I'm alittle confused on the new Starcraft 2 deal with the phase prisms. Is it like an arbiter where you have a bunch of units at one place and if you use the phase prism, it just moves it? And how come this replaces the shuttles? Thanks

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

August 27 2007 19:22 GMT

Think of a shuttle that can land and turn into a mobile pylon.

Temptations

61 Posts

August 27 2007 19:32 GMT

On August 28 2007 04:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
Think of a shuttle that can land and turn into a mobile pylon.

Also, great for cannon rushing

EpiK

Korea (South)5757 Posts

August 27 2007 19:36 GMT

It's going to extremely hard to balance the game with the phase prisms. Blizzard will truly be the best gaming industry if they can pull this off.

il0seonpurpose

Korea (South)5638 Posts

August 27 2007 19:36 GMT

So its like an arbiter right, does the phase prism have like a "box" that depends how many units can come?

nofAcedAgent

United States951 Posts

August 27 2007 19:48 GMT

I dont see where your drawing the arbiter simmilarity [recall im guessing?] - Its like a drop ship that doubles as a mobile pylon (my understanding) - A very small number of units can be loaded into the PP (like 2 reavers) but if it lands, it creates a power field like a pylon, which units can be warped into using the warp gates. So you cant have like 10 units bunched together in a 'box' as you call it and warp them in immeditaley like an arbiter, there is a time period that the warping units must go through, like 5 seconds or something which they cannot attack, but are vulnerable to enemy attack. I think thats what you mean? You have to warp them in one by one (one warpgate, one unit, if you have more then one warpgate then yes, more then one can be warped simultaneously.

Gameplay scenario: Use the PP loaded with a couple of reavers to do a traditional reaver drop into the enemy base, when landed it creates a power field where you can then warp in units. (which are vulnerable to enemy attack, so the reavers are absorbing hits, buying time for the rest of your army to be warped in)

Shouldnt this be in the sc2 forum^^?

il0seonpurpose

Korea (South)5638 Posts

August 27 2007 19:59 GMT

OOH, I get it thanks.

Well I was going to post it there but I didnt feel it was big enough to be a topic, so I put it on my blog. Thanks again

nofAcedAgent

United States951 Posts

August 27 2007 20:02 GMT

No prob, its gonna be a cool unit ^^ - I dont think it has any other abilities as it is now. I wonder if the power field will be an upgrade or if it will have it as soon as you build it?

rpf

United States2705 Posts

August 27 2007 21:23 GMT

The phase prism is the same as the shuttle from BW, but has an ability that allows it to act as a pylon, sacrificing mobility in the process. So, either it's a shuttle or it's a pylon.

il0seonpurpose

Korea (South)5638 Posts

August 27 2007 21:26 GMT

#10

So there are two types of pylons? That's pretty cool though, so is this a high tech tree building? Cuz proxys would work nicely, but you'd need a probe to tag along or use the prisms ability to transport one over. Does it have psi energy?

il0seonpurpose

Korea (South)5638 Posts

August 27 2007 22:14 GMT

#11

one more after i press post

il0seonpurpose

Korea (South)5638 Posts

August 27 2007 22:14 GMT

#12

yay!!!

nofAcedAgent

United States951 Posts

August 27 2007 22:43 GMT

#13

On August 28 2007 07:14 il0seonpurpose wrote:
yay!!!

Congrats ^^

To answer your question it comes from the Robotics Facility

fusionsdf

Canada15390 Posts

August 27 2007 22:45 GMT

#14

I dont think you can warp probes

nofAcedAgent

United States951 Posts

August 27 2007 22:51 GMT

#15

You could transport one though ;p (it acts as a shuttle too)

And - really? - you cant? Intresting..

il0seonpurpose

Korea (South)5638 Posts

August 28 2007 00:25 GMT

#16

Haha thanks, why cant you warp probes?

SpiritoftheTunA

United States20903 Posts

August 28 2007 05:49 GMT

#17

You can only warp units from a warp gate.

Which is an upgrade at the twilight council that lets you switch your gateways to warp gates for free.

Which are harder to macro but let you place units anywhere in your pylon power.

il0seonpurpose

Korea (South)5638 Posts

August 28 2007 19:02 GMT

#18

Why is it harder to macro?

nofAcedAgent

United States951 Posts

August 28 2007 21:16 GMT

#19

Because the warpgates work differently then regulargateways. Units [any] are ready right away but when you choose to warp one, depending on how 'high tech' the unit is, it takes longer for another one to be ready. IE - warp a zealot from a warpgate, 10 seconds later another zealot is ready to warp, 15 seconds later a stalker, 20 an immortal ect. Now those arnt the 'real' cooldowns, just an example. So its harder to macro cause if you dont choose to select to warp, say another zealot as soon as that 10 second cooldown is done, then your losing effecientcy. You have to really keep tabs on them to use them to their fullest. A really cool mechanic IMO!

And oh yeah, no duh a probe cant be warped. I knew that... duh! (probe not a warpgate unit) But like I said they can still be transported ^^

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