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On January 11 2014 01:41 GrandInquisitor wrote:Reading this article changed my life. Life is about being able to do things that are: a) valuable to society; b) hard for most people to do. This is it. That is everything. It determines how much you are paid, your romantic success, your overall sense of self-fulfillment. Video gaming is neither. It might be a temporary way to recharge and feel better, thus allowing you to accomplish those valuable/hard goals in life, but it is not the point of life itself.
Sorry, but it seems as if you're imposing to other people "what is life all about". It is obviously true that people will value you more if you're valuable to society and do things that are hard for most people to do, but you don't need to care about those things. Imho every person should just try not to be a burden to the society and that's it; do whatever else you want.
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On January 11 2014 01:41 GrandInquisitor wrote:Reading this article changed my life. Life is about being able to do things that are: a) valuable to society; b) hard for most people to do. This is it. That is everything. It determines how much you are paid, your romantic success, your overall sense of self-fulfillment. Video gaming is neither. It might be a temporary way to recharge and feel better, thus allowing you to accomplish those valuable/hard goals in life, but it is not the point of life itself.
Your worth to society and worth to yourself are not the same thing.
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To clarify though, I think the OP should drastically reduce his gaming. Gaming is a recreational activity that you do once all the essential things in life are taken care of. It is not something you do instead of work on your career/personal life/personal health.
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On January 10 2014 12:13 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 11:55 Dfgj wrote:On January 10 2014 11:35 Birdie wrote:Sounds like you do have a problem. If you don't have any problem with compulsive gaming, then stop for a year. Stop cold turkey playing games for an entire year. If you can't, or won't, then there's a strong chance that you're a compulsive gamer. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9DBFBD4160A9EAA2 you may find these three videos useful. 'Quit your hobbies, it'll show you don't need them!' That doesn't exactly sound productive, I would never quit any of my hobbies for a year to prove a point. Games, sports, reading, anything. Spending much more than four hours a day on computer gaming is no longer a hobby, it's a job.
I know people who spend more than four hours a day watching TV, is TV a job?
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On January 11 2014 09:30 Esoterikk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 12:13 Birdie wrote:On January 10 2014 11:55 Dfgj wrote:On January 10 2014 11:35 Birdie wrote:Sounds like you do have a problem. If you don't have any problem with compulsive gaming, then stop for a year. Stop cold turkey playing games for an entire year. If you can't, or won't, then there's a strong chance that you're a compulsive gamer. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9DBFBD4160A9EAA2 you may find these three videos useful. 'Quit your hobbies, it'll show you don't need them!' That doesn't exactly sound productive, I would never quit any of my hobbies for a year to prove a point. Games, sports, reading, anything. Spending much more than four hours a day on computer gaming is no longer a hobby, it's a job. I know people who spend more than four hours a day watching TV, is TV a job?
Yeah in the same sense that gaming can become a "job". Job isn't really the right word, but usually if you spend that much time entertaining yourself with the same entertainment, every day, then there's a strong chance that it's compulsive.
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On January 11 2014 09:42 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 09:30 Esoterikk wrote:On January 10 2014 12:13 Birdie wrote:On January 10 2014 11:55 Dfgj wrote:On January 10 2014 11:35 Birdie wrote:Sounds like you do have a problem. If you don't have any problem with compulsive gaming, then stop for a year. Stop cold turkey playing games for an entire year. If you can't, or won't, then there's a strong chance that you're a compulsive gamer. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9DBFBD4160A9EAA2 you may find these three videos useful. 'Quit your hobbies, it'll show you don't need them!' That doesn't exactly sound productive, I would never quit any of my hobbies for a year to prove a point. Games, sports, reading, anything. Spending much more than four hours a day on computer gaming is no longer a hobby, it's a job. I know people who spend more than four hours a day watching TV, is TV a job? Yeah in the same sense that gaming can become a "job". Job isn't really the right word, but usually if you spend that much time entertaining yourself with the same entertainment, every day, then there's a strong chance that it's compulsive.
Or that you lack other interests, or you prefer that to other options. Or that 'time on the computer' is rarely a single activity because you'll be doing a host of different things.
You're arguing that leisure over X amount of time is not only bad, but no longer leisure.
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On January 11 2014 09:56 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 09:42 Birdie wrote:On January 11 2014 09:30 Esoterikk wrote:On January 10 2014 12:13 Birdie wrote:On January 10 2014 11:55 Dfgj wrote:On January 10 2014 11:35 Birdie wrote:Sounds like you do have a problem. If you don't have any problem with compulsive gaming, then stop for a year. Stop cold turkey playing games for an entire year. If you can't, or won't, then there's a strong chance that you're a compulsive gamer. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9DBFBD4160A9EAA2 you may find these three videos useful. 'Quit your hobbies, it'll show you don't need them!' That doesn't exactly sound productive, I would never quit any of my hobbies for a year to prove a point. Games, sports, reading, anything. Spending much more than four hours a day on computer gaming is no longer a hobby, it's a job. I know people who spend more than four hours a day watching TV, is TV a job? Yeah in the same sense that gaming can become a "job". Job isn't really the right word, but usually if you spend that much time entertaining yourself with the same entertainment, every day, then there's a strong chance that it's compulsive. Or that you lack other interests, or you prefer that to other options. Or that 'time on the computer' is rarely a single activity because you'll be doing a host of different things. You're arguing that leisure over X amount of time is not only bad, but no longer leisure.
If it gets in the way of you doing what you should be doing or want to do, then yes. If you can't STOP doing it, then yes. Not in every circumstance will it be bad/not leisure, but given what OP said, it seems reasonable to think that his excessive gaming is having a negative influence on his life. I don't know for sure as I don't know all of what goes on in his life.
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Never had my parents accuse me of playing to much. But then again I kept my grades up throughout my K-12 years, and in College. I hang out with people. Honestly when you discover women you will game a lot less lol.
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you do have a problem and need to get off the computer.
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On January 11 2014 15:28 HeeroFX wrote:
Never had my parents accuse me of playing to much. But then again I kept my grades up throughout my K-12 years, and in College. I hang out with people. Honestly when you discover women you will game a lot less lol.
But what if games are so good at rewarding you that your incentive to discover women (who probably won't want to be around me anyways QQ) just never gets that strong? The thing is, try to imagine what your life would be like with less/no gaming. If you find that you picture yourself having that huge hole in your day that you might have to fill by getting a hobby where you meat with real people from the vicinity you can go have a drink with on saturdays, maybe that hole is what you need.
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My only advice to you is this. Do whatever you want to do. It's your life and you can do whatever you want. If games are what you want to do then go do that. Don't care about people who say that you must do this or must do that. If you want an education then go get that phd or whatever u want. Or excercise if you want to do that. The point is that if you like the way your life is going then keep living and keep doing what you do. I play alot of games myself and i have no problems what so ever. I get good grades in school excersise in the spring and summer and i generally just do what i want to do. And i think you should do the same.
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On January 12 2014 04:51 Jan1997 wrote:
My only advice to you is this. Do whatever you want to do. It's your life and you can do whatever you want. If games are what you want to do then go do that. Don't care about people who say that you must do this or must do that. If you want an education then go get that phd or whatever u want. Or excercise if you want to do that. The point is that if you like the way your life is going then keep living and keep doing what you do. I play alot of games myself and i have no problems what so ever. I get good grades in school excersise in the spring and summer and i generally just do what i want to do. And i think you should do the same.
Lol always fun to see kids who haven't escaped the education bubble yet talking about doing what you want because your grades are good. You have so, so much to learn about life.
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On January 12 2014 05:16 SongByungWewt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 04:51 Jan1997 wrote:
My only advice to you is this. Do whatever you want to do. It's your life and you can do whatever you want. If games are what you want to do then go do that. Don't care about people who say that you must do this or must do that. If you want an education then go get that phd or whatever u want. Or excercise if you want to do that. The point is that if you like the way your life is going then keep living and keep doing what you do. I play alot of games myself and i have no problems what so ever. I get good grades in school excersise in the spring and summer and i generally just do what i want to do. And i think you should do the same. Lol always fun to see kids who haven't escaped the education bubble yet talking about doing what you want because your grades are good. You have so, so much to learn about life.
So basicly what you're saying is that he can't do what he want just because he's an adult? Thats BS though honestly. And btw i don't understand what you meant with "Education bubble" if you thought all i've been doing in in life is school then i might aswell say that i've tried to work aswell and i find work easier than school funnily enough.
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I was able to quit gaming for long periods of time with no problems, but only because I had other things occupy my time. During breaks, I sometimes revert back to my old self and it reminds me of the OP. I find myself playing these games not because I enjoy them fully, but because I am so bored sometimes, and games get you in that state of flow where time is non existent.
I'm still on that quest to occupy the void that is left after quitting gaming, which is all I knew how to do for many years. I would suggest for OP to be on that same quest
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On January 12 2014 05:32 Jan1997 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 05:16 SongByungWewt wrote:On January 12 2014 04:51 Jan1997 wrote:
My only advice to you is this. Do whatever you want to do. It's your life and you can do whatever you want. If games are what you want to do then go do that. Don't care about people who say that you must do this or must do that. If you want an education then go get that phd or whatever u want. Or excercise if you want to do that. The point is that if you like the way your life is going then keep living and keep doing what you do. I play alot of games myself and i have no problems what so ever. I get good grades in school excersise in the spring and summer and i generally just do what i want to do. And i think you should do the same. Lol always fun to see kids who haven't escaped the education bubble yet talking about doing what you want because your grades are good. You have so, so much to learn about life. So basicly what you're saying is that he can't do what he want just because he's an adult? Thats BS though honestly. And btw i don't understand what you meant with "Education bubble" if you thought all i've been doing in in life is school then i might aswell say that i've tried to work aswell and i find work easier than school funnily enough.
If school is harder and more fulfilling to you than work you weren't doing the right kind of work.
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i think it's important for everyone to have (at least) one important hobby that is unrelated to gaming or computer or TV.
it helps keep perspective.
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When I was your age I spent a similair amount of time being unproductive every day (watching tv, playing games, getting drunk etc.), I just didn't live with my parents anymore. Nowadays I don't do that shit anymore and spend my time far more productively.
The point is that you seem to be aware that gaming isn't the only thing for you in life. You just need to grow up a bit more. For people like you and me the 'lazy bum teen years' just last a bit longer. Eventually you'll come across something that you really enjoy doing and you'll change into that inspired succesful young adult you want to be.
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your hobby is impacting your life negatively. yes it is a problem
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