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raynpelikoneet
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Koshi
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:06 Mocsta wrote: Anything sticking out to you worth discussing? Do you have an opinion Storrzergs play? I'd like to hear if you think yamato outing me is alignment indicative or not. Something about raynpelikoneet is bothering me, but I can't pin it down on any specific post. I didn't like how strongly he defended me, though. I was really surprised to hear StorrZerg is not a new player, considering he's played in newbies recently. That makes me a bit confused about how to read him. As the StorrZerg I watched play in newbie game, I'd give him a null, but if he's supposed to be more experienced I'm not so sure if I should be instead leaning scum on him. | ||
raynpelikoneet
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:09 Koshi wrote: Worst reason ever. Why Yamato. Because do you see how people like rayn give LoneMeow a townread for picking Yamato. But how did LoneMeow now this before reading the thread that he had to Mason Yamato. Why not somebody he played with in the newbies? Or somebody that understand how he posts. Or somebody he scumhunts easy with. Why Yamato read my posts regarding this topic. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
Something about raynpelikoneet is bothering me, but I can't pin it down on any specific post. I didn't like how strongly he defended me, though. I don't understand this. Are saying you are acting scummy? | ||
LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:12 Koshi wrote: rofl. Nha. Why Yamato? Because I got the impression that he's pretty solid player when he's town from LXII, so I want to know if he's town in this one, and I think I stand a better chance outside the thread. | ||
Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: No the question is why would mafia!Lonemeow use mason on D1 on yamato, right at the game start, before posting anything at all? No.. fucking.. way. Why not? | ||
LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't understand this. Are saying you are acting scummy? No, I'm saying your logic isn't sound enough to be so sure I'm town. | ||
Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:09 Koshi wrote: Worst reason ever. Why Yamato. Because do you see how people like rayn give LoneMeow a townread for picking Yamato. But how did LoneMeow now this before reading the thread that he had to Mason Yamato. Why not somebody he played with in the newbies? Or somebody that understand how he posts. Or somebody he scumhunts easy with. Why Yamato I explained this earlier. can't quote cos back to a phone now. detailed precise claims are usually scum. and poorly executred!, unbelievable ones are normally town. regardless, lone is not a heavy contributor and this pressure is just going to alienate an already low content poster. back off. lastly the problem I have with your line of questioning is that its not going to produce an alignment indicative outcome. in essence, you are badgering him. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:15 LoneMeow wrote: Because I got the impression that he's pretty solid player when he's town from LXII, so I want to know if he's town in this one, and I think I stand a better chance outside the thread. Ok, let us know how that goes. | ||
raynpelikoneet
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:12 LoneMeow wrote: I'd like to hear if you think yamato outing me is alignment indicative or not. Something about raynpelikoneet is bothering me, but I can't pin it down on any specific post. I didn't like how strongly he defended me, though. I was really surprised to hear StorrZerg is not a new player, considering he's played in newbies recently. That makes me a bit confused about how to read him. As the StorrZerg I watched play in newbie game, I'd give him a null, but if he's supposed to be more experienced I'm not so sure if I should be instead leaning scum on him. I had a town read on yam prior to that. the action to out you did not change that read. its funny. yam normally likes to come out and make a post with 3 to 4 scummers on it, and I find him scummy. he doesn't do that this game and I find him town. | ||
raynpelikoneet
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: yamato you are the only person who i am confident can actually read me on D1. Can you tell these fuckers to look somewhere else because atm the thread is about which one of these two townies (me/lonemeow) is scum and it really does not help. Who's your top scum suspect that you'd prefer we look into instead? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:15 LoneMeow wrote: Because I got the impression that he's pretty solid player when he's town from LXII, so I want to know if he's town in this one, and I think I stand a better chance outside the thread. Here's where I took a step back. You've only seen yamato be town, so therefore you only know his town play. Yet you have played other games with other people in this thread where you have seen them be both town and scum. So, why would you theoretically mason the person that you only know town traits for from one game over the others that you know both traits? This, coupled with the fact that pre-game yamato stated that his meta would be completely different from that game here: On November 15 2013 03:21 yamato77 wrote: As either alignment, I'm going to play this exactly how I played the champs game. I will read the thread in one sitting, make a post detailing my response to things happening in the thread, and perhaps interact with the thread on a limited basis focusing on talking to players I think are town and/or making specific cases against people I want to lynch. On D1, I'll spend the entire day voting for myself as either alignment and doing my best to influence the lynch on whoever I want, which I don't expect to have much success doing. Basically, I'm perfecting a style that I think I can replicate as mafia easily and one that I can also use on a limited schedule like I have now. I need to drastically improve my play as scum anyway before the final champs game so I don't have to roll town to be useful. If you all start voting me because this is different "meta" like you did in the thug life game, I'll probably just stop playing here and test run it on a different mafia site or two. makes me think twice before this actual decision. It is quite possible, as koshi says that a scum team could have told him who the towniest person in the thread was and he could have followed that. I was scum with him last game and the exact same thing happened, he got a power that needed to be used and asked in the QT who to use it on without posting in the thread so much. While there have been points in his favour that people have brought up, I don't think they are alignment indicative at all and I heavily question Yamato's position on bringing it up in the thread like that. He could have waited for comments in their mason chat or actual things happening in the game before revealing but now that point has become moot it leaves any and all posts to be wild speculation at best, removing any form of intel that could have been gathered. | ||
Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: yamato is quite obviously town because he tries to shift the dicussion into right direction. Thanks for this controversial read Rayn. Now scumhunt and stop defending your townreads. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On November 15 2013 23:22 LoneMeow wrote: Who's your top scum suspect that you'd prefer we look into instead? Waiting for Storrzerg's answer to Mocsta.
That's it pretty much from the people who have posted. Still not sold on Koshi's towniness, seems too tryhard which is not his usual townplay. | ||
Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On November 15 2013 12:13 austinmcc wrote: rayn, risen, and sharrant, I want to sit down and chat with you guys. Individually, for the most part. rayn (1) Are you town? (2) Please unpack this statement:What, in particular, did you not like about that post? Does the rest of sharrant's filter do anything for you? risen (1) Honest question, you believe this entirely or is it half for poops and giggles? (2) Beyond that, plox to tell me about Hiro's followup plan: + Show Spoiler + On November 15 2013 09:35 hiro protagonist wrote: Ok, well, out side of my policy lynch, how bout we talk about the positives of a pardner lynch: *We kill off a pro scum role. *It gets people to vote for not just the mayor, but who should be lynched. this means there will be more scumhunting day 1 and less dick wagging. Sharrant (1) Please unpack this statement:Specifically what thoughts do you see, and what do you like about them. I don't care about VE wanting to lynch hiro here, just your thoughts on hiro's thoughts, and on hiro's plan. (2) What do you think about Hiro's followup, voting such that the D1 mayoral lynch would be 2nd in votes, would get the pardoner role, and would get whacked? 1) I thought it was a pretty good idea, I certainly hadn't thought of it. I disagree strongly with the Kush policy lynch, but I really liked the idea of killing the pardoner with the mayor. I got a town lean off of that post, but his followup saying that he wanted to do this as either alignment before the game started put it back to null. 2) I think if we can come to a consensus about who we want as mayor, we should put his lynch up to the second vote spot so we do eliminated the pardoner. If the race is too close, obviously that plan will not work though. __________________________ @VE I still want to know what you actually meant with your post on Hiro. If you answered it somewhere, I didn't see it (and I'd appreciate it if you could point it out), but you've referenced me several times and not clarified it. Getting annoying. __________________________ If I were going to lynch someone right now, it would be Rayn. We had a big thing in the first day of whichever game we played together (Boardwalk maybe?) before we eventually settled on both of us being town. I'm surprised to see him jump on such a non-issue. To clarify for you, Rayn. Of the people that had posted at that time, VE was by far the towniest, and the only townie looking player who I would consider for mayor. Supersoft and BC are both players that I would consider for mayor, but they had not posted, so they were null. But those 3 are the basics of who I would consider to elect mayor unless someone really puts forth something impressive. Still surprised you said my post seemed "too serious" since you've played with me before. Side note: I think you're way too confident in LoneMeow being town. I see his mason choice as pretty much entirely null at this point. This is suspicious to me. __________________________ Since it was a bit of a conversation earlier, and I love talking about myself: Saying I get mislynched every game is pretty accurate. Maybe I misread but it sounded like someone said I was lynched as scum in some game, I've never rolled scum. | ||
LoneMeow
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