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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
On February 16 2014 17:26 sidesprang wrote: Why would we not vote him? On February 16 2014 17:27 sidesprang wrote: Then he deserves to get policy lynched, and hopefully a ban aswell. This is as much as a cop out easy vote as Bum. Factoring in his previous play and complete unwillingness to divulge information, this is most certainly an opportune vote. .. I havent read gumshoe catchup post yet, so not sure how his vote of me ties in yet. .. mattchew vote, cant tell if its a joke or not based on the convo with vivax420. i am more so surprised he dropped his shiaopi read for this. am curious how he follows up. ===== So sidesprang + bum def looking terrible from all this. ~moc | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
On February 16 2014 18:52 thrawn2112 wrote: if bum is being stupid it's because you are enabling him touche; but theres a difference between stupid and try-hard. I felt his arguments fall under "try-hard" and thus are malicious. ~moc | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
as for why rayn hasnt been around, no idea. ~moc | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
u remember rayn is bttb? what you just did has the same effect of what rayn did there. in that game even YOU wanted to lynch him for policy based reasons i understand the logic of people being mafia because they push lynches based on policy, but every now and then someone (in this case you) does something so outrageous that it's impossible to distinguish between mafia policy lynchers and pissed off town policy lynchers | ||
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sidesprang
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thrawn2112
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
bum knows I troll as town. I.emafia lxiv before the restart u could be right about the rage though. will think about that over dinner. as for mordanis, I still prefer side sprang or shiaopi. right now, I actually don't care. just want a lynch to move this game forward. ~moc | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
-extended reasoning tryring to understand mocsta's scumclaim. -his reads have good reasons behind them | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On February 16 2014 19:15 VIVAX420 wrote: gumshoe actually looks pretty town from that megapost. -extended reasoning tryring to understand mocsta's scumclaim. -his reads have good reasons behind them no no no no no no no disagree with every single letter and symbol that you made in that post, down to the 2 "-"s Instead of basing his reads on what has happened so far, he just uses "roundabound is scum" to create reads on every other player. WTF? That's not town. That's mafia jumping on something and building fake reads based off of incorrect information. | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
On February 16 2014 19:50 thrawn2112 wrote: kush can you explain the shiaopi meta stuff from earlier he is kind of playfully aggro at the beginning of the game. For a lot of people this is an automatic towntell but shiaopi does the same EXACT thing as scum. He is very comfortable calling people scummy early game for very little reasoning as scum. Scum shiaopi is a dbag. He's is very accusatory and he insults people. Town shiaopi is contemplative and not very quick to call people scum. At least some of that is true. I didn't do a ton of meta research. But just reading some of his scum and town games, you can see his tone is totally different and this game he has an unmistakably scummy tone. | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
On February 16 2014 19:05 thrawn2112 wrote: does anyone think mordanis is town Currently going with either very biased townie or scum. Not sure yet. His whole case on me is based on the premises that 1. You are town (considering how he found us suspicious for attacking you when he shouldn't know your alignment, something that I think scum is more likely to do) 2. Me and Robik are scum together, and that very early in the game. He doesn't say it out loud when asked by thrawn (I'll mention that soon), but it seems to be what he thought when he posted: it feels like teamwork or opportunistic scum play... Gonna tell you what I don't like: + Show Spoiler + On February 13 2014 09:06 Mordanis wrote: I've got to go to class for a while, but before I go, I just wanted to elaborate on my previous feelings. I think the abortive case had some momentum for a second against thrawn is very suspicious. The way Rob voted for Thrawn for lurking, and then !Hey Presto!, vivax comes in showing that thrawn is apparently well known for being lurky as scum, well it all seems very wrong. vivax backed down almost immediately, and Rob stayed the course until thrawn started talking. Now vivax left without any more reads after that. Rob did the *exact* opposite, posting a lot and picking up a read (based on thrawn's thoughts and a joke). Essentially what I'm trying to say here is that the behavior between the two of these definitely warrants more investigation. On vivax I really don't like the way that vivax posted fluff, gave someone else evidence to start a case, and then left it all alone for everyone else to take care of, and then disappeared right afterwards. And then there's this post: vivax goes from one hell of a scum read on thrawn (without really pushing anything) to one hell of a town read on Robik (without telling us why). In short, vivax seems incredibly confident about being right but hasn't really done anything useful aside from helping another player make a case. That seems like as much of a scum mindset as you can get. I think the abortive case had some momentum for a second against thrawn is very suspicious. The way Rob voted for Thrawn for lurking, and then !Hey Presto!, vivax comes in showing that thrawn is apparently well known for being lurky as scum, well it all seems very wrong. vivax backed down almost immediately, and Rob stayed the course until thrawn started talking. Now vivax left without any more reads after that. Rob did the *exact* opposite, posting a lot and picking up a read (based on thrawn's thoughts and a joke). Essentially what I'm trying to say here is that the behavior between the two of these definitely warrants more investigation. I see the bolded observations, but no conclusion that would make sense. Only "gotta take a closer look at this". What I find alarming is that he doesn't draw conclusions from the part where me and Rob have opposite reactions. I don't understand why he would mention it if it has no weight on his conclusions. If anything it should convey that Rob is town and I am scum, but he ends the post in a way that doesn't fit. "Look here, this guy reacts the exact opposite" "Well, this needs further investigation". On February 13 2014 23:58 Mordanis wrote: I'm not going after Robik at present. I felt something was off between the two that warranted further investigation, which has led me to believe that vivax is the scummier of the two. Right now, I'm not exactly feeling incredibly rushed to get a lynch in the next few hours, so I'm curious to see the way kush plays vivax. The way in which he answers you here completely misses the point. You wanted to know if he thinks me and robik are scum together, or if he thought that it could have been robik alone. He delivers a pretty nervous answer, something inbetween: "I think they both looked scummy, but Vivax scummier, but I want to see how Kush plays". From all of this I'm kinda getting the feeling that his suspicions are fabricated. Later he even gets interested into your meta, when at start he disregarded it to attack me and Robik. It's like his interest into you awakened once people called out his lack of suspicion towards you. On February 14 2014 16:54 Mordanis wrote: As per my last post, could someone who knows thrawn let me know if this isa reasonable case or not? Why couldn't he ask if somebody can confirm that playstyle of yours at the start of the game? Instead he preferred to attack us, but later posts this: I thought (and still do) that, if there is a strong meta case against someone who has played many games on TL, there will be several games that will show this pattern, and multiple people will be able to verify that the meta case is reasonable. An opinion that is not consistent with the way he treated that meta information earlier. I think that he changed his behaviour in this category (how he treats thrawn and the meta arguments) upon being called out for not suspecting thrawn enough during his early attacks (by me and thrawn himself). Rayn then tried to shut down the argument by asking me why I don't suspect him for doing the same. Except that Rayn called the meta case shit in the first place, while Mordanis completely ignored it (in contrast to his official opinion on meta) and went for connection- and timing-based stuff. ~V | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
On February 16 2014 20:52 VIVAX420 wrote: Moc, why did you want to lynch Shiao again? Can't remember. I like the stuff Vivax posted on Mordanis though. Either terribly bad, or scum struggling to make meaningful posts. At this stage, I don't care if hes terribly bad, so gonna go with scum. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mordanis Lets just get a hammer on someone. ~moc | ||
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roundabound
Niue881 Posts
On February 13 2014 03:07 Blazinghand wrote: Day 1 Its almost 4 days since day1 started. just lynch someone already. ~moc | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
On February 16 2014 21:41 roundabound wrote: Can't remember. I like the stuff Vivax posted on Mordanis though. Either terribly bad, or scum struggling to make meaningful posts. At this stage, I don't care if hes terribly bad, so gonna go with scum. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mordanis Lets just get a hammer on someone. ~moc he is a newbie who hasn't played in a very long time. | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
He is a super noob. Yes his cases are bad but newb scum would not be able to make those cases. | ||
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