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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 10 2014 02:29 GMT
#1101
I don't see it, please quote.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 02:31 GMT
#1102
the entire first page of my filter.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 02:32 GMT
#1103
oops the second half after I 180.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 02:33 GMT
#1104
I dunno man, I really dont feel like putting in the effort to do something that doesnt lead to us lynching scum.
No gg, No skill.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 10 2014 02:37 GMT
#1105
You mean this? This is all I see:

On February 07 2014 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Jay is scummy scum scum.

Although he seems to really believe in this.

The thing with his case on Koshi is that you cant make the case 3 hours into day 1. It doesnt work, not enough evidence. But is it too bad to be scum? Still making up my mind on that.

Wafflingggg


On February 07 2014 11:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:38 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 11:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why were you even commenting on his first post? You thought he wrote it after he got his alignment?

It is day 1. What else do you do besides make small talk till you find someone who you think is scummy.

BUT HE WROTE IT PREGAME. LIKE YOU DONT TALK ABOUT PREGAME DURING THE GAME DO YOU?
##vote Jay


On February 07 2014 12:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Jay are you gonna do something else day 1? I think we've heard enough about your case, dunno why Balla asks us to stop then he continues pressuring you.


On February 07 2014 14:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 13:51 suki wrote:
Regarding people's concerns that I'm not scum hunting, I was just having fun at the beginning of the game. So, you can decide if I'm scum hunting or not going forward.

On February 07 2014 12:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah oh shit Suki does nothing about the case JayB posted, she never comments on it at all, just says its too tryhard and therefore scummy. Oh thats bad. She literally says nothing on whether the case was good/bad or why and whether koshi is town/scum or why. Just shits on it because its early in the game?

##vote Suki


I skimmed JayB's case and didn't like it. I don't see the point in meta reading someone off of their pre-game content, or meta reading them 2 hours into the game as the game is still getting started.

What threw me off was that he put in a ton of effort trying to find every little thing he could in order to paint Koshi as scum. He basically became super sure that Koshi was scum off of a weak case. He had already stated that he was going to scum hunt and he was hunting so hard it just felt forced and contrived.

In other words, I didn't care about the case that he made, or the fact that it was made early, I cared about what motivations he could have had when making that case. Does it make more sense for town to hard tunnel someone off a weak case and try to make them look scummy, or does it make more sense for scum? The fact that the case was made so early is just a bonus point against a town scum-hunting mindset.

In my opinion, it's more scummy to take this line of action. Thus I voted Jay.


On Koshi

Koshi has talked the talk. He just needs to walk the walk.

His attitude is different in this game than last. He's more confident and more 'willing' to be active and contribute.

If he doesn't hold up his end of the deal then he's an easy lynch.

Other than that he hasn't done anything so I am waiting for his contributions when he returns.

so then this was a lie?
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:49 suki wrote:
##unvote King Balla
##vote Jaybrundage


What the hell are you seriously posting a super-serious-scum-hunt long ass post with quotes and reasoning two hours into the game? Take a CHILL PILL man.

Holy shit. Why the hell are you in such a rush to find scum out of the first four people who have entered the thread. This attitude is completely different from last game and I don't mean that in a good way.

So basically you think JayB is scum because he made a case longer than 2 sentences. Why is it more scummy if someone tunnels early? Didnt I tunnel early against koshi off pretty much nothing and I was town? You are doing the exact same thing as last game. I guess either you didnt learn anything or you are scum trying to play to your previous town meta.

What about JayB's scumhunting was forced and contrived?


The only defense of Jay I see is a chainsaw defense of him by attacking suki.

On February 10 2014 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dunno man, I really dont feel like putting in the effort to do something that doesnt lead to us lynching scum.


How do you not get this? You're being scummy, I would lynch you over this. If you aren't helping me to understand why you give jay a free pass then you are NOT leading us to lynching scum if you are town. Because I would lynch you, and you would be town and you did nothing to make me think you were not scum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 02:37 GMT
#1106
Im not being scummy, you are being crazy.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 02:41 GMT
#1107
Like me having a 'bad' townread that you agree with isnt the only thing that makes me scum is it.
No gg, No skill.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 10 2014 02:44 GMT
#1108
Nope, but it is one of the things.

Don't get me wrong here, I don't agree with your town read at all. I think jay is town, but your reasoning is non-existent to me. Seriously. What do you make of his vote at the deadline? What do you make of his reaction early? What do you make of his interactions with jonny? There's so much that you seem to just be ignoring because he had a decent post explaining an afk? What is that?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 10 2014 02:45 GMT
#1109
On February 10 2014 11:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im not being scummy, you are being crazy.

I'm finding your reasons for this Jay read pretty damn unconvincing as well.
On February 10 2014 11:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Like me having a 'bad' townread that you agree with isnt the only thing that makes me scum is it.

Well your actual contribution to the day 1 lynch was pretty weak. I'm obliged to be at least suspicious of you for that.

(And yes, before you ask, other peoples' contributions to deciding the lynch were pretty weak too, and yes I'm suspicious of them too.)
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 10 2014 02:45 GMT
#1110
Masta of the Oats Talk to me about sidesprang. His lurking ways are pretty sketchy atm. You think he's scum instead of lurking town. Why so?

Also I asked you earlier about Hopeless1der what are your thoughts on him?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 10 2014 02:46 GMT
#1111
On February 10 2014 11:45 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 11:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im not being scummy, you are being crazy.

I'm finding your reasons for this Jay read pretty damn unconvincing as well.
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 11:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Like me having a 'bad' townread that you agree with isnt the only thing that makes me scum is it.

Well your actual contribution to the day 1 lynch was pretty weak. I'm obliged to be at least suspicious of you for that.

(And yes, before you ask, other peoples' contributions to deciding the lynch were pretty weak too, and yes I'm suspicious of them too.)

Aquanim what do you think of my post when I responded to you about Suki and Coag. Do you think any of the reasoning I had was valid. What do you think about Oats and Hopeless1der hell throw in sidesprang in there
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 10 2014 02:48 GMT
#1112
Also just to make it clear I don't plan to explain the true-blue townie thing at all until I feel its necessary.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 02:48 GMT
#1113
On February 10 2014 11:44 Balla24 wrote:
Nope, but it is one of the things.

Don't get me wrong here, I don't agree with your town read at all. I think jay is town, but your reasoning is non-existent to me. Seriously. What do you make of his vote at the deadline? What do you make of his reaction early? What do you make of his interactions with jonny? There's so much that you seem to just be ignoring because he had a decent post explaining an afk? What is that?

you agree with my townread = you think jay is town too.

Also this shit is so easy to fake. If Im scum right? So I know jay is town, so I can make up so much shit.
No gg, No skill.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 10 2014 02:50 GMT
#1114
On February 10 2014 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 11:44 Balla24 wrote:
Nope, but it is one of the things.

Don't get me wrong here, I don't agree with your town read at all. I think jay is town, but your reasoning is non-existent to me. Seriously. What do you make of his vote at the deadline? What do you make of his reaction early? What do you make of his interactions with jonny? There's so much that you seem to just be ignoring because he had a decent post explaining an afk? What is that?

you agree with my townread = you think jay is town too.

Also this shit is so easy to fake. If Im scum right? So I know jay is town, so I can make up so much shit.

Yeah I think that's the point - the stuff you've posted so far looks a helluva lot like made-up shit.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 10 2014 02:52 GMT
#1115
On February 10 2014 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 11:44 Balla24 wrote:
Nope, but it is one of the things.

Don't get me wrong here, I don't agree with your town read at all. I think jay is town, but your reasoning is non-existent to me. Seriously. What do you make of his vote at the deadline? What do you make of his reaction early? What do you make of his interactions with jonny? There's so much that you seem to just be ignoring because he had a decent post explaining an afk? What is that?

you agree with my townread = you think jay is town too.

Also this shit is so easy to fake. If Im scum right? So I know jay is town, so I can make up so much shit.


If it's fake it's still something you have to take responsibility for. If a scum makes a town read up then they have to defend that and explain their reasoning, then they have to stand by it or explain reasoning for not standing by it.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 02:55 GMT
#1116
On February 10 2014 11:45 jaybrundage wrote:
Masta of the Oats Talk to me about sidesprang. His lurking ways are pretty sketchy atm. You think he's scum instead of lurking town. Why so?

Also I asked you earlier about Hopeless1der what are your thoughts on him?

sidesprang's vote on Johnny came late and felt like he unnecessarily added stuff in order to not be 'sheeping'.
Too many list posts with questions it doesnt seem like he cares about the answers at all.
and like this
On February 08 2014 00:58 sidesprang wrote:
I don't mind hopeless so far this game. He made good points against JayB, tho I dont agree that they have to make him scum, might just be bad. And I like that he got Balla to quit playing around with the confirmed town shit. Only problem is that all his posts have been easy posts to make even for a scum. So he is pretty much null for me atm.

"Hopeless posted good posts but he still scummy".

Like what..
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 02:58 GMT
#1117
not gonna make a case on how jay is town, no.
No gg, No skill.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 10 2014 03:00 GMT
#1118
Alright then i'm just going to have to accept the fact that your reasoning on him is complete bullshit and is made up and so are the rest of your reads:

##vote Oatsmaster

+ Show Spoiler +

Yes I am acting purely out of anger, so infuriating that someone is just not going to put any effort into explaining what he's thinking. We'll see what I think when I come back.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 10 2014 03:03 GMT
#1119
On February 10 2014 12:00 Balla24 wrote:
Alright then i'm just going to have to accept the fact that your reasoning on him is complete bullshit and is made up and so are the rest of your reads:

##vote Oatsmaster

+ Show Spoiler +

Yes I am acting purely out of anger, so infuriating that someone is just not going to put any effort into explaining what he's thinking. We'll see what I think when I come back.

So you are aware you are tilted but still think that im scum?
Look at my scumreads then, if you are so infuriated that Im not gonna copy paste your reasoning on why jay is town.
No gg, No skill.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 10 2014 03:04 GMT
#1120
On February 10 2014 11:46 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 11:45 Aquanim wrote:
On February 10 2014 11:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im not being scummy, you are being crazy.

I'm finding your reasons for this Jay read pretty damn unconvincing as well.
On February 10 2014 11:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Like me having a 'bad' townread that you agree with isnt the only thing that makes me scum is it.

Well your actual contribution to the day 1 lynch was pretty weak. I'm obliged to be at least suspicious of you for that.

(And yes, before you ask, other peoples' contributions to deciding the lynch were pretty weak too, and yes I'm suspicious of them too.)

Aquanim what do you think of my post when I responded to you about Suki and Coag. Do you think any of the reasoning I had was valid. What do you think about Oats and Hopeless1der hell throw in sidesprang in there

I think you've illustrated a plausible chain of events for Suki being scum. Besides the meta point, though, I don't think there's much that is directed at convincing me that Suki *can't* be town, merely that she *could* be scum. The tunnel on you in contrast to her previous games is interesting but in different circumstances people play differently - in this case she felt the need to push your lynch hard, since the thread momentum was going in the other direction.
So yeah Suki needs more attention but I don't think I want to drive a wagon on her at this point. Need to see some more.

Regarding Coag I think you've made a good point - he shouldn't really feel this depressed about the game if he's town, I don't think.

As for Oats, Hopeless and Sidesprang I think all three are possible scum. I'd prefer to talk some more with them first before I go with one over the others.
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