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On February 16 2014 13:14 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 13:12 VIVAX420 wrote:
and mocsta wtf you dont wan tto lynch shiaopi anymore? I'm bored and over this game. Rayn hasnt been in the qt for over 24hrs, and the thread is going no where. I cant force people to post; yet now we are all trying to hold hands in a circle singing kum-bay-yah. I am scum claiming. Please lynch us. ~moc
That's not a post you throw together as a joke. Especially if you leave the thread afterwards. You have a theory about lynch bait? You think Rayn is not Afk?
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thrawn this is all your fault for wanting to wait and not hammering shiaopi
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WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING. UNVOTE ROUNDABOUND!
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I want to lynch gumshoe more than anyone else in this thread right now
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On February 16 2014 17:42 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 13:14 roundabound wrote:On February 16 2014 13:12 VIVAX420 wrote:
and mocsta wtf you dont wan tto lynch shiaopi anymore? I'm bored and over this game. Rayn hasnt been in the qt for over 24hrs, and the thread is going no where. I cant force people to post; yet now we are all trying to hold hands in a circle singing kum-bay-yah. I am scum claiming. Please lynch us. ~moc That's not a post you throw together as a joke. Especially if you leave the thread afterwards. You have a theory about lynch bait? You think Rayn is not Afk?
you can't lynch rayn because he stopped playing, remember restart?
>>>>Rayn hasnt been in the qt for over 24hrs, and the thread is going no where.
>>>>I cant force people to post; yet now we are all trying to hold hands in a circle singing kum-bay-yah
these are both townie reasons to be bored of a game. so yes, the "i am scum claiming" is definitely a joke
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While I would have not opted to lynch roundabout anytime soon, you can't say he's the townie player just because it's a hydra with two vet heads. They pushed robot, then he shat townieness ok can't lynch. They pushed donotpanic, he shat townieness, nope no good either. It already did us enough good that we can punish roundabound for scum claiming. If they come back and discuss it, I certainly will listen, but not lynching Round is not in the cards for us right now.
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i've typed up aboput 5 posts and none of them fall within the reasonabl limit of flaming
i don't know what to say
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You realize how ban worthy this is regardless of their alignment? You are able to force yourself to get lynched in any game at anytime with scum claiming, and barring some power, it's almost always bad for your side. He's not joking, he may be being a defeatist and a drama queen, but that justifies nothing.
Is he waiting to post something game changing when he hits 6 votes? You think "we've figured out the scum team, and the only way to prove it is to get lynched right now!", which no one can be that sure, sounds like a reasonable thing to do? You think mocsta/Rayn have already dubbed the town as hopeless in a joint agreement, and have decided that they need to go against the entire spirit of the game to show us how dumb we are?
Stop insulting yourself and us by thinking this is rational. This is condescending and revolting no matter what these two think they are doing. They are going to get lynched, but if at least one of them doesn't want to face TL mafia exile, which they very well might, they need to come back, apologize, and play the rest of the game out as best as they can.
I'm not having this shit.
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On February 16 2014 18:03 bumatlarge wrote:
They pushed robot, then he shat townieness ok can't lynch. They pushed donotpanic, he shat townieness, nope no good either. It already did us enough good that we can punish roundabound for scum claiming. If they come back and discuss it, I certainly will listen, but not lynching Round is not in the cards for us right now.
what is scummy about pressuring people until they shit towniness?
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On February 16 2014 18:16 bumatlarge wrote:
You realize how ban worthy this is regardless of their alignment? You are able to force yourself to get lynched in any game at anytime with scum claiming, and barring some power, it's almost always bad for your side. He's not joking, he may be being a defeatist and a drama queen, but that justifies nothing.
Is he waiting to post something game changing when he hits 6 votes? You think "we've figured out the scum team, and the only way to prove it is to get lynched right now!", which no one can be that sure, sounds like a reasonable thing to do? You think mocsta/Rayn have already dubbed the town as hopeless in a joint agreement, and have decided that they need to go against the entire spirit of the game to show us how dumb we are?
Stop insulting yourself and us by thinking this is rational. This is condescending and revolting no matter what these two think they are doing. They are going to get lynched, but if at least one of them doesn't want to face TL mafia exile, which they very well might, they need to come back, apologize, and play the rest of the game out as best as they can.
I'm not having this shit.
I translate this as
""blah blah i'm so mad at mocsta.... i'm beginning to think he's town but that makes me even more mad at him so i'm not going to worry about if he's scum and instead i'll mindlessly talk about policy lynching until he's lynched"
is what he is doing banworthy? that is something that can be dealt with after the game. right now all you need to worry about is lynching mafia
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On February 16 2014 18:18 VIVAX420 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 18:03 bumatlarge wrote:
They pushed robot, then he shat townieness ok can't lynch. They pushed donotpanic, he shat townieness, nope no good either. It already did us enough good that we can punish roundabound for scum claiming. If they come back and discuss it, I certainly will listen, but not lynching Round is not in the cards for us right now. what is scummy about pressuring people until they shit towniness?
If you are trying to fit a meta and you end up doing more harm then good for your side? I thought what rayn and mocsta did pressure wise had fantastic results, but who is to say this strictly a town tell? You don't think a scum Rayn who isn't yelling questions at every little thing someone does to generate a response would be an obvious meta alarm?
Their is such a thing as benefitting town too much as mafia. It's a null tell most of the time, but before the scum claim, I wasn't super concerned with what Round was, because the hydra had already done a lot for town. You have to lynch people that drag the town backwards early. That why policy lynches and mislynches happen early. There is too much WIFOM in going after people who are protown because it makes them look good.
I'm saying that we can't cancel out a scum claim with protown prescence. It's a whole different scale.
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so your case against them is
1 rayn fits his town meta exactly, therefor he is mafia
2 typing the words "I am scum claiming" is some magical spell that auto-confirms the poster as scum
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On February 16 2014 18:21 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 18:16 bumatlarge wrote:
You realize how ban worthy this is regardless of their alignment? You are able to force yourself to get lynched in any game at anytime with scum claiming, and barring some power, it's almost always bad for your side. He's not joking, he may be being a defeatist and a drama queen, but that justifies nothing.
Is he waiting to post something game changing when he hits 6 votes? You think "we've figured out the scum team, and the only way to prove it is to get lynched right now!", which no one can be that sure, sounds like a reasonable thing to do? You think mocsta/Rayn have already dubbed the town as hopeless in a joint agreement, and have decided that they need to go against the entire spirit of the game to show us how dumb we are?
Stop insulting yourself and us by thinking this is rational. This is condescending and revolting no matter what these two think they are doing. They are going to get lynched, but if at least one of them doesn't want to face TL mafia exile, which they very well might, they need to come back, apologize, and play the rest of the game out as best as they can.
I'm not having this shit. I translate this as ""blah blah i'm so mad at mocsta.... i'm beginning to think he's town but that makes me even more mad at him so i'm not going to worry about if he's scum and instead i'll mindlessly talk about policy lynching until he's lynched" is what he is doing banworthy? that is something that can be dealt with after the game. right now all you need to worry about is lynching mafia
Don't be naive. I may be a bit heated, but you know I always project both sides, and come to a conclusion. The only reason I'm considering Round as town is because it's against his win condition from both alignments. I'm fairly certain he's going to flip scum, and he's going to need a ban. It's completely unfair to his scum team no matter who they are.
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On February 16 2014 18:35 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm fairly certain he's going to flip scum, and he's going to need a ban. It's completely unfair to his scum team no matter who they are.
##Unvote
##Vote: Bumatlarge
It worked. Dem sharks always like to hover around the fresh smell of green blood.
sigh, too easy Bum. Completely fallacious arguments you are marking.
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On February 16 2014 18:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
so your case against them is
1 rayn fits his town meta exactly, therefor he is mafia
2 typing the words "I am scum claiming" is some magical spell that auto-confirms the poster as scum
You are being extradonarily contrary for whatever reason, because you know them well. You are letting your bias cloud something very simple.
1) I'm saying Rayns meta should be a null tell, and it being naturally protown, he has to choose anti-meta or anti-town. I never say it's scummy, I'm merely stating that it should be null tell, not a town tell. I would never lynch a Rayn doing his usual thing because it helps town, as is evident in this very thread. I'm also going to give him the credit that he would be able to do it as mafia if it was in is best interest. I don't think if be able to tell, and in both cases, he should he will survive longer as long as he never over extends imitating his own play. I think that's something reasonable he would agree with.
2) Yes! You can't say that. It's completely unnecessary as town unless it's obviously implied. I'm usually good on picking up on these things, and this appears completely serious to me. How many times have you had to tell a newer player about a joking interaction? You don't think with the varied player base here mocsta wouldn't make it abundantly clear that he was joking? And pray tell, what alterior motive would justify this?
I need to sleep, and I'm not taking my vote off.
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LOl.. like bum goes.
as scum, he played restart by himself. hes super resiliant.
Now, suddenly I am scum and give up.... LOl.. so much bad bum.. too desperate.
~moc
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On February 16 2014 18:47 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 18:35 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm fairly certain he's going to flip scum, and he's going to need a ban. It's completely unfair to his scum team no matter who they are.
##Unvote
##Vote: BumatlargeIt worked. Dem sharks always like to hover around the fresh smell of green blood. sigh, too easy Bum. Completely fallacious arguments you are marking.
Don't do this.
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On February 16 2014 17:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
explain this to me. explain why you think rnd is mafia. i refuse to accept the logic of "it's impossible to jokingkly fake scum claim how mocsta did"
You of all people would have seen I wrote
"I am scum"
clearly, it was a fake claim, when prior i wrote
"I'm bored."
~moc
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On February 16 2014 18:47 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 18:35 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm fairly certain he's going to flip scum, and he's going to need a ban. It's completely unfair to his scum team no matter who they are.
##Unvote
##Vote: BumatlargeIt worked. Dem sharks always like to hover around the fresh smell of green blood. sigh, too easy Bum. Completely fallacious arguments you are marking.
if bum is being stupid it's because you are enabling him
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