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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
VOTE COUNT: thrawn2112 (0): VIVAX420 (0): IAmRobik (0): DoNotPanic! (0): Grackaroni (2): IAmRobik, JarJarDrinks sidesprang (2): ShiaoPi (2): QuantumPope (2): ShiaoPi, sidesprang roundabound (2): bumatlarge (0): Mordanis (1): With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch. Only votes in the Voting Thread will be counted! | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
We are lynching ShiaoPi. While I think Round is scum, because there is no town logic whatsoever behind his posting, I could be wrong and this might be how that entity thinks they can scumhunt. I have no intention of dropping them from my scumlist anytime soon because it in no way helps us.Though, what mocsta did was such a vomit-inducing attempt to be clever that he clearly did it idly without thinking it through. I guess that is slightly feasible to justify doing from a town perspective. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT LAST STATEMENT DOESN'T MEAN? THAT I THINK I'M GIVING HIM A TOWN READ. Yes thrawn, I used "is" and "town" in the same sentence, but thats looking at angles, not a read. GET THAT STRAIGHT YOU ILLITERATE BUFFOON. I'm stating there is a chance, so he is not the auto lynch. I was wrong in pushing that sentiment. ShiaoPi is the lynch that would do us the most good. My mouth started watering when I read the bolded part. Sure you can grind it out to WIFOM, but I love how tangible Roundabound made it with this post. On February 16 2014 16:08 Mocsta wrote: nah, my team is vivax420 and irobik giving up cos bum is stopping the mislynch on shiaopi need more Mattchew votes, gogogo I'm not going to pretend to know what this whole post implies, but it's purposefully confusing and it's bad, but not completely uninformative. We were clearly on the road to lynching ShiaoPi. It wasn't until Moc's post that we got off of him. The timing is interesting. Moc accomplished nothing with his claim/un-claim of scum. Everyone knew it wouldn't. I don't think I need to detail that there is very little difference in town voting proclaimed scum and mafia voting proclaimed scum. His arguments against me voting him immediately fall short because my accusations towards him are perfectly acceptable as both alignments. You play against your win-con, I am going to lynch you. It's generically going to be the response that 90% of players give. Trolling indicates that you are trying to trip up someone's thought process, and if you do that intentionally in public, you are encouraging chaotic behavior which is awfully antie-town. There was no fruitful read that came of Moc's claim. Not Gumshoe, not Mattchew, not me. No one. But maybe ShiaoPi. + Show Spoiler + On February 16 2014 23:11 roundabound wrote: if the cases are bad, why is it beyond a newb scum? You lump and categorise players too hard. Mordanis has a small filter: read 1 page. Lets do a post by post: NOT SPOILERED for your Benefit  Red: Noob Card with insult to town thrown in for good measure -> (/sarcasm) cos thats how town likes to correct actions they do not like Blue: First promise of "mega contribution" No conclusion fluff Theory ramble. Null Second promise of "mega contribution" Red: He is a self-proclaimed "novella-case" maker, yet is only producing glimmers of thoughts with no concrete substance. Bold Red: If this is a proven scum mindset, where is the vote? Ironic fluff; considering he has scum reads with no vote... Offers insight on post phrasing for something insignificant; yet, can't reach vote-worthy conclusions on his own reads. Red: Apparently now isn't chasing Robik; but doesnt clear him as town either..... Blue: Not rushed to get a lynch, because waiting for others to do things- -- yet wont produce the mega contributions promised either. Another excuse to not fulfil his own promise Red:The case on Vivax is time-stamp conjecture summarised by cherrypicking "STUFF" that isnt even fleshed out for us simpletons Blue: 3rd promise of more contribution An acceptable point of view. And a solid reason to be unsure of Mordanis alignment. Henceforth I treat this post as null until more flips are given. Why? Scum know who town is. Say Thrawn is town; its an entirely plausible contribution for scum to make (Against a weak/incorrect Vivax case). This is independant of Vivax alignment. Why does this still matter. The game has progressed further; Vivax and his hydra buddy have made more content than pertains to just thrawn; yet mordanis is fixated here talking abotu absolutely nothing else YET NOT PROBING THEM TO ELUCIDATE MORE INFORMATION. Vivax, mordanis is scum QED Please lynch, me falling asleep here. After throwing red reads around on everyone involved, he goes after a single person that was not involved in the entire incident. The case on Mordanis is weak. It's day one and he is being quoted on promising content and lack of a vote. That's it. It isn't good, but it is far from lynch material when there are worse individuals here. Now sidesprang, who I admit is not on my townlist is being pushed. The fact that Round strictly used SS's posts about his claim to procure a reason to vote is mindboggling. It's clearly a null-tell when someone votes for someone who claims scum and asks to be lynched. On February 17 2014 00:49 roundabound wrote: sideprang: Hops on to the claim immediately for policy reasons. But see especially the red part. When the lynch does not gain momentum see what he does. He drops out his scumread/policy (which is weak in the first place) and suddenly wants to lynch someone else. Now this makes no sense, if he feels like we are mafia so strong, why not push the lynch then? He's trying to find a lynch, not mafia. ##unvote ##Vote: sidesprang What a miserable excuse of a vote. I can't believe this hydra has any intention of helping town for the remainder of the game. I'd be more then happy to eat my words and wear the dunce cap if Round can provide a better case and organize town instead of calling it boring because of the nature of IML. We are lynching the person who was stuffed under the Moc claim and forgotten about vote-wise. His name is still getting mentioned but there is no weight put into it at all. ShiaoPi flipping scum will confirm alot for me. And I don't think you people will lynch the hydra as long as you are afraid of getting called names by it. ##unvote ##Vote ShiaoPi | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
~rayn | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
But don't worry. You still bore me. ~moc | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
Bums post reads like classic scum in very guide. Start off with a scum read, then produce reasons to ignore it. Then push othersothers whom ya vote is not in. Yes that's right. Bum advocates shiaopi but no reason yet has a vote on us.how town like do u think? Lol ~moc | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Why don't you go ahead and put your vote on ShiaoPi. You aren't allowed to put it anywhere else. | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
On February 17 2014 08:51 bumatlarge wrote: I would love to lynch you, but apparently you can scum claim and still not die. I'm immune to your tactics boys. Why don't you go ahead and put your vote on ShiaoPi. You aren't allowed to put it anywhere else. U were there in restart. I scum claimed as town.heck I'm the guy that fake claimed doc to lynch the doc. Your sole metric is an action you convey as personally not comprehending. Bad play is not equivocal with scum play. I would have thought a town player that realises that rounds bound is scum, would then filter dive and prove motive behind the rest of play You can't do that and won't do that. I.e. your primary push in the game is pure policy.. Yet here you are trying to tell us how to play the game. What I love is how you comment in the validity of cases. E.g. mordanis You talk with a level of conviction beyond assuming. Disagree? | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
Wow. If I can do that with phone posting, I'm worried what will happen when I get to a comp For the record. Rayn and I are in agreement with the best vote for todaytoday and it is where it is already. | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
I'm doing a "QP" I'm not going to post for 72 hrs and rely on bum to ignore good cases like mordanis or sidesprang. Plus everyone will forget I exist and thus not vote me ~moc | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
(http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436388&user=sidesprang&view=all). I think the difference is as clear as day, in that game his content, insight and opinion is more prevalent for the average post. In this game, he posts jokey stuff, keeps his posting to a minimum and doesn't go out to calling people scum, or pushing targets. Still would like the opinion of other folks. ~V | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
Not just the tone, but that he offers his thoughts willingly When tied in with his lack of care for lynch as rayn has noted and there is zero reason to not lynch sidesprang ~moc | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
Essentially his cop game >>>>> this game Deffo not a good sign for being town ~moc | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442787&user=sidesprang&view=all ~V | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
On February 17 2014 11:21 VIVAX420 wrote: Moc, what can you say to his mafia play then? Do you think it's similar to this game? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442787&user=sidesprang&view=all ~V Off a glance that game is different to this one and titantic. In shadow he's playing classic scum in the sense mainly discussing bad logic in cases made against town. i note that he is hesitant to release information in general though, instead choosing to ask questions to others. The act of withholding informatiom is akin to this game in my opinion One thing of high note is that shadow is a hydra game of sorts so i dobt think its smart to make that game a baseline for hsi scum play | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
##vote: sidesprang This was kinda discussed but sidespringe retracting his vote for roundabout makes no sense: Here he explains how it's a policy vote: On February 16 2014 17:26 sidesprang wrote: Why would we not vote him? On February 16 2014 17:26 VIVAX420 wrote: it feels like he's fake claiming scum. On February 16 2014 17:27 sidesprang wrote: So he's saying that even if he's town, he deserves to be lynched for fake claiming scum.Then he deserves to get policy lynched, and hopefully a ban aswell. So why in the world would he unvote him after round said he was lying? Here's his explaination: On February 17 2014 00:59 roundabound wrote: So why are you not voting for us now? Why did the policy disappear? ~rayn On February 17 2014 01:01 sidesprang wrote: but that makes no sense. He just told us that he deserves to be policy lynched. So the fact that he took the claim away shouldn't have much to do w/ the reason he's voting for him. Especially since:Cause he took the claim away? On February 15 2014 05:08 sidesprang wrote: You'd think that he'd leave his vote on his policy lynch then. It's not like he has some other great read that he really needs to not waste his vote.No I have no scumreads that I feel strongly enough to lynch. | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
The problem I have with your case is that it focuses on "this is what he should have done as town" rather than making observations about playstyle that point towards him being mafia, or weak explanations for his actions. Surely the lack of interest he has in pursuing people is a point, and the fact that he plays completely different from his town meta (but also different from his coached scum meta), but I don't think that as townie, he would have in any case kept going after raynsta. ~V | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
Then he deserves to get policy lynched, and hopefully a ban aswell. Feel free to ignore above post. | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
VOTE COUNT: thrawn2112 (0): VIVAX420 (0): IAmRobik (0): DoNotPanic! (0): Grackaroni (1): IAmRobik, sidesprang (3): ShiaoPi (3): QuantumPope (2): ShiaoPi, sidesprang roundabound (1): bumatlarge (0): Mordanis (1): With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch. Only votes in the Voting Thread will be counted! | ||
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