On February 16 2014 16:08 Mocsta wrote:
nah, my team is vivax420 and irobik

giving up cos bum is stopping the mislynch on shiaopi

need more Mattchew votes, gogogo

I wasn't not going to lynch shiaopi until you said something.

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

February 16 2014 08:20 GMT

#868

Haro! So I've pretty much blitzed through the thread, but obviously the most recent event eclipses everything that came before it so I've reconfigured most of my reads in light of it. The only reason I can see Moc quitting like he has is if he feels like his scum team has completely failed him, which he straight up acknowledges in the case of Rayn. Gives me the sense that most of his scum team are incompetent and already under pressure. I also dont think hed reveal like this if there were one or two members of his team on at his time of confession, which would be a bit of a dick move, this tentatively clears Grack( who I had pinged as null) thrawn(his posting aggravates me a smidge just like in the last serius game we played, so probs town) and bum, all of whom had decent thread presence and posted within a couple hours of mocstas confession. Bum I especially consider townie because of how seemingly sincere hes been in his attempts to push discussion, case in point this post glows green to my eyes.

"It seems like you have a stronger read on Vivax then you do QuantomPope. Can you respond to what he has said. I would appreciate if you two(three?) would hash out what you think of each other. I'm in the same boat with your scum list, but because you don't go into much detail, I can't benefit from what you think!"

An attempt at getting a contribution out of a player whose likely to be lynched comes off as a weird scum play, unless that scum player is totally confident that the townie will provide misinformation. Something I dont think a scum bum would count on.

Vivax also posted within range of the confession, but even disregarding that I honestly cant believe Mocsta would quit like this if he had Vivax on his team. Same reasoning applies to rob.

Which leaves a pool of six within which lies the last two scum.

1:Shiapi: Has done extremely little for town, that much hasnt changed, Round hasnt really said much on him all game long, usually deflecting questions or arguments against him onto someone else, only once he became the clear lynch did Moc/rayn hop on the wagon faithfully. A shiapi scum partner would def fit the bad scum team narrative.

2:Mattchew: Posts a bunch of one liners, mostly comments on others reads, has a relative amount of heat on him, thread presence low to medium. I dont think hes scum with shiapi unless shiao called his mother a goat or something. Although that would explain Mocs exasperation with his team, meh.

3: Quantom Pope: Extremely low content, could definitely see Mocsta getting pissed about being with this guy.

4:Mordanis: His early posts look like they have some actual, albiet befuddled, thought to them but his targets are odd, and bieng reasonable more often than not does not translate to bieng townie. He goes after Rob and Vivax, two relatively green players at the time, strange choices even if you take into account the volatile nature of any games start. Another odd thing is Rounds hard defense of him.

"I think Mordanis has about the best posts in thread. Yes they are worded a bit awkwardly and idk what that means. He can answer for himself about that. The "brb gonna go write a wall of text case against everyone" is an obvious joke and everyone should be able to realise it.."

at the time Mordanis had done a decent amount of contribution, but it's odd just how far Round sticks his neck out for him, going so far as to call his posts the best thread... Not even sure if Rayn's the kinda player to do that if they were buddies. Could just as well be post flip posturing on a possible lynch target, a motive backed up by Rayns willingness to change his stance on Mord as scum got more desperate for a lynch. Definitely a frustrating scum partner to have, so Mord does fit the terrible scum team theory.

5: Sidesprang: Not much of a contributor, but reads townie to me . Him asking for my replacement seems like a pretty unscummy thing to do, scum would want my slot to stay inactive as long as possible, yet here he is pretty much begging for a real contributor. Also his asking for a townie certificate... Considering the dark green and bloody history of Coag's accursed emblem, seems pretty brazen. Oh and his first vote, although a light hearted one, was on Mocsta... yeah maybe hes scum? Extremely reckless if thats the case, doesn't ultimately read red to me.

6: Jar Jar: least scummy of the bunch, has his own thoughts, pushes his own reads, generally helps town, I can elaborate if anyone likes but if you read through his filter you can see that although sherlock he aint, hes certainly doing more for town than anyone else on this list,(admittedly not saying much.)

Thats all for now, if anyone has any questions, I'll answer them tomorrow, it's been a long day, gl and good night town.

Oh and regardless of all this, no reason to not vote round. Hurray for free lynch!

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

February 16 2014 08:21 GMT

#869

stop voting roundabound

Ange777

Germany1164 Posts

February 16 2014 08:22 GMT

#870

VOTE COUNT:

thrawn2112 (0): ~~IAmRobik~~
VIVAX420 (0): ~~thrawn2112~~, ~~Grackaroni~~, ~~ShiaoPi~~
IAmRobik (0): ~~roundabound~~
DoNotPanic! (0): ~~roundabound~~
Grackaroni (2): IAmRobik, JarJarDrinks
sidesprang (1): ~~roundabound~~, Grackaroni, ~~VIVAX420~~
ShiaoPi (1): ~~bumatlarge~~, ~~VIVAX420~~, ~~Mattchew~~, ~~roundabound~~, ~~sidesprang~~, ~~thrawn2112~~, VIVAX420
QuantumPope (1): ShiaoPi
roundabound (4): roundabound, Mattchew, sidesprang, bumatlarge

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch. Only votes in the Voting Thread will be counted!

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 16 2014 08:26 GMT

#871

Why would we not vote him?

VIVAX420

556 Posts

February 16 2014 08:26 GMT

#872

it feels like he's fake claiming scum.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

February 16 2014 08:27 GMT

#873

I don't know, mocsta played restart basically by himself most of the game. He never got mad at teammates for doing stupid things. He was a very resilient scum, and this is a complete turnaround. He's probably sick of rolling scum? I think we should make sure that Rayn actually hasn't gone AWOL, thought I don't know what he could say. Whatever, emotions i guess.

Feel free to hammer raycsta

sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

February 16 2014 08:27 GMT

#874

Then he deserves to get policy lynched, and hopefully a ban aswell.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

February 16 2014 08:30 GMT

#875

someone who is under no suspicion asks to be lynched and you think it's a good idea to indulge them? really?

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

February 16 2014 08:33 GMT

#876

On February 16 2014 17:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
someone who is under no suspicion asks to be lynched and you think it's a good idea to indulge them? really?

Their is a big difference in asking to be lynched and claiming scum. I would consider asking to be lynched a null tell because it's TL mafia, but you can't say "I'm scum claiming" and not hinting at a joke whatsoever. Don't get me wrong, Rayn likes to be stupid to prove a point in dramatic ways, but I doubt they went over what mocsta just said as idle lynch bait.