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On November 15 2013 22:50 Mocsta wrote:@Supersoft, - 2 questions (1) Is VE still dodgy, or has artanis taken his stead? + (2) What do you think of Hopeless1der? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Hopeless1derI am aware that he was only present during the very early game where trolling is common; however, I find this quote unusual for town to make. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run? Maybe this is written very dry and the joke is going over my head; but I am interpreting this as giving contemplation to voting VE. BTW, which occurs here: Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 15 2013 08:49 Coagulation wrote:On November 15 2013 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
Any campaign for kush gets a solid "yeah, no" from me. No offense to kush but I did kind of tell yamato i wanted to win. kush is really good at scum hunting actually. probably better than 90% of the players here. Hes just non communique *must...not...feeed....troll* ##Vote: VisceraEyes My issue is that, I don't think a townie would given any sort of consideration to that criteria for considering a mayor. Fact is, town want in a mayor someone they think is a good player + standing out as town + has identified why their lynch choice is a solid candidate. You're a deep analyser of motivation; do you agree that the above is not evident in the mindset of Hopelss1der?
(1) No, I am slightly leaning town on both of them right now. Their behaviour fits their townplay. it's okay. Feel slightly better about VE. Artanis is little more than 0.
(2) got to think about this.
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On November 15 2013 22:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Uh why are you believing what Lonemeow says rayn?
Why are you asking dumb questions?
I just told why i find it extremely unlikely he would have done that as scum. The other option is that he is town and telling the truth.
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@Mocsta's post/rest of the game (I think artanis said the same things I said about rayn at some point too?)
I'm sorry, what, the past few pages have been literal reitterations of what I've already stated, how is this anything new??
I get if you agree with what I've said
Here for reference:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 12:05 Holyflare wrote:fml I had to write this out twice because I had so many tabs open ~_~ @ rayn's post earlier: HereYou claim that my case was in fact bad but then you agree with everything that I had specifically laid out within it, what gives? Did you just not read it? Clearly there were no good reads at that present time and for a mayor to be established reads must be thrown around, which is exactly what I was saying. Your choice of mayor is based entirely off if you agree with their reads? Why? You also debase the entirety of it because of the one line that said if "I failed to lynch my top scum read S". The plurality in reads assumes that one would live past day 1 and be able to use their double voting power as you cannot lynch multiple reads on day 1. There is also: Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay ignoring Risen for the rest of D1. You were scum partners with risen in heavyweight. You know he is crazy and will literally do anything or write anything to win. How can you be so quick to have a town read on him based off of a post? He has won world champs and also has the "best mafia play" award or whatever. To quite openly say you will not read him for the rest of day 1 is making me apprehensive to say the least. ____________________________________________________________________________ @rest of the town Also some other things that struck me as odd; Hopeless' start to the game: Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run? I've played one game with this guy and in that game (he was town) at the very start he was trying to contribute to current conversations and get things talking. This games start has been very lackluster from him. After asking VE about his past mayor games VE responds that he has been mayor once and he died night 1. By no means are they solid credentials in any terms. His contributions were just useless "won't vote for kush" posts. He then drops his mayor vote onto VE after hearing about his 1 game experience and leaves the thread. _____________________________________________________________________________________ I'm actually leaning a bit more suspiciously towards rayn right now; however I thought it was interesting to see these 2 posts just as I refreshed. + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:05 Risen wrote:
I'll vote anyone who makes their platform lynching rayn. You get modkilled for not voting. :p
What's wrongwith Oats this game? He's like a bit more dick than usually. On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Oats baby. Read my case again I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game. He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game.
Oats, shy are you so prickly this game.
Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E Obviously no associative tells between unflipped players yada yada but I find it "psychologically intriguing" when people bring up similarities like that. Obviously if you are scum, the posts that stick out to you the most are your scum partners and so you can subconsciously repeat them etc. However, this is a lackluster point to say the least just something I'd thought I'd note.
but to copy it and make it look like your own thoughts and then ask people for their ideas on it is kind of a pain in the arse, at least give credit where credit is due
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On November 15 2013 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 22:49 Koshi wrote:On November 15 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Koshi he is town for masoning yamato. No, he is not town for masoning yamato. Or explain to me why it is litterally impossible for scum to mason yamato. Because it's really bad scumplay and Lonemeow as scum mason would have gone into scumchat and asked what to do with the mason instead of picking someone, especially yamato, from the playerlist.
I don't think masoning yamato is *that* big a deal.
He said early game he might not be able to devote full attention to this game.
Having said that: LoneMeows reasoning detailed above, I suppose is townie by virtue of: claims that are so far-fetched/stupid are usually from town (i.e. scum try to have claims that are *too* perfect)
In the end, I hope LoneMeow is active this game, I dont want to be put in that mislynch scenario again... *sigh*
So, if worse comes to worse with lone, then considering yam is a fairly strong town read for me currently. I would probably defer to his judgement based on the mason logs.
LoneMeow
Is it safe to assume you have caught up on the thread?
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On November 15 2013 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 22:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Uh why are you believing what Lonemeow says rayn? Why are you asking dumb questions? I just told why i find it extremely unlikely he would have done that as scum. The other option is that he is town and telling the truth.
???????
So lonemeow cannot lie about picking yamato off the list?
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On November 15 2013 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 22:49 Koshi wrote:On November 15 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Koshi he is town for masoning yamato. No, he is not town for masoning yamato. Or explain to me why it is litterally impossible for scum to mason yamato. Because it's really bad scumplay and Lonemeow as scum mason would have gone into scumchat and asked what to do with the mason instead of picking someone, especially yamato, from the playerlist.
How do you know Lonemeow picked Yamato out of the playerlist randomly as town?
Why would Lonemeow do that as town? Is there an history between Lonemeow and Yamato that you know about?
How are you so sure that scum didn't tell LoneMeow to do so? How do you know scum LoneMeow won't lurk 24/7 in this game like in Noir? Making 2 posts a day and simply riding the Mason claim for today?
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On November 15 2013 22:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
HF campaign was null. I have already said my views on this.
Agreed.
Probably the worse thing about is, was that it was verbose.
I would have thought that if Rayn had a genuine read on HF due to the campaign, he would have filter-dived him by now and generated something.
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We are not arguing about LM. Find better things to talk about.
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On November 15 2013 22:57 Mocsta wrote:
LoneMeow
Is it safe to assume you have caught up on the thread?
Yes, I'm caught up now.
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I am not arguing to find out LM his alignment.
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Like BC perhaps
Everyone is ignoring the fact he hasn't said shit all in actuality
Wanna see him hang tbh
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On November 15 2013 23:02 yamato77 wrote:
Like BC perhaps
Everyone is ignoring the fact he hasn't said shit all in actuality
Wanna see him hang tbh
He has arguably said more than the majority of lurkers in this thread, though most of it has been accusatory and aggressive with no real conviction.
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On November 15 2013 22:57 Holyflare wrote:@Mocsta's post/rest of the game (I think artanis said the same things I said about rayn at some point too?) I'm sorry, what, the past few pages have been literal reitterations of what I've already stated, how is this anything new?? I get if you agree with what I've said Here for reference: + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 12:05 Holyflare wrote:fml I had to write this out twice because I had so many tabs open ~_~ @ rayn's post earlier: HereYou claim that my case was in fact bad but then you agree with everything that I had specifically laid out within it, what gives? Did you just not read it? Clearly there were no good reads at that present time and for a mayor to be established reads must be thrown around, which is exactly what I was saying. Your choice of mayor is based entirely off if you agree with their reads? Why? You also debase the entirety of it because of the one line that said if "I failed to lynch my top scum read S". The plurality in reads assumes that one would live past day 1 and be able to use their double voting power as you cannot lynch multiple reads on day 1. There is also: Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay ignoring Risen for the rest of D1. You were scum partners with risen in heavyweight. You know he is crazy and will literally do anything or write anything to win. How can you be so quick to have a town read on him based off of a post? He has won world champs and also has the "best mafia play" award or whatever. To quite openly say you will not read him for the rest of day 1 is making me apprehensive to say the least. ____________________________________________________________________________ @rest of the town Also some other things that struck me as odd; Hopeless' start to the game: Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run? I've played one game with this guy and in that game (he was town) at the very start he was trying to contribute to current conversations and get things talking. This games start has been very lackluster from him. After asking VE about his past mayor games VE responds that he has been mayor once and he died night 1. By no means are they solid credentials in any terms. His contributions were just useless "won't vote for kush" posts. He then drops his mayor vote onto VE after hearing about his 1 game experience and leaves the thread. _____________________________________________________________________________________ I'm actually leaning a bit more suspiciously towards rayn right now; however I thought it was interesting to see these 2 posts just as I refreshed. + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:05 Risen wrote:
I'll vote anyone who makes their platform lynching rayn. You get modkilled for not voting. :p
What's wrongwith Oats this game? He's like a bit more dick than usually. On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Oats baby. Read my case again I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game. He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game.
Oats, shy are you so prickly this game.
Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E Obviously no associative tells between unflipped players yada yada but I find it "psychologically intriguing" when people bring up similarities like that. Obviously if you are scum, the posts that stick out to you the most are your scum partners and so you can subconsciously repeat them etc. However, this is a lackluster point to say the least just something I'd thought I'd note. but to copy it and make it look like your own thoughts and then ask people for their ideas on it is kind of a pain in the arse, at least give credit where credit is due
*scratches head*
OK, I will accept that tone for now; but in all seriousness, I didn't even know you wrote that.
I re-read the game and that was something that was sticking out for me.
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Yeah BC's posts have been really weak.
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LoneMeow
Explain to me why you Masoned Yamato.
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On November 15 2013 23:01 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 22:57 Mocsta wrote:
LoneMeow
Is it safe to assume you have caught up on the thread? Yes, I'm caught up now.
Anything sticking out to you worth discussing?
Do you have an opinion Storrzergs play?
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On November 15 2013 23:05 Koshi wrote:
LoneMeow
Explain to me why you Masoned Yamato.
L2R
On November 15 2013 22:46 LoneMeow wrote:
Just to clear up why I masoned before posting:
I read my role and it said to send the PM "at the beginning of cycle". It already being quite a few hours since the cycle started when I woke up, I just looked at the player list and picked someone before reading the thread.
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Koshi
Since you're asking dumb questions.
Here is one for you.
On November 15 2013 08:47 Koshi wrote:
Can we lynch BH if he isn't totally awesome day 1? Like. I never get to see BH being awesome. He claims to be awesome though.
Were you serious about advocating a policy lynch?
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On November 15 2013 23:06 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 23:05 Koshi wrote:
LoneMeow
Explain to me why you Masoned Yamato. L2R Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 22:46 LoneMeow wrote:
Just to clear up why I masoned before posting:
I read my role and it said to send the PM "at the beginning of cycle". It already being quite a few hours since the cycle started when I woke up, I just looked at the player list and picked someone before reading the thread.
Worst reason ever. Why Yamato.
Because do you see how people like rayn give LoneMeow a townread for picking Yamato. But how did LoneMeow now this before reading the thread that he had to Mason Yamato. Why not somebody he played with in the newbies? Or somebody that understand how he posts. Or somebody he scumhunts easy with.
Why Yamato
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On November 15 2013 23:08 Mocsta wrote:KoshiSince you're asking dumb questions. Here is one for you. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 08:47 Koshi wrote:
Can we lynch BH if he isn't totally awesome day 1? Like. I never get to see BH being awesome. He claims to be awesome though. Were you serious about advocating a policy lynch?
I want BH to be awesome.
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