EPTThe simplest answer is you're townie and your defense is true.
I'm looking forward to your reads.
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suki
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The simplest answer is you're townie and your defense is true. I'm looking forward to your reads. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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Balla24
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suki
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Aquanim
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On February 08 2014 01:29 Hopeless1der wrote: At a skim, he goes from JayB->JonnyLaw->me->Suki->sidesprang. Can't sit still, pursuing everything he sees for the most part. He completely glances over JonnyLaw and me, but volunteered reads/reasons for the other 3. I think he's town. On February 09 2014 02:52 Hopeless1der wrote: @Sprang its precisely how he did it that gives me a townread on Oats. I have no idea why this gives you a townread on Oats. I'd appreciate a fuller explanation. On February 09 2014 11:12 Hopeless1der wrote: When oats voted suki he found something about betraying a scum mindset. I has likes that a lot at the time. Oats voted for suki twice, I'm not sure to which time you're referring: On February 07 2014 12:31 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah oh shit Suki does nothing about the case JayB posted, she never comments on it at all, just says its too tryhard and therefore scummy. Oh thats bad. She literally says nothing on whether the case was good/bad or why and whether koshi is town/scum or why. Just shits on it because its early in the game? ##vote Suki This post is more-or-less accurate. In the hypothetical case where Oats is scum and Suki is town, I can easily see Oats jumping on this though. On February 07 2014 15:11 Oatsmaster wrote: what. I think you dont understand the meaning of 'objectively' scummy. You havent explained anything about his tryhardness making him scum or why his case was bad, or why his stuff is forced. Like half this shit is subjective. ##VOTE SUKI WAGON OF JUSTICE THIS post, however, is pretty shitty. Suki had in fact tried to explain why she saw JayB's tryhardness as scummy, and had briefly explained why the Koshi case was bad (not that it needed explaining, hence why I'm comfortable with it being brief). + Show Spoiler + On February 07 2014 13:51 suki wrote: Regarding people's concerns that I'm not scum hunting, I was just having fun at the beginning of the game. So, you can decide if I'm scum hunting or not going forward. I skimmed JayB's case and didn't like it. I don't see the point in meta reading someone off of their pre-game content, or meta reading them 2 hours into the game as the game is still getting started. What threw me off was that he put in a ton of effort trying to find every little thing he could in order to paint Koshi as scum. He basically became super sure that Koshi was scum off of a weak case. He had already stated that he was going to scum hunt and he was hunting so hard it just felt forced and contrived. In other words, I didn't care about the case that he made, or the fact that it was made early, I cared about what motivations he could have had when making that case. Does it make more sense for town to hard tunnel someone off a weak case and try to make them look scummy, or does it make more sense for scum? The fact that the case was made so early is just a bonus point against a town scum-hunting mindset. In my opinion, it's more scummy to take this line of action. Thus I voted Jay. On Koshi Koshi has talked the talk. He just needs to walk the walk. His attitude is different in this game than last. He's more confident and more 'willing' to be active and contribute. If he doesn't hold up his end of the deal then he's an easy lynch. Other than that he hasn't done anything so I am waiting for his contributions when he returns. Furthermore, making a subjective case is not a scumtell and I have no idea why Oats would think it is. tl;dr I am not in any way convinced of Oats' towniness by his reasons for voting Suki. | ||
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Aquanim
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
@aqua okay let's do it this way, we try to lynch oats and see what happens. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On February 10 2014 07:41 Hopeless1der wrote: I'll quote and reply to you when I get home balla. @aqua okay let's do it this way, we try to lynch oats and see what happens. Look, if you reckon Oats is town then convince me. I don't have some huge scumread on him at the moment, I just don't have any good reason to think he's town. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On February 10 2014 07:51 Hopeless1der wrote: If you don't want to lynch him then why bother defending him? Fair point. I haven't decided who I want to lynch today. If it ends up being Oats we'll revisit this. | ||
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Balla24
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On February 10 2014 08:00 Aquanim wrote: Fair point. I haven't decided who I want to lynch today. If it ends up being Oats we'll revisit this. No it's not a fair point. I thought you and I were on the same wavelength here but apparently not lol. If another player thinks your town read of someone is not solid then you need to explain that town read. Having a town read that you can not convince others of being solid is scummy. Even if they might disagree on the reasoning, but as long as it is solid then that's where the conversation can end. Aquanim thinks your town read of Oats is no good, therefore you might be scummy for that, especially if you cant more in-depthly explain. | ||
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Balla24
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Aquanim
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On February 10 2014 08:04 Balla24 wrote: No it's not a fair point. I thought you and I were on the same wavelength here but apparently not lol. If another player thinks your town read of someone is not solid then you need to explain that town read. Having a town read that you can not convince others of being solid is scummy. Even if they might disagree on the reasoning, but as long as it is solid then that's where the conversation can end. Aquanim thinks your town read of Oats is no good, therefore you might be scummy for that, especially if you cant more in-depthly explain. You have a good point too, but still my conversation with Hopeless will be much more productive once I have an argument of my own, one way or another, on Oats. I'll go see about doing that now. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On February 10 2014 08:04 Balla24 wrote: No it's not a fair point. I thought you and I were on the same wavelength here but apparently not lol. If another player thinks your town read of someone is not solid then you need to explain that town read. Having a town read that you can not convince others of being solid is scummy. Even if they might disagree on the reasoning, but as long as it is solid then that's where the conversation can end. Aquanim thinks your town read of Oats is no good, therefore you might be scummy for that, especially if you cant more in-depthly explain. The sun is blue. Discuss. | ||
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Aquanim
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Balla24
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Aquanim
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On February 10 2014 10:14 Balla24 wrote: So Aquanim. Which of jay and suki is town? I reckon they both are town. I'm not completely positive on either of them, though. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On February 10 2014 09:09 Aquanim wrote: @Oatsmaster: You had a scumread on Suki in the earlier part of Day 1. Why did you drop it and what is your read on Suki now? I dropped it cause I wasnt sure and there was like 0 support for it anyway. I still think she is scummy although maybe as scum she wouldve hard defended. In any case, I wont lynch her before sidesprang.. ##vote sidesprang | ||
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Balla24
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On February 10 2014 10:49 Aquanim wrote: I reckon they both are town. I'm not completely positive on either of them, though. Reasoning please. Oats, same question to you. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
They both arent scum. Jay town because I feel like he wouldnt really have such a long explanation for being afk. suki scum for pushing jay when she got no support the whole day. | ||
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