• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:55
CEST 18:55
KST 01:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo16Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4
StarCraft 2
General
What kind of tool would you be interested in? StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes?
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7531 users

GSL Open Mini Mafia IV - Page 48

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 46 47 48 49 50 96 Next
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:04 GMT
#941
kush, why do you think gumshoe's post is townie or not?
Do you know how he plays, you've been in game with him at least a couple of times lately.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:05 GMT
#942
On February 17 2014 00:04 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 00:03 roundabound wrote:
wait, did we really have 5 votes on us? rofl

~rayn


mocsta did some retarded fake claim while you were gone :\

Well ofc i read that, but why the fuck did people vote?
Like i get bum's vote (not the reasoning which is retarded), but the policy part. But the other votes?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:07 GMT
#943
Fuck sidesprang is terrible. I think we should lynch him.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 16 2014 15:09 GMT
#944
On February 17 2014 00:04 roundabound wrote:
kush, why do you think gumshoe's post is townie or not?
Do you know how he plays, you've been in game with him at least a couple of times lately.

~rayn


I already answered this.

Disclaimer: I have no idea how this guy plays! Maybe I have been in games with him but
1 he is quite forgettable
2 i have terrible memory
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 16 2014 15:17 GMT
#945
On February 16 2014 17:20 gumshoe wrote:
Haro! So I've pretty much blitzed through the thread, but obviously the most recent event eclipses everything that came before it so I've reconfigured most of my reads in light of it. The only reason I can see Moc quitting like he has is if he feels like his scum team has completely failed him, which he straight up acknowledges in the case of Rayn. Gives me the sense that most of his scum team are incompetent and already under pressure. I also dont think hed reveal like this if there were one or two members of his team on at his time of confession, which would be a bit of a dick move, this tentatively clears Grack( who I had pinged as null) thrawn(his posting aggravates me a smidge just like in the last serius game we played, so probs town) and bum, all of whom had decent thread presence and posted within a couple hours of mocstas confession. Bum I especially consider townie because of how seemingly sincere hes been in his attempts to push discussion, case in point this post glows green to my eyes.


It's like he was so convinced that mocsta was telling the truth about being scum. I don't think scum would automatically jump to that conclusion and provide reasoning why scum mocsta would claim scum.
Kush and Vivax
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:28 GMT
#946
On February 17 2014 00:09 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 00:04 roundabound wrote:
kush, why do you think gumshoe's post is townie or not?
Do you know how he plays, you've been in game with him at least a couple of times lately.

~rayn


I already answered this.

Disclaimer: I have no idea how this guy plays! Maybe I have been in games with him but
1 he is quite forgettable
2 i have terrible memory

You should probably start reading posts more carefully and think about the motives behind them if you are town.
gumshoe basically posts whatever he thinks at that time. Look at the Quiet game mini mafia and LXIV, the last couple of his games.

- Quiet game (especially this post): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439654&currentpage=56#1102
D1, 20 minutes before the deadline, gumshoe comes in after mostly lurking the whole phase. Earlier he has been voting for scum. He unvotes CC for dick move analysis (reasonable) and does not comment anything on the vote leader's posts other than "he's bad". Corazon is SURE to get lynched (and will flip mafia), but gumshoe makes a case on WoS. Everyone who has not played with him calls him mafia for that post because it's so bizarre and does not contribute to the lynch in any way. But he is obviously town for it. noone sees it other than me and yamato.

- LXIV: gumshoe starts the game by saying "vote me for mayor because i am so bad". Later on he votes marv for mayor and says "I'm fine with xata dying regardless of my alignment because once he's out of the game I can stop lurking". seriously? haha.

He's mind works in really mysterious ways, but you gotta look after why he does these things.

Now onto this game:
His big post. What's the point of making that post he did as mafia? Why not just state his townreads as town because of obvious reasons noone can call him out for (like saying "they have been pro-active bla bla")?? There is certainly some sort of thought process going through his head and while the post he made looks "tryhard" and "forced" that's how his posts ALWAYS look. While the thought process is bad and relies on Mocsta's scumclaim being real that does not make him mafia.

I am actually pretty sure he is town.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:29 GMT
#947
On February 17 2014 00:17 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 17:20 gumshoe wrote:
Haro! So I've pretty much blitzed through the thread, but obviously the most recent event eclipses everything that came before it so I've reconfigured most of my reads in light of it. The only reason I can see Moc quitting like he has is if he feels like his scum team has completely failed him, which he straight up acknowledges in the case of Rayn. Gives me the sense that most of his scum team are incompetent and already under pressure. I also dont think hed reveal like this if there were one or two members of his team on at his time of confession, which would be a bit of a dick move, this tentatively clears Grack( who I had pinged as null) thrawn(his posting aggravates me a smidge just like in the last serius game we played, so probs town) and bum, all of whom had decent thread presence and posted within a couple hours of mocstas confession. Bum I especially consider townie because of how seemingly sincere hes been in his attempts to push discussion, case in point this post glows green to my eyes.


It's like he was so convinced that mocsta was telling the truth about being scum. I don't think scum would automatically jump to that conclusion and provide reasoning why scum mocsta would claim scum.

Yes, exactly this!

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 16 2014 15:30 GMT
#948
On February 16 2014 11:17 bumatlarge wrote:
Even trolling procures content sometimes... like some as in not much.


funny that he got so pissed at mocsta after he says this.
Kush and Vivax
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:33 GMT
#949
See how sidesprang comments on Grack's scumclaim in Titanic II. Right, he says nothing about it.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:35 GMT
#950
thrawn made a very good post on bumatlarge earlier on. Actually bum deserves another look based on how he tries to over explain the reasons why we are mafia. In fact he reaches to "more likely to be town" in his conclusions.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 16 2014 15:38 GMT
#951
i wasn't reading him as scum, it was an argument
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:39 GMT
#952
On February 17 2014 00:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
i wasn't reading him as scum, it was an argument

yeah i know, but bum's answer is still fishy.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 16 2014 15:46 GMT
#953
On February 17 2014 00:33 roundabound wrote:
See how sidesprang comments on Grack's scumclaim in Titanic II. Right, he says nothing about it.

~rayn


You mean his copclaim? Yes I decided to ignore that shit as I was the cop myself.
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:49 GMT
#954
sideprang:
On February 16 2014 17:26 sidesprang wrote:
Why would we not vote him?

On February 16 2014 17:27 sidesprang wrote:
Then he deserves to get policy lynched, and hopefully a ban aswell.

Hops on to the claim immediately for policy reasons. But see especially the red part.
On February 16 2014 23:45 sidesprang wrote:
I'm up for Mord / QP, pretty much just want to get this lynch over with. This game is so boring.

When the lynch does not gain momentum see what he does.
He drops out his scumread/policy (which is weak in the first place) and suddenly wants to lynch someone else.
Now this makes no sense, if he feels like we are mafia so strong, why not push the lynch then? He's trying to find a lynch, not mafia.

##unvote
##Vote: sidesprang
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 16 2014 15:51 GMT
#955
Stronk case
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:53 GMT
#956
Explain why did you drop the read?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 16 2014 15:54 GMT
#957
Cause your buddy came back
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 16 2014 15:54 GMT
#958
And its not a read, its him scumclaiming and voting himself.
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#959
On February 17 2014 00:54 sidesprang wrote:
And its not a read, its him scumclaiming and voting himself.

So why are you not voting for us now?
Why did the policy disappear?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 16 2014 16:01 GMT
#960
Cause he took the claim away?
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Prev 1 46 47 48 49 50 96 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
16:00
Ro8 M4
Hawk vs Julia
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 426
ByuN 317
SHIN 309
BRAT_OK 55
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 19708
Mini 948
Hyuk 253
firebathero 209
Dewaltoss 119
Soulkey 114
actioN 102
Pusan 42
ToSsGirL 35
Free 32
[ Show more ]
910 25
Movie 23
GoRush 18
Sacsri 13
Counter-Strike
fl0m12761
summit1g10999
byalli782
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor340
Liquid`Hasu311
MindelVK14
Other Games
gofns71235
tarik_tv18361
Grubby3613
singsing2156
B2W.Neo955
Mlord754
FrodaN473
PiGStarcraft390
KnowMe51
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream7253
Other Games
EGCTV1120
WardiTV609
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 63
Other Games
gamesdonequick35
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach38
• Pr0nogo 6
• Michael_bg 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Counter-Strike
• C_a_k_e 2169
• Shiphtur183
Upcoming Events
Patches Events
5m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2h 5m
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
7h 5m
WardiTV Weekly
18h 5m
Monday Night Weeklies
23h 5m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 17h
The PondCast
2 days
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
5 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
Douyu Cup 2020
6 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light HT
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.