EPTHas he ever trolled a lot as town? I don't remember it.
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kushm4sta
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Has he ever trolled a lot as town? I don't remember it. | ||
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thrawn2112
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pleas explain why you are voting for someone you say is unreadable please explain why you aren';t voting for the person you told to post baby seals | ||
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On January 17 2014 16:46 kushm4sta wrote: @thrawn i dont think it's an actual commitment that hopeless is making because the post is almost pure troll. Has he ever trolled a lot as town? I don't remember it. oh and i think using pure troll logic to justify a vote on his null read even though he has a super-confident scum read is pretty scummy | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Hopeless wtf? | ||
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thrawn2112
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On January 17 2014 16:56 Grackaroni wrote: Mostly because when I have played with town Hopeless he is usually more open minded. In this game his reaction to me trying to talk to him reminded me of him in Pandain's mason chat in Time to Die. yes Hopeless + Show Spoiler + Pandain 11-22-2013 11:20 PM ET (US) EDIT DELETE So now that I'm pretty obvious town who do you think is scum and town 10 Pandain 11-22-2013 01:35 PM ET (US) stop lol I hope youre scum because if so this is extra hilarious 9 hopeless1der 11-22-2013 01:34 PM ET (US) Now you want to chat? Nah, not wasting my time. gg scum 8 Pandain 11-22-2013 01:28 PM ET (US) who else are you suspicious of and who do you think is town 7 Pandain 11-21-2013 11:00 PM ET (US) stop im not scum lol 6 Pandain 11-21-2013 05:43 PM ET (US) jk 5 hopeless1der 11-21-2013 05:41 PM ET (US) well that was fun, we should do this again some time. gotta go out shortly. If there was a point to masoning me be sure to mention for when I'm back. 4 Pandain 11-21-2013 05:33 PM ET (US) yes 3 Pandain 11-21-2013 05:33 PM ET (US) lol 2 hopeless1der 11-21-2013 05:24 PM ET (US) oh this should be good. you need me to proofread your case on rayn before you post it? 1 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 11-21-2013 05:02 PM ET (US) Pandain and Hopeless1der mason Day 3/Night 3 most of this page | ||
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kushm4sta
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On January 16 2014 10:01 Hopeless1der wrote: i'm catching up on AGDQ i missed out on. I'm just peachy. No wait banana-y hopeless claimed vt. I don't think he'd be dumb enough to do this as an actual vt. It's actually a deeply anti town thing to do in this setup. 2 scum perspective On January 16 2014 10:10 Hopeless1der wrote: considering he had the option to leave it alone and tell his scumbuddies they can't fakeclaim this explanation makes the most sense. He provides a scum perspective, which he thinks will look helpful in this context. 3 Restating other people's ideas A lot of his content has been elucidating other people's points to try to look helpful: On January 17 2014 01:01 Hopeless1der wrote: That is the basic idea behind what rayn is saying you did skanjab. And here you are maintaining that your case is legit and sn0 is totes scum for joking about lynching the host when there were basically no posts in thread. On January 17 2014 04:58 Hopeless1der wrote: Toad that catalogs point is very different. Marv and rayn were very specific in saying that Xata does something as scum that he DOESN'T do as town. There is no basis to make that comparison on sn0's behalf unless he has literally never made a wishywashy statement ever before (since he's never rolled scum before) On January 17 2014 07:11 Hope On January 17 2014 08:37 Hopeless1der wrote: right. rayn's argument is that kush does not have the ability to flip town. less1der wrote: no that statement says mig os scum or rayn is scum. with the corollary that sn0 is town if mig is scum On January 17 2014 08:37 Hopeless1der wrote: right. rayn's argument is that kush does not have the ability to flip town. 4 His voting is not consistent with his reads On January 17 2014 07:27 Hopeless1der wrote: because you cant read between the lines. also my reads are maleable. grack is scum. skan is probably scum. kush (who i havent really commented on) is unreadable to me so far. I wouldnt cry if he was lynched. This post that thrawn brought up already. He indicates 2 people who he believes are more likely to flip scum than me, including someone who IS scum. And he votes me shortly after without any indication that his read on me has changed. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Hey what are your thoughts on Koshi, Grack? | ||
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thrawn2112
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i didnt realize he also thinks skan is scum... that makes the kush vote even worse | ||
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kushm4sta
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Do you think he got VT then was like, oh let me just claim it for no reason? no. I think he did it because he thought it would make him look town. | ||
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Koshi
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^ This is my entire defense of all accusation. -------------------------------------------------- Now to go for scumhunting. I really don't want to omgus Grack here but I will. First Mig: On January 17 2014 03:48 Mig wrote: Grack isn't a bad 2nd candidate. He trolls as town and mafia (I feel like he does it more as mafia tho), so only trolling combined with the fact that while under pressure he just disappeared as soon as thrawn/oats started arguing and taking the heat off of him. This is the only thing that Mig has talked about that isn't Snow. I will look into previous games of Mig but I am pretty sure that Mig came into Intrigue with a post that committed to 4 reads and that there was actual fresh content in it. The reason he gives for Grack is scum is something that was said by 2 others before him. Then my opinion about Mr. Snowman. I was nodding my head when I read that case from Skanjab in the start, I agreed with it. BUT time has passed since then and the only scummy thing that Snow actually did this game is start the game "bad". Which he got a shitton of flak for and under all this pressure my scumread on him lessened which is pretty strange if he is scum because Snow posted a lot. On January 17 2014 03:46 Mig wrote: Sno is likely mafia. 1) I had the same thoughts as skan when reading sno's response to kush's question about why he seems so happy. Most townies just ignore it or dismiss it, instead of providing a real answer (which felt kind of like bs btw). 2) These posts he makes back to back In the initial post he very weakly accuses skan of possibly being mafia. Also, this is probably nothing but the stupid :/ face there doesn't really fit for a townie mindset in my eyes. If you think someone is doing something scummy why use the wishy washy face. The very next post he then implies that skan is town when he says that skan actually thinks he is scum. This doesn't really make sense unless he is mafia and already knows skan is town. #vote Sno Compared to LXIV game: + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2014 07:34 Mig wrote: To Marv I am only about 50 pages in so quick thoughts are this- thrawn is very very likely town - Mafia are rarely going to fake claim this early and on top of that oftentimes millers are not self aware. Mafia wont know whether millers are self aware or not so to claim you are a self aware early on in thread is a huge gamble (if it turns out they arent self aware and one flips later on this could potentially be suicide). I am actually a bit suspicious you just ignored this right after thrawn claimed but you didn't list him under your suspicious list at least so meh. koshi/rayn both very likely town - both playing the exact same as previous games I have played with them as town. doge- likely town, every pm game I play most of the people active in pms and trying to seek people out through skype are town. The fact that he is talking to you, he also pmd me right away, is something I don't think many mafia would do unless they were extremely confident in their play (assuming you are town). Your point about him still being suspicious of bh/hopeless is another thing that appear townie to me. Scummy people I haven't had a chance to talk to WoS or Yam in pms yet but both look bad to me. WoS's posts that I have read so far are wordy with very little content. Just seems like a lot of pointless fluff. Yam - I can't really explain it but this is based on tone for me. The last big game with mayors I played with yam he ran for mayor and seemed so much more confident and his posts were way more direct and to the point. This game he starts out writing 10 paragraphs when he could have explained his thoughts in 2 and I don't see him being nearly as aggressive. I would probably prefer if one of those 2 were lynched, but I imagine I am in the minority on that for now. Cpt obvious I think would be a bad lynch candidate. He is putting 0 effort into appearing to look good, even after people have yelled at him about looking shitty. Strikes me as a bad/lazy townie. Xat - I would be ok with a Xat lynch. I don't think his indignant pms to you really point to him being town. I haven't read the most recent stuff yet but his early posts to me seem hesitant and a lot of his early questions were pointless fluff. Look at the difference, in LXIV townreads + scumreads with a couple good new reasons. I read that post in LXIV and I immediatly felt it was good. Here, I believed that Mig was on the right track with Snow so I didn't really care too much but now that I am actually awake and can see Snow is not scum for those first 5 minutes in the game I put serious ??? with Mig. Now I will look into more games from Mig and see if he does this monotome "follow up" questioning like he did after. __________________ Grack is scum for being away from the thread for 15 hours or so. Same as in LXIII, trolling into 15 hours afk. Pretty sure he didn't do it in any other game. | ||
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thrawn2112
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On January 17 2014 17:27 Oatsmaster wrote: kush dont need to open no filters as scum, HE KNOWS. yeah he changes his meta al the fucjkng time so saying "he trolls as X or he's stupid as X or is srs as X" doesn't help u figure him out. one way to read him is that when he's scum it's always super obvious that he knows alignments. doesn't matter if he's bussing or not. look at this game and look at the PM game. here he shows hesitancy, is unsure about things. last game he like "nope these my reads these are correct look how good I am at this game" | ||
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kushm4sta
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) that mig is town
