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On November 23 2013 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 10:21 austinmcc wrote:On November 23 2013 10:17 VayneAuthority wrote:On November 23 2013 10:15 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 23 2013 10:13 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't discuss with scum austin, im not going to convince you that you are scum and there is no point in pursuing me as I am confirmed town. Pointless discussion. okay then discuss with me. Why is austin scum? he confirmed the rayn lynch with the help of BC, what else is there to say? You had me as mafia BEFORE this. This is not your reasoning. then go ahead and push me and look like an asshat for all I care (note the hat pun) see how far it gets you. Stop it.
Why was I mafia? You said I was. You must have had a reason. What was it?
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like I said, call me scum if you think refusing to give any reasons make me scum. I'm not playing your little game
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I had a slightly town feel about bc and it was wrong. I dont know if my reputation will ever recover but im gonna try and move on.
Also I remember looking at vote at last minute and thinking trying to save him but decided that I didnt want any part of the last minute switching bullshit. I think I could have gotta risen lynched instead of him if I wanted.
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On November 23 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote: like I said, call me scum if you think refusing to give any reasons make me scum. I'm not playing your little game No. You GAVE a reason when asked. My vote.
Except my vote happened after you were calling me mafia already. This isn't a lack of reason. You GAVE a reason that could not have been true.
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ok so am I scum then? I don't see where this is going.
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It makes you scummy. I need to look you over closer to know if you're scum or not.
But giving reasoning that is false for a read DOES make you look scummy.
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The circlejerk going on in this thread right now is strong. Too much scum touching between mig, VA, Grack. How do I know there's scum amongst these folks? Because they're not afraid of giving out their fucking town reads at NIGHT. Also their totally fucking smug obviously X shouldn't be lynched bullshit. How does mig not see that BC moving to rayn not only killed a townie but also set up my lynch tomorrow buying Pandain TWO lynches if not more. On top of this ss is skating in the clear now, so what if Pandain is town and ss is scum? The whole thing with BC needs to be fucking IGNORED. I'm hoping I'm able to die tonight but won't get myself modkilled to do so.
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Also, mafia doc is dead, I can't imagine them having another. Don't be afraid of them protecting me.
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Coag should be lynched tomorrow he's been totally useless and therefore scum
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yea the only mad hatter in the game is scum, you got me
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On November 23 2013 10:24 Koshi wrote: hmm rayn was town. I feel really bad now. mafia depression. damned. Don't feel bad the game will be so much more enjoyable now
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I was going to defend risen tomorrow but nvm
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Rayne is just Chezinu^-1 (Chezinu inverse)
Tell off everybody so that mislynches. I don't react to that well at all.
Hijole, however I have tons of apology due here as well. Therefore I do, and ask for a little time to catch up, and then I will give my gut reads for you all to critique.
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Yes Risen I just bussed and lead the lynch on the mafia doc. While also being a claimed 2shot vig with a mafia 2shot vig already dead. I obviously must be mafia. You really got this game figured out.
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On November 23 2013 09:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Everyone make sure you do it, then lynch him and lose the game when he is town, But do it. You brought it upon yourself. You almost gave me the same attitude permanently and this is rude to Marv, Clarity, all hosts actually. And I apologized to Marv but here apologize to all hosts.
I also thank KadaverBB! :D Star Trek is sublime and inspirational.
I read Koshi's filter and have deduced what I will from him. In the meantime, I apologize once more if anyone said anything between 275 and flip. This is just a slog through depressing filled with BC WIFOM bombs.
Catching up from flip now.
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On November 23 2013 10:55 VayneAuthority wrote: yea the only mad hatter in the game is scum, you got me You've claimed hatter. You also claim that, with the BC lynch, you're out of bombs. + Show Spoiler +On November 22 2013 01:55 VayneAuthority wrote: I lost one of my bombs this game already, my only bomb is on BC. so lynching me just kills both of us On November 23 2013 09:43 VayneAuthority wrote: meh I lose my other bomb then. I'm a VT for all intents and purposes now
If all claims are true, then you think I'm town.
If you don't think I'm town, you recognize that claims don't magically make people town. Nor do crumbs.
Play and flips do.
Yeah, you crumbed a bunch, but BC's posts on town KP are...interesting. On November 21 2013 13:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also HF, its not that I find vaynes claim believable so much as it seems more legit in a way then say, a town vig openly shooting town power roles/players, making excuses to avoid shooting his main read.
IF mig is town then rayne clearly isn't. No way in hell town has 6 night kp + 2 trackers + a med + a rber +apparently now 2 vets
Do you honestly think town has 3 kill roles, 2 dts, a med, a rber and 2 vets + a bunch of masons? Exclusing masons that would leave what ? 9 power roles vs whatever the mafia has? Thats still more power roles than mafia has numbers and incredibly fucking broken for town.
There is no way there are 3 town kp roles. Of those 3 claims 1 is dead and flipped town, 1 has actively shot town. Do I think vayne looks good? Not really but his claim is more believable. BC says it's unlikely mig/artanis/rayne are all town, because that's just too much KP. Despite your claiming hatter too, posting pictures, etc., he doesn't even address your hatter claim or include you. He's specifically addressing town KP and he leaves you out.
After mig/I are arguing with him about this, he finally posts in response to mig talking about BC believing you/rayn but not him:On November 21 2013 14:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 14:21 Mig wrote: It is common sense, I wasnt shooting you artanis said he wasnt. Tell me the scenario where mafia wants to kill you lol. You said yourself you were under the most suspicion. I didnt "know" you wouldnt die but it had to be 99%+.
I refuse to believe you can be town with this thinking. If you were town I think you come back realize I am almost certainly town and work to actually pick out a scum. This is just your mafia hail mary. The fact you snap believe VA and rayn and just push me while refusing to listen to reason seals it. what fucking reason? You seriously believe you can make some bullshit excuse on why you didnt shoot me all because artanis claimed he was going to? You admit you expected to die. You admit you were sure he was being rbed As such why the fuck didn't you shoot me? You say in which scenario where mafia wants to kill me. Guess what, I think your mafia and you didnt shoot me, thus hey, we are in a scenario in which mafia didn't want to kill me. If you were 99% sure that without your shot I wasn't dying and don't shoot me (your top scum read) then you are fucking scum. Its an obvious setup to a misslynch. And as for snap believe rayn and VA? i still think one of them is likely lying as well. Because again, 6 town kp is fucking retarded broken vs 6 scum. I don't believe town has 7+ non mason roles. But hey, maybe this is cause marv has been around long enough to not only see some of the flames hosts have gotten for that shit hes heard it more than once from people he talks to. I currently however am looking strongly at the one guy who has claimed a role + acted in a way that screams fucking scum.
And after rayn says he's not a hatter, BC doesn't readdress this. He doesn't discuss you vs. mig for truthfulness. He puts you as a null read and doesn't discuss you at all. Despite saying "quote" Mig Yea yea you all are going to be like “but hes a 2 shot vig”. I have no qualms admitting he is very likely the role he claimed. However I really dislike how he handled my pressure on calling him out on his shots and his claim.[/quote] in his fake will, he doesn't mention you period besides null.
Among other things, this is an oddity:
When BC is discussing town KP, he says it's gotta be artanis + (rayn or mig), but can't have 3 town kp. He leaves vayne out, forgets that whole bit.
When rayn claims he wasn't a hatter, BC does not go back and address artanis + (vayne or mig).
When giving his reads, BC says he BELIEVES mig, indicating it's artanis + mig. But he doesn't say you're scummy. He doesn't say you MIGHT be scum. He doesn't address the EXACT SAME SCENARIO that he address with rayn/mig.
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On November 23 2013 11:09 Mig wrote: Yes Risen I just bussed and lead the lynch on the mafia doc. While also being a claimed 2shot vig with a mafia 2shot vig already dead. I obviously must be mafia. You really got this game figured out. Your lack of understanding surrounding the BC last second swap or even consideration of the shenans means to me you are pushing an agenda. So yeah, I think you're scum.
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Oh man austin that's solid as shit :S
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Oops, there's a "quote" and [/quote] there. Post should read:
On November 23 2013 10:55 VayneAuthority wrote: yea the only mad hatter in the game is scum, you got me You've claimed hatter. You also claim that, with the BC lynch, you're out of bombs. + Show Spoiler +On November 22 2013 01:55 VayneAuthority wrote: I lost one of my bombs this game already, my only bomb is on BC. so lynching me just kills both of us On November 23 2013 09:43 VayneAuthority wrote: meh I lose my other bomb then. I'm a VT for all intents and purposes now
If all claims are true, then you think I'm town.
If you don't think I'm town, you recognize that claims don't magically make people town. Nor do crumbs.
Play and flips do.
Yeah, you crumbed a bunch, but BC's posts on town KP are...interesting. On November 21 2013 13:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also HF, its not that I find vaynes claim believable so much as it seems more legit in a way then say, a town vig openly shooting town power roles/players, making excuses to avoid shooting his main read.
IF mig is town then rayne clearly isn't. No way in hell town has 6 night kp + 2 trackers + a med + a rber +apparently now 2 vets
Do you honestly think town has 3 kill roles, 2 dts, a med, a rber and 2 vets + a bunch of masons? Exclusing masons that would leave what ? 9 power roles vs whatever the mafia has? Thats still more power roles than mafia has numbers and incredibly fucking broken for town.
There is no way there are 3 town kp roles. Of those 3 claims 1 is dead and flipped town, 1 has actively shot town. Do I think vayne looks good? Not really but his claim is more believable. BC says it's unlikely mig/artanis/rayne are all town, because that's just too much KP. Despite your claiming hatter too, posting pictures, etc., he doesn't even address your hatter claim or include you. He's specifically addressing town KP and he leaves you out.
After mig/I are arguing with him about this, he finally posts in response to mig talking about BC believing you/rayn but not him:On November 21 2013 14:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 14:21 Mig wrote: It is common sense, I wasnt shooting you artanis said he wasnt. Tell me the scenario where mafia wants to kill you lol. You said yourself you were under the most suspicion. I didnt "know" you wouldnt die but it had to be 99%+.
I refuse to believe you can be town with this thinking. If you were town I think you come back realize I am almost certainly town and work to actually pick out a scum. This is just your mafia hail mary. The fact you snap believe VA and rayn and just push me while refusing to listen to reason seals it. what fucking reason? You seriously believe you can make some bullshit excuse on why you didnt shoot me all because artanis claimed he was going to? You admit you expected to die. You admit you were sure he was being rbed As such why the fuck didn't you shoot me? You say in which scenario where mafia wants to kill me. Guess what, I think your mafia and you didnt shoot me, thus hey, we are in a scenario in which mafia didn't want to kill me. If you were 99% sure that without your shot I wasn't dying and don't shoot me (your top scum read) then you are fucking scum. Its an obvious setup to a misslynch. And as for snap believe rayn and VA? i still think one of them is likely lying as well. Because again, 6 town kp is fucking retarded broken vs 6 scum. I don't believe town has 7+ non mason roles. But hey, maybe this is cause marv has been around long enough to not only see some of the flames hosts have gotten for that shit hes heard it more than once from people he talks to. I currently however am looking strongly at the one guy who has claimed a role + acted in a way that screams fucking scum.
And after rayn says he's not a hatter, BC doesn't readdress this. He doesn't discuss you vs. mig for truthfulness. He puts you as a null read and doesn't discuss you at all. Despite saying Mig Yea yea you all are going to be like “but hes a 2 shot vig”. I have no qualms admitting he is very likely the role he claimed. However I really dislike how he handled my pressure on calling him out on his shots and his claim. in his fake will, he doesn't mention you period besides null.
Among other things, this is an oddity:
When BC is discussing town KP, he says it's gotta be artanis + (rayn or mig), but can't have 3 town kp. He leaves vayne out, forgets that whole bit.
When rayn claims he wasn't a hatter, BC does not go back and address artanis + (vayne or mig).
When giving his reads, BC says he BELIEVES mig, indicating it's artanis + mig. But he doesn't say you're scummy. He doesn't say you MIGHT be scum. He doesn't address the EXACT SAME SCENARIO that he address with rayn/mig.
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