment is right now but I'm not going to listen to your scum reads anymore. Like you half bother explaining them and then you always ignore me just like you did on Toad. The sad thing is I'm pretty sure Palmer's going to phone it in and the you and HF are going to drive town into the dirt. Like I'm not sure that you're scum but regardless of your alignment what you're doing is a real dick move and I don't appreciate it.
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On April 02 2014 10:56 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 10:31 getmoript wrote: I'll talk more about slam later but I'm reevaluating that whole group. His kill me post was really town Slam IMO and you got your read on him from me. I don't like your gumshoe case. I don't hate it but I don't like it. I'll filter both after work. Of course you donät like it because you are prolly mafia. ~rayn God Rayn you are like super fucking infuriating when you don't listen to me. Like I don't really care what your alignment is right now but I'm not going to listen to your scum reads anymore. Like you half bother explaining them and then you always ignore me just like you did on Toad. The sad thing is I'm pretty sure Palmer's going to phone it in and the you and HF are going to drive town into the dirt. Like I'm not sure that you're scum but regardless of your alignment what you're doing is a real dick move and I don't appreciate it.
So just to confirm with scum geript here. Plam, rayn, hf confirmed town now right?
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On April 02 2014 10:56 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 10:31 getmoript wrote: I'll talk more about slam later but I'm reevaluating that whole group. His kill me post was really town Slam IMO and you got your read on him from me. I don't like your gumshoe case. I don't hate it but I don't like it. I'll filter both after work. Of course you donät like it because you are prolly mafia. ~rayn God Rayn you are like super fucking infuriating when you don't listen to me. Like I don't really care what your alignment is right now but I'm not going to listen to your scum reads anymore. Like you half bother explaining them and then you always ignore me just like you did on Toad. The sad thing is I'm pretty sure Palmer's going to phone it in and the you and HF are going to drive town into the dirt. Like I'm not sure that you're scum but regardless of your alignment what you're doing is a real dick move and I don't appreciate it. Y do u think u r 1 2 talk.
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On April 02 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:56 getmoript wrote:On April 02 2014 10:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 10:31 getmoript wrote: I'll talk more about slam later but I'm reevaluating that whole group. His kill me post was really town Slam IMO and you got your read on him from me. I don't like your gumshoe case. I don't hate it but I don't like it. I'll filter both after work. Of course you donät like it because you are prolly mafia. ~rayn God Rayn you are like super fucking infuriating when you don't listen to me. Like I don't really care what your alignment is right now but I'm not going to listen to your scum reads anymore. Like you half bother explaining them and then you always ignore me just like you did on Toad. The sad thing is I'm pretty sure Palmer's going to phone it in and the you and HF are going to drive town into the dirt. Like I'm not sure that you're scum but regardless of your alignment what you're doing is a real dick move and I don't appreciate it. So just to confirm with scum geript here. Plam, rayn, hf confirmed town now right? Hate to say but yes I would confirm you three...
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On April 02 2014 11:00 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:On April 02 2014 10:56 getmoript wrote:On April 02 2014 10:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 10:31 getmoript wrote: I'll talk more about slam later but I'm reevaluating that whole group. His kill me post was really town Slam IMO and you got your read on him from me. I don't like your gumshoe case. I don't hate it but I don't like it. I'll filter both after work. Of course you donät like it because you are prolly mafia. ~rayn God Rayn you are like super fucking infuriating when you don't listen to me. Like I don't really care what your alignment is right now but I'm not going to listen to your scum reads anymore. Like you half bother explaining them and then you always ignore me just like you did on Toad. The sad thing is I'm pretty sure Palmer's going to phone it in and the you and HF are going to drive town into the dirt. Like I'm not sure that you're scum but regardless of your alignment what you're doing is a real dick move and I don't appreciate it. So just to confirm with scum geript here. Plam, rayn, hf confirmed town now right? Hate to say but yes I would confirm you three...
Why confirm palmar? List of what he's done :
1. Said this day is shit and he wants to afk it 2. Agrees with rayn that we ashould be scum hunting today 3. Asks to be mayor repeatedly instead
Is that towny to you slam?
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Holyflare yes;
Slam not happy, Balla seems town and LSB too.
gumshoe because he is unreasonably mad at me from the beginning, he also lies and has a completely different stance on "proving towniness" matter than in WHWC game. Steveling didn't say anything yet.
geript makes awful cases, uses bad logic and wants to policy lynch people in a game where you don't need to policy lynch in any situation. prplhz looks okay and Ceph hasn't said anything.
From the last group i have a read on Sentinel in a way or anohter but it's not strong so i don't want to elaborate more on that yet. Palmar could go either way until he talks more and so can Coag.
I'm off to bed so talk more tomorrow.
~rayn
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On April 02 2014 10:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:51 Tehpoofter wrote:On April 02 2014 10:49 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 10:45 Tehpoofter wrote: The summary of the plan Scum hunt outside your group openly and scum hunt inside your group privately until its your lynch day then bring it all out so that mafia has a harder time not connecting with their team. Drop this line of thinking right now. For other people they need to read 3 people in your group to find 1 mafia. For you you need to read only 2 people. You have advantage if you are town. If you share your thoughts on your cell aswell it gives other people a better read on you, which makes it easier for them to read you. Reads like "well this dude is town so this other dude must be scum" are shit and not worth sharing because it hinges on you being town and other people do not know if you are town or not, but legit reads. Always share. Makes my work solving the game much easier. ~rayn I will read my group and am reading my group but posting about it today I find useless and if you don't want to do that thats your prerogative but I think its an awesome idea and I'm going to do it either way cause I think its way more townie to do so. I will give my reads come cell 2 lynch day. Comment on what you think of mdergs. You just said we should auto lynch 100% scum and your read on him weighs into that.
I will not be commenting on what I think you or mderg's alignment is until its day 2's lynch day. I'm looking for scum elsewhere.
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EBWOP: Cell 2's lynch day*
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On April 02 2014 11:08 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:54 Holyflare wrote:On April 02 2014 10:51 Tehpoofter wrote:On April 02 2014 10:49 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 10:45 Tehpoofter wrote: The summary of the plan Scum hunt outside your group openly and scum hunt inside your group privately until its your lynch day then bring it all out so that mafia has a harder time not connecting with their team. Drop this line of thinking right now. For other people they need to read 3 people in your group to find 1 mafia. For you you need to read only 2 people. You have advantage if you are town. If you share your thoughts on your cell aswell it gives other people a better read on you, which makes it easier for them to read you. Reads like "well this dude is town so this other dude must be scum" are shit and not worth sharing because it hinges on you being town and other people do not know if you are town or not, but legit reads. Always share. Makes my work solving the game much easier. ~rayn I will read my group and am reading my group but posting about it today I find useless and if you don't want to do that thats your prerogative but I think its an awesome idea and I'm going to do it either way cause I think its way more townie to do so. I will give my reads come cell 2 lynch day. Comment on what you think of mdergs. You just said we should auto lynch 100% scum and your read on him weighs into that. I will not be commenting on what I think you or mderg's alignment is until its day 2's lynch day. I'm looking for scum elsewhere.
This is really stupid, just don't tunnel on your cell and play like a normal game just w/ the knowledge of 1 mafia per cell.
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If poofer refuses to contribute to HF/mderg's alignment your group goes first.
~rayn
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On April 02 2014 11:08 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:54 Holyflare wrote:On April 02 2014 10:51 Tehpoofter wrote:On April 02 2014 10:49 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 10:45 Tehpoofter wrote: The summary of the plan Scum hunt outside your group openly and scum hunt inside your group privately until its your lynch day then bring it all out so that mafia has a harder time not connecting with their team. Drop this line of thinking right now. For other people they need to read 3 people in your group to find 1 mafia. For you you need to read only 2 people. You have advantage if you are town. If you share your thoughts on your cell aswell it gives other people a better read on you, which makes it easier for them to read you. Reads like "well this dude is town so this other dude must be scum" are shit and not worth sharing because it hinges on you being town and other people do not know if you are town or not, but legit reads. Always share. Makes my work solving the game much easier. ~rayn I will read my group and am reading my group but posting about it today I find useless and if you don't want to do that thats your prerogative but I think its an awesome idea and I'm going to do it either way cause I think its way more townie to do so. I will give my reads come cell 2 lynch day. Comment on what you think of mdergs. You just said we should auto lynch 100% scum and your read on him weighs into that. I will not be commenting on what I think you or mderg's alignment is until its day 2's lynch day. I'm looking for scum elsewhere.
I don't really see you doing that, just pointing out things that you would do "if you were scum". I've pointed out a more than obvious conclusion on someone in our cell that the whole thread is now privy to. Why neglect to comment on that at all? Today is the day we scum hunt. Why hold back information that follows that instead of talking about it?
Connection theories are great but not something you should withold reads on someone very scummy for.
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On April 02 2014 10:56 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 10:31 getmoript wrote: I'll talk more about slam later but I'm reevaluating that whole group. His kill me post was really town Slam IMO and you got your read on him from me. I don't like your gumshoe case. I don't hate it but I don't like it. I'll filter both after work. Of course you donät like it because you are prolly mafia. ~rayn God Rayn you are like super fucking infuriating when you don't listen to me. Like I don't really care what your alignment is right now but I'm not going to listen to your scum reads anymore. Like you half bother explaining them and then you always ignore me just like you did on Toad. The sad thing is I'm pretty sure Palmer's going to phone it in and the you and HF are going to drive town into the dirt. Like I'm not sure that you're scum but regardless of your alignment what you're doing is a real dick move and I don't appreciate it.
What about his scum reads don't you like? I thought you agreed with his Slam read? Do you not like his gumshoe read? If so why? If you're town telling rayn how pissed you are at him doesn't do much good attack his case if you disagree otherwise this post just looks fluffy to me.
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@Gumshoe can you tell me what you think about mderg's filter so far? You seemed to hop on when he talked about steveling (because he answered something intended for someone else), but nothing else. What conclusion are you at right now on him?
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On April 02 2014 11:12 raynpelikonoshi wrote: If poofer refuses to contribute to HF/mderg's alignment your group goes first.
~rayn
I'm fine with that and honestly think its a good idea and stated so in my first post. It really bugs me you don't see my logic. This is the same thing like when I was talking about the lynch at the end of the Titanic game maybe I'm completely wrong but I like my idea.
I'll explain it one last time, if I were scum all I would have to do is just read my own group over and over maybe get in a yelling match with a town in my group over days at a time spend it calling him scum and comment on nothing else so even if I do get flipped as scum I never commented on anyone else in my scum team and town would have gotten one scum but have no real leads from my end as to who to go on next. Where as if I am commenting the first day on people outside my group then get into a match like that on my lynch day I have left behind bread crumbs to find the rest of my scum team. Like this seems simple to me, I'm not saying I'm not scum hunting my group just that you shouldn't scum hunt your group (cause as multiple people have pointed out its the easiest place to read!) publicly the first day but other groups so there is forced connections.
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On April 02 2014 11:20 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 11:12 raynpelikonoshi wrote: If poofer refuses to contribute to HF/mderg's alignment your group goes first.
~rayn I'm fine with that and honestly think its a good idea and stated so in my first post. It really bugs me you don't see my logic. This is the same thing like when I was talking about the lynch at the end of the Titanic game maybe I'm completely wrong but I like my idea. I'll explain it one last time, if I were scum all I would have to do is just read my own group over and over maybe get in a yelling match with a town in my group over days at a time spend it calling him scum and comment on nothing else so even if I do get flipped as scum I never commented on anyone else in my scum team and town would have gotten one scum but have no real leads from my end as to who to go on next. Where as if I am commenting the first day on people outside my group then get into a match like that on my lynch day I have left behind bread crumbs to find the rest of my scum team. Like this seems simple to me, I'm not saying I'm not scum hunting my group just that you shouldn't scum hunt your group (cause as multiple people have pointed out its the easiest place to read!) publicly the first day but other groups so there is forced connections. Nobody is asking you to comment ONLY on your group. We are asking you to comment on your group AND OTHER GROUPS, because we have 5 groups where each one has one mafia. If you are mafia you need to make up a shit read one one person in your group, so yes, it's fucking scummy to not comment on your own group.
~rayn
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On April 02 2014 10:49 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:42 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Tehpoofter yes he is scum. Also Balla looks town and LSB looks okayish (but then again i have really hard time understanding LSB usually in games so maybe this means he is supertown).
~rayn I liked LSB's overview of the analysis of players expected postings cause I don't know everyone so that was townie to me going to check out Balla last time I played with him was the beacon of towniness, going to go check out their filters and see what shows up. As for Slam I'll toss him in probably scummy pile. Also side note your assessment we should lynch the auto scum first is 100% correct and I don't understand why gum was arguing differently. We have more time to assess the people who we don't read well. Like one of them is scum and they will either have to bus the auto scum or try to save them both of which put them in a position where they have to talk about their teammates which is super awkward as scum (THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD ALL BE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE OUTSIDE OUR CELLS TODAY!!)
First off, what was your result of your filter dives on my cell.
Secondly, why is Slam in the scummy pile when you seemed to be leaning more town on him previously:
On April 02 2014 10:36 Tehpoofter wrote:@hydra rayn are you still reading slam as scum? This is my third game with him and he actually seems to be trying... at least "trying" more so than he has in other games. I find him unreadable as is being said and you seem to be doing your typical rayn town thing of going ham (why did you not do this in Dr. Who 2 grrrr) Like this post seems to be hes actually reading people: Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:50 Alakaslam wrote: OH LSB you are the other dude?!?!
Crap
Well so much for my reads. I townread you both.
Crap. and these two posts he trying to extract game relevant info from palmer: Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:02 Alakaslam wrote: Awesome you didn't leave
Palmar can I take your order? Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:05 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 10:03 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 10:02 Alakaslam wrote: Awesome you didn't leave
Palmar can I take your order? yeah I'll have a goodburger The order of cells I mean + Show Spoiler +This is In-N-Out, we use a number system. 1, 2, or 3? All customizations are up to you. Feel free to ask for anything. He seems to be processing the game at least a little idk maybe I'm just noticing it more through the troll after playing a couple games with him but is this something you read as mafia slam? (His filter is still like 80% gibberish)
Even though you call him unreadable. Like this post you call him unreadable but then post conclusions that seem to call him town, and then you call him scum. Which is it and why?
Also. Stop being silly, just comment on everybody and don't tunnel like a normal person instead of refusing to comment on mderg and holyflare.
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I am also going to say this last time poofer and i try to be as clear as possible.
What you are doing is this: You are refusing to comment on the part of the game where it is statistically easiest for you to find mafia if you are town (and therefore prove your townieness) and where it's the hardest for you to hide if you are mafia.
Can you see why it's scummy?
~rayn
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On April 02 2014 11:29 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On April 02 2014 10:42 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Tehpoofter yes he is scum. Also Balla looks town and LSB looks okayish (but then again i have really hard time understanding LSB usually in games so maybe this means he is supertown).
~rayn I liked LSB's overview of the analysis of players expected postings cause I don't know everyone so that was townie to me going to check out Balla last time I played with him was the beacon of towniness, going to go check out their filters and see what shows up. As for Slam I'll toss him in probably scummy pile. Also side note your assessment we should lynch the auto scum first is 100% correct and I don't understand why gum was arguing differently. We have more time to assess the people who we don't read well. Like one of them is scum and they will either have to bus the auto scum or try to save them both of which put them in a position where they have to talk about their teammates which is super awkward as scum (THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD ALL BE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE OUTSIDE OUR CELLS TODAY!!) First off, what was your result of your filter dives on my cell. Secondly, why is Slam in the scummy pile when you seemed to be leaning more town on him previously: Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 10:36 Tehpoofter wrote:@hydra rayn are you still reading slam as scum? This is my third game with him and he actually seems to be trying... at least "trying" more so than he has in other games. I find him unreadable as is being said and you seem to be doing your typical rayn town thing of going ham (why did you not do this in Dr. Who 2 grrrr) Like this post seems to be hes actually reading people: On April 02 2014 07:50 Alakaslam wrote: OH LSB you are the other dude?!?!
Crap
Well so much for my reads. I townread you both.
Crap. and these two posts he trying to extract game relevant info from palmer: On April 02 2014 10:02 Alakaslam wrote: Awesome you didn't leave
Palmar can I take your order? On April 02 2014 10:05 Alakaslam wrote:On April 02 2014 10:03 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 10:02 Alakaslam wrote: Awesome you didn't leave
Palmar can I take your order? yeah I'll have a goodburger The order of cells I mean + Show Spoiler +This is In-N-Out, we use a number system. 1, 2, or 3? All customizations are up to you. Feel free to ask for anything. He seems to be processing the game at least a little idk maybe I'm just noticing it more through the troll after playing a couple games with him but is this something you read as mafia slam? (His filter is still like 80% gibberish) Even though you call him unreadable. Like this post you call him unreadable but then post conclusions that seem to call him town, and then you call him scum. Which is it and why? Also. Stop being silly, just comment on everybody and don't tunnel like a normal person instead of refusing to comment on mderg and holyflare. LSB is scum
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