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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:04 GMT
#941
kush, why do you think gumshoe's post is townie or not?
Do you know how he plays, you've been in game with him at least a couple of times lately.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:05 GMT
#942
On February 17 2014 00:04 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 00:03 roundabound wrote:
wait, did we really have 5 votes on us? rofl

~rayn


mocsta did some retarded fake claim while you were gone :\

Well ofc i read that, but why the fuck did people vote?
Like i get bum's vote (not the reasoning which is retarded), but the policy part. But the other votes?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:07 GMT
#943
Fuck sidesprang is terrible. I think we should lynch him.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 16 2014 15:09 GMT
#944
On February 17 2014 00:04 roundabound wrote:
kush, why do you think gumshoe's post is townie or not?
Do you know how he plays, you've been in game with him at least a couple of times lately.

~rayn


I already answered this.

Disclaimer: I have no idea how this guy plays! Maybe I have been in games with him but
1 he is quite forgettable
2 i have terrible memory
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 16 2014 15:17 GMT
#945
On February 16 2014 17:20 gumshoe wrote:
Haro! So I've pretty much blitzed through the thread, but obviously the most recent event eclipses everything that came before it so I've reconfigured most of my reads in light of it. The only reason I can see Moc quitting like he has is if he feels like his scum team has completely failed him, which he straight up acknowledges in the case of Rayn. Gives me the sense that most of his scum team are incompetent and already under pressure. I also dont think hed reveal like this if there were one or two members of his team on at his time of confession, which would be a bit of a dick move, this tentatively clears Grack( who I had pinged as null) thrawn(his posting aggravates me a smidge just like in the last serius game we played, so probs town) and bum, all of whom had decent thread presence and posted within a couple hours of mocstas confession. Bum I especially consider townie because of how seemingly sincere hes been in his attempts to push discussion, case in point this post glows green to my eyes.


It's like he was so convinced that mocsta was telling the truth about being scum. I don't think scum would automatically jump to that conclusion and provide reasoning why scum mocsta would claim scum.
Kush and Vivax
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:28 GMT
#946
On February 17 2014 00:09 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 00:04 roundabound wrote:
kush, why do you think gumshoe's post is townie or not?
Do you know how he plays, you've been in game with him at least a couple of times lately.

~rayn


I already answered this.

Disclaimer: I have no idea how this guy plays! Maybe I have been in games with him but
1 he is quite forgettable
2 i have terrible memory

You should probably start reading posts more carefully and think about the motives behind them if you are town.
gumshoe basically posts whatever he thinks at that time. Look at the Quiet game mini mafia and LXIV, the last couple of his games.

- Quiet game (especially this post): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439654&currentpage=56#1102
D1, 20 minutes before the deadline, gumshoe comes in after mostly lurking the whole phase. Earlier he has been voting for scum. He unvotes CC for dick move analysis (reasonable) and does not comment anything on the vote leader's posts other than "he's bad". Corazon is SURE to get lynched (and will flip mafia), but gumshoe makes a case on WoS. Everyone who has not played with him calls him mafia for that post because it's so bizarre and does not contribute to the lynch in any way. But he is obviously town for it. noone sees it other than me and yamato.

- LXIV: gumshoe starts the game by saying "vote me for mayor because i am so bad". Later on he votes marv for mayor and says "I'm fine with xata dying regardless of my alignment because once he's out of the game I can stop lurking". seriously? haha.

He's mind works in really mysterious ways, but you gotta look after why he does these things.

Now onto this game:
His big post. What's the point of making that post he did as mafia? Why not just state his townreads as town because of obvious reasons noone can call him out for (like saying "they have been pro-active bla bla")?? There is certainly some sort of thought process going through his head and while the post he made looks "tryhard" and "forced" that's how his posts ALWAYS look. While the thought process is bad and relies on Mocsta's scumclaim being real that does not make him mafia.

I am actually pretty sure he is town.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:29 GMT
#947
On February 17 2014 00:17 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 17:20 gumshoe wrote:
Haro! So I've pretty much blitzed through the thread, but obviously the most recent event eclipses everything that came before it so I've reconfigured most of my reads in light of it. The only reason I can see Moc quitting like he has is if he feels like his scum team has completely failed him, which he straight up acknowledges in the case of Rayn. Gives me the sense that most of his scum team are incompetent and already under pressure. I also dont think hed reveal like this if there were one or two members of his team on at his time of confession, which would be a bit of a dick move, this tentatively clears Grack( who I had pinged as null) thrawn(his posting aggravates me a smidge just like in the last serius game we played, so probs town) and bum, all of whom had decent thread presence and posted within a couple hours of mocstas confession. Bum I especially consider townie because of how seemingly sincere hes been in his attempts to push discussion, case in point this post glows green to my eyes.


It's like he was so convinced that mocsta was telling the truth about being scum. I don't think scum would automatically jump to that conclusion and provide reasoning why scum mocsta would claim scum.

Yes, exactly this!

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 16 2014 15:30 GMT
#948
On February 16 2014 11:17 bumatlarge wrote:
Even trolling procures content sometimes... like some as in not much.


funny that he got so pissed at mocsta after he says this.
Kush and Vivax
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:33 GMT
#949
See how sidesprang comments on Grack's scumclaim in Titanic II. Right, he says nothing about it.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:35 GMT
#950
thrawn made a very good post on bumatlarge earlier on. Actually bum deserves another look based on how he tries to over explain the reasons why we are mafia. In fact he reaches to "more likely to be town" in his conclusions.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 16 2014 15:38 GMT
#951
i wasn't reading him as scum, it was an argument
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:39 GMT
#952
On February 17 2014 00:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
i wasn't reading him as scum, it was an argument

yeah i know, but bum's answer is still fishy.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 16 2014 15:46 GMT
#953
On February 17 2014 00:33 roundabound wrote:
See how sidesprang comments on Grack's scumclaim in Titanic II. Right, he says nothing about it.

~rayn


You mean his copclaim? Yes I decided to ignore that shit as I was the cop myself.
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:49 GMT
#954
sideprang:
On February 16 2014 17:26 sidesprang wrote:
Why would we not vote him?

On February 16 2014 17:27 sidesprang wrote:
Then he deserves to get policy lynched, and hopefully a ban aswell.

Hops on to the claim immediately for policy reasons. But see especially the red part.
On February 16 2014 23:45 sidesprang wrote:
I'm up for Mord / QP, pretty much just want to get this lynch over with. This game is so boring.

When the lynch does not gain momentum see what he does.
He drops out his scumread/policy (which is weak in the first place) and suddenly wants to lynch someone else.
Now this makes no sense, if he feels like we are mafia so strong, why not push the lynch then? He's trying to find a lynch, not mafia.

##unvote
##Vote: sidesprang
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 16 2014 15:51 GMT
#955
Stronk case
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:53 GMT
#956
Explain why did you drop the read?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 16 2014 15:54 GMT
#957
Cause your buddy came back
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 16 2014 15:54 GMT
#958
And its not a read, its him scumclaiming and voting himself.
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#959
On February 17 2014 00:54 sidesprang wrote:
And its not a read, its him scumclaiming and voting himself.

So why are you not voting for us now?
Why did the policy disappear?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 16 2014 16:01 GMT
#960
Cause he took the claim away?
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
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