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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 15 2013 14:48 GMT
#921
Ok Im on page 31 had to play with my son in between reading. First impressions of things that have so far stuck out to me.


I miss the old alakaslam :/ he just like a regular player now... Maybe thats a good thing. The whole VE thing I dont have good grip on the situation but I think people are overblowing his thoughts. Supersoft is who I am more concerned with while reading. I have been paying attention to rayns posts and nothing is sticking out as scum to me, but that was the same day one in witchcraft, I then saw something day two and his responses are what made me jump on him that game. Yamato is looking fairly townie at the moment. I was ok ish with HF mayor post, seeing it was prewritten makes me feel nothing one way or the other. Still reading if I see anything else I will respond. Again I go by feel with my reads.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 15 2013 14:49 GMT
#922
On November 15 2013 21:22 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 20:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 15 2013 20:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm tired of answering stuff regarding ss. I don't like playing with him and would like to see him removed for that reason, but I'm not going to go on about it unless he either becomes an actual candidate or I see something explicitly scummy about him.

Oats, what do you think about Rayn?

you couldve /outed.
I think rayn is pretty scummy but I wanna know what the people who played the last game with him think.



Ok I will look I was the first person to tunnel rayn and call him scum in witchcraft. Reading thread now.

What happened to this Onegu?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 15 2013 14:50 GMT
#923
Oh shit sorry i misread your post.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 15 2013 14:51 GMT
#924
It's difficult to interact with BC when he is neither here nor has he given me anything in particular worth responding to. The latter, in and of itself, is telling. His meaningless platitudes are too late in the game to simply excuse, especially without substance to offset them.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
November 15 2013 14:51 GMT
#925
On November 15 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean:
Show nested quote +
the risak of losing a town BC far exceeds the gain from losing a scum BC, this early on in my opinion.

this is pretty bad..
Show nested quote +
BC could be scum, but you aren't even trying to interact with him to develop the read further.
it comes down to asset management.
BC is a highly respected vet. let's entertain you and say he is scum.
there are still 5 others out there, 4 if you include storrzerg.

...but this is pretty good.

???
a day1 town BC loss is a massive win for scum.

if he is scum and lynched. course its a good win fie town, but the team still has 5 members and can continue as before.

I think in this scenario, the benefit of a town vet outweighs a scum vet.
its why people say leave marv and palmar to day 2 or 3 regardless of performance.
BC fits into that grouping.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 15 2013 14:51 GMT
#926
On November 15 2013 23:47 Mocsta wrote:
koshi...,

the credibility keeps dropping, wtf..,,

if filter dived as for real, its clear ve is town and yam is town.,,,


koshi, again, why aren't u running for mayor?

I don't even know what you are saying here.
But I would say that Yam and VE look pretty town. Are you telling me that supersoft his actions that I quoted proved that and therefore can't be scum or what?

I don't know why I should run for Mayor. For me running for Mayor is just for shit and giggles. But I simply didn't know how to approach it early game.
I had a good night of sleep.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 14:53 GMT
#927
On November 15 2013 23:43 Koshi wrote:
supersoft
Do you really want to be Mayor? Your first post:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:59 supersoft wrote:
okay okay okay, i think we need to elect me for mayor. Otherwise it's yet another game where i pass away n1.


Your second post is you trying to stir up Yamato/VE who were at that point the most active posters in the thread that also wanted to be Mayor. The same second that you posted this you should have known that they would be mad. Why did you post this?
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else.

Oats said that you search for confrontation and are able to read people after that? But to me this looks like plain old shitting up the thread for no reason at all.
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:19 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

Yeah, super's mafia.


oh god, you're reatarded.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:21 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

This is false. Please address the post where I explain what my reasoning for not liking your statement actually is.


On November 15 2013 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else.

Fuck this. This is garbage.


You mean this peace of wisdom???

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:24 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

Yeah, super's mafia.

Not so fast super-friend. super is an arrogant ass regardless of alignment. We must continue to observe. Patiently.

super's not this bad as town, is he?

super does stuff like say controversial stuff to see how people react. Is it bad? Who's to say? I'm willing to write him off as arrogant and observe others. What do you think of Oats and his blatant lies? Typical non-reading-shittalking? Or something slightly more sinister?


Write me off and "observe others"
you're pretty dodgy.

...

You enter the thread claiming that you need to be elected. But instead of gathering support you are shitting up the thread and annoying the living shit out of VE and Yamato. Why? If you want to be elected, wouldn't it be better to play nice with these 2?

Btw, what is your read on VE and Yamato atm?


My campaign doesnt include being nice. I want people to vote for me because it's the right way to win this game.
I die n1 in about 80% of my towngames, so it makes perfect sense to protect me.

I don't care if they get angry or not or whatever. All i care about is finding scum among them. I love to see when people comment on me, since I know that I am town and scum knows that I am town. Only townies don't know my alignment and therefor their analysis of my play isn't artificial or biased.
it's my way to play day1. after day1 when I have some flips, I reread the thread and see what people said about the people that flipped. But for now I only know my alignment. Does that make sense to you...?

+ If you filter me correctly and not only read my first few posts where i provoke reactions, you wouldn't ask questions about my reads on VE and yamato. I already said, that yamato established himself well as town, and i also already said, that i lean town on VE.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 15 2013 14:53 GMT
#928
On November 15 2013 23:51 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean:
the risak of losing a town BC far exceeds the gain from losing a scum BC, this early on in my opinion.

this is pretty bad..
BC could be scum, but you aren't even trying to interact with him to develop the read further.
it comes down to asset management.
BC is a highly respected vet. let's entertain you and say he is scum.
there are still 5 others out there, 4 if you include storrzerg.

...but this is pretty good.

???
a day1 town BC loss is a massive win for scum.

if he is scum and lynched. course its a good win fie town, but the team still has 5 members and can continue as before.

I think in this scenario, the benefit of a town vet outweighs a scum vet.
its why people say leave marv and palmar to day 2 or 3 regardless of performance.
BC fits into that grouping.

It's bad because we lynch BC if he is scum and we don't lynch him if he is town.
The argument of weighing the pros and cons of lynching him is nonsense.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
November 15 2013 14:54 GMT
#929
On November 15 2013 23:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 23:47 Mocsta wrote:
koshi...,

the credibility keeps dropping, wtf..,,

if filter dived as for real, its clear ve is town and yam is town.,,,


koshi, again, why aren't u running for mayor?

I don't even know what you are saying here.
But I would say that Yam and VE look pretty town. Are you telling me that supersoft his actions that I quoted proved that and therefore can't be scum or what?

I don't know why I should run for Mayor. For me running for Mayor is just for shit and giggles. But I simply didn't know how to approach it early game.

sorry auto correct.

ss recent filter clearly states her has town reads on yam and ve
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
November 15 2013 14:55 GMT
#930
On November 15 2013 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 23:51 Mocsta wrote:
On November 15 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean:
the risak of losing a town BC far exceeds the gain from losing a scum BC, this early on in my opinion.

this is pretty bad..
BC could be scum, but you aren't even trying to interact with him to develop the read further.
it comes down to asset management.
BC is a highly respected vet. let's entertain you and say he is scum.
there are still 5 others out there, 4 if you include storrzerg.

...but this is pretty good.

???
a day1 town BC loss is a massive win for scum.

if he is scum and lynched. course its a good win fie town, but the team still has 5 members and can continue as before.

I think in this scenario, the benefit of a town vet outweighs a scum vet.
its why people say leave marv and palmar to day 2 or 3 regardless of performance.
BC fits into that grouping.

It's bad because we lynch BC if he is scum and we don't lynch him if he is town.
The argument of weighing the pros and cons of lynching him is nonsense.

there's a difference thinking someone is scum and wanting to lynch them.

I'm not going to say anything else on the matter.

we can agree to disagree.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 15 2013 14:57 GMT
#931
On November 15 2013 23:51 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean:
the risak of losing a town BC far exceeds the gain from losing a scum BC, this early on in my opinion.

this is pretty bad..
BC could be scum, but you aren't even trying to interact with him to develop the read further.
it comes down to asset management.
BC is a highly respected vet. let's entertain you and say he is scum.
there are still 5 others out there, 4 if you include storrzerg.

...but this is pretty good.

???
a day1 town BC loss is a massive win for scum.

if he is scum and lynched. course its a good win fie town, but the team still has 5 members and can continue as before.

I think in this scenario, the benefit of a town vet outweighs a scum vet.
its why people say leave marv and palmar to day 2 or 3 regardless of performance.
BC fits into that grouping.

There are likely more town vets than there are scum vets, so it is actually worse for scum to lose what is potentially their leader than it is for town to lose one vet amongst five or six people who could reasonably lead the game.

But again, I have never believed in putting off lynches just for vet status. This is a bad argument and I don't agree in the slightest. You're just giving them more time alive for no good reason. He has to earn the right to live in my town just like the rest of you do.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 15 2013 15:00 GMT
#932
I would quote the wise Palmar from Ego mini mafia but i am too lazy so i put it her in my own words.

BC hangs like any other player in this game and we lynch him if he is scum.

No need to give anyone a free pass because of some arbitary status.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 15 2013 15:00 GMT
#933
So Moc, do you think BC is scum or town?

Because it seems like you agree that you think he is scummy, yet oppose his lynch on highly dubious grounds.

If that's the case, I'll grant your wish and we'll lynch you in lieu of BC.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
November 15 2013 15:00 GMT
#934
On November 15 2013 23:57 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 23:51 Mocsta wrote:
On November 15 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean:
the risak of losing a town BC far exceeds the gain from losing a scum BC, this early on in my opinion.

this is pretty bad..
BC could be scum, but you aren't even trying to interact with him to develop the read further.
it comes down to asset management.
BC is a highly respected vet. let's entertain you and say he is scum.
there are still 5 others out there, 4 if you include storrzerg.

...but this is pretty good.

???
a day1 town BC loss is a massive win for scum.

if he is scum and lynched. course its a good win fie town, but the team still has 5 members and can continue as before.

I think in this scenario, the benefit of a town vet outweighs a scum vet.
its why people say leave marv and palmar to day 2 or 3 regardless of performance.
BC fits into that grouping.

There are likely more town vets than there are scum vets, so it is actually worse for scum to lose what is potentially their leader than it is for town to lose one vet amongst five or six people who could reasonably lead the game.

But again, I have never believed in putting off lynches just for vet status. This is a bad argument and I don't agree in the slightest. You're just giving them more time alive for no good reason. He has to earn the right to live in my town just like the rest of you do.
wires are crossed here.

I am completely against vets standing on a pedestal, or hiding behind reputation.

I am also against someone establishing townieness and then trying to push a lynch off feeling.
you haven't convinced me BC is the best lynch for today, and your approach is not conducive yo changing my mind either.

Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 15 2013 15:00 GMT
#935
Ok I missed that 1 line in which supersoft says he leans town on VE and Yam. Not the biggest fan on how he entered the thread. But it's cool.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
November 15 2013 15:04 GMT
#936
On November 16 2013 00:00 yamato77 wrote:
So Moc, do you think BC is scum or town?

Because it seems like you agree that you think he is scummy, yet oppose his lynch on highly dubious grounds.

If that's the case, I'll grant your wish and we'll lynch you in lieu of BC.

stop being a douche.

you may be a town read, but you don't have more votes than me. get off the high horse.

as for the question.
off memory I had no issue with BC. its prob ego based though as he supported my RNG thoughts on storrzerg.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 15 2013 15:04 GMT
#937
On November 16 2013 00:00 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 23:57 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 23:51 Mocsta wrote:
On November 15 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean:
the risak of losing a town BC far exceeds the gain from losing a scum BC, this early on in my opinion.

this is pretty bad..
BC could be scum, but you aren't even trying to interact with him to develop the read further.
it comes down to asset management.
BC is a highly respected vet. let's entertain you and say he is scum.
there are still 5 others out there, 4 if you include storrzerg.

...but this is pretty good.

???
a day1 town BC loss is a massive win for scum.

if he is scum and lynched. course its a good win fie town, but the team still has 5 members and can continue as before.

I think in this scenario, the benefit of a town vet outweighs a scum vet.
its why people say leave marv and palmar to day 2 or 3 regardless of performance.
BC fits into that grouping.

There are likely more town vets than there are scum vets, so it is actually worse for scum to lose what is potentially their leader than it is for town to lose one vet amongst five or six people who could reasonably lead the game.

But again, I have never believed in putting off lynches just for vet status. This is a bad argument and I don't agree in the slightest. You're just giving them more time alive for no good reason. He has to earn the right to live in my town just like the rest of you do.
wires are crossed here.

I am completely against vets standing on a pedestal, or hiding behind reputation.

I am also against someone establishing townieness and then trying to push a lynch off feeling.
you haven't convinced me BC is the best lynch for today, and your approach is not conducive yo changing my mind either.


That's not what you said. You clearly argued for vet protection for essentially no good reason. But whatever.

What would you like me to do, point out specific posts where he says nothing? If you don't agree that he's essentially posting fluff, why don't you give your read on the matter? Right now it seems like you just want to play foil.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 15 2013 15:05 GMT
#938
Koshi why are you so weird? Are you scum?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 15 2013 15:05 GMT
#939
Oh and slam is town, unless while he was gone he was playing on another site. I dont see a scum slam comeing in here and being all legible and open like he is. Second I dont like grack and his defense of storrzerg. First storrzerg doesnt need it and the way grack is doing it saying he is just out of newbie games is giving off warning bells to me.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 15 2013 15:06 GMT
#940
On November 15 2013 14:00 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 13:55 Pandain wrote:
Nooo don't do this to me Kush


K

I think I am like Coag this game

Go to 1:10 ok.




And we have a video, and he has also wrote svengali. Im ok now.
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