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Also, everyone thinks their playstyle is the same as both town and scum because that would be the ideal thing to do, if that were the case nobody could have any meta on you at all and so when you asked yamato if you were definitely town because he could "read" you, he must therefore be wrong too. So which is it? Are you the best mafia player with an impeccable playstyle or could it be that someone actually analyses you in a correct manner?
Well you are calling me scum besides ~5 other players so you definitely have no idea what you are talking about.
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On November 16 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 00:24 Holyflare wrote:Also what i mean on the reads front is that when you post your read about someone it is usually based on 1 or 2 lines of you saying something that a person did. This means I have to read up to see if it actually makes sense and to confirm what you are saying and when you do give a read off the top of your head I expect you to follow it up with some reasoning: re: On November 15 2013 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 15 2013 23:22 LoneMeow wrote:On November 15 2013 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato you are the only person who i am confident can actually read me on D1. Can you tell these fuckers to look somewhere else because atm the thread is about which one of these two townies (me/lonemeow) is scum and it really does not help. Who's your top scum suspect that you'd prefer we look into instead? Waiting for Storrzerg's answer to Mocsta. - Holyflare i still think is scum but i don't care to write a big post about it right now.
- Grack had couple of bad posts, one of which i pointed out and another one where he says he does not bother reading me or Koshi because impossible - which is not correct, at least regarding Koshi.
- BC's posts have been bad.
- supersoft got a little better but still dislike him.
- Sharrant for being exited before the game and then not being exited at all when the game starts.
That's it pretty much from the people who have posted. Still not sold on Koshi's towniness, seems too tryhard which is not his usual townplay. Yeah i could quote all their posts and say "this is bad", "this is also bad", "this is incorrect" but i don't care. If you are not willing to do the work yourself and take a look if you think i am right or not then you are lazy or scum. And that is something that definitely does not make me scum like you seem to be implying.
Huh? I'm implying that you are town........??
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You were implying i was scum earlier. I don't even know why because you never really told me.
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On November 15 2013 20:44 supersoft wrote:
"hey dude, long time no see <3"
"I love you, in a bro way, yo"
"gonna vote VE, because he's a cool guy"
"i am happy to lynch Supers, because he's not nice"
Guys... what's wrong with you?
This is golden.
I was essentially attacking earlier who I now support
Lookit Alakaslam lapse in logic more than once yeahhh
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On November 15 2013 23:12 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 23:06 Mocsta wrote:On November 15 2013 23:01 LoneMeow wrote:On November 15 2013 22:57 Mocsta wrote:
LoneMeow
Is it safe to assume you have caught up on the thread? Yes, I'm caught up now. Anything sticking out to you worth discussing? Do you have an opinion Storrzergs play? I'd like to hear if you think yamato outing me is alignment indicative or not. Something about raynpelikoneet is bothering me, but I can't pin it down on any specific post. I didn't like how strongly he defended me, though. I was really surprised to hear StorrZerg is not a new player, considering he's played in newbies recently. That makes me a bit confused about how to read him. As the StorrZerg I watched play in newbie game, I'd give him a null, but if he's supposed to be more experienced I'm not so sure if I should be instead leaning scum on him.
For the first part I would lean more town on him for outing you. First if you posted in thread I dont think he would say you masoned him. Second as scum it gains him nothing to out you in thread.
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On November 15 2013 20:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 20:42 supersoft wrote:
pfff always the same with you guys... this is a game. Play your role. Play to win. This isn't a forum to friendly chat with each other. this is mafia, you want to create an uncomfortable situation for scum. Friendly chatting with each other is a situation which is optimal for scum.
Scum has to be afraid to post, because everything will be looked very closely.
If you think it's okay to post things that are completely against your wincondition, you're wrong here and you're playing bad. You realize that there's a bit of a gap between being overly friendly and antagonizing every single person you see at any given opportunity right? Posts like Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else. Are never going to help town because it's going to get a bunch of townies mad. People that are mad tend to not enjoy playing the game. People that don't enjoy the game either spam the thread to show their anger, making it unreadable, or cut down on their posting drastically. This isn't a game of extremes, and this isn't the first time people have told you this as you're well aware of given you started with "always the same with you guys". Perhaps some inner reflection is in order? People play games because they enjoy them. That's the entire point of the game. It's in fact possible to analyze people without being a dick. You just haven't tried yet. If you're willing to do that, then I'm happy to give my full collaboration. Unless you're scum of course, in which case you shall die a horrible fiery death.
This is also good.
Avoid insults and read the thread and find mafia. Easier said than done but it can be done.
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On November 16 2013 00:38 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 20:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 15 2013 20:42 supersoft wrote:
pfff always the same with you guys... this is a game. Play your role. Play to win. This isn't a forum to friendly chat with each other. this is mafia, you want to create an uncomfortable situation for scum. Friendly chatting with each other is a situation which is optimal for scum.
Scum has to be afraid to post, because everything will be looked very closely.
If you think it's okay to post things that are completely against your wincondition, you're wrong here and you're playing bad. You realize that there's a bit of a gap between being overly friendly and antagonizing every single person you see at any given opportunity right? Posts like On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else. Are never going to help town because it's going to get a bunch of townies mad. People that are mad tend to not enjoy playing the game. People that don't enjoy the game either spam the thread to show their anger, making it unreadable, or cut down on their posting drastically. This isn't a game of extremes, and this isn't the first time people have told you this as you're well aware of given you started with "always the same with you guys". Perhaps some inner reflection is in order? People play games because they enjoy them. That's the entire point of the game. It's in fact possible to analyze people without being a dick. You just haven't tried yet. If you're willing to do that, then I'm happy to give my full collaboration. Unless you're scum of course, in which case you shall die a horrible fiery death. This is also good. Avoid insults and read the thread and find mafia. Easier said than done but it can be done.
And who provoked a good post like that? Man I am on fire this game.
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Holyflare basically your read's on me evolvement makes absolutely no sense.
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On November 16 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You were implying i was scum earlier. I don't even know why because you never really told me.
I made a whole post on you, it's not my fault if you haven't read it. About 3 people have copied it since then so it's no excuse. You disregarded risen after 1 post and called him town for NO reason (you have rectified this since then) and called my post bad (lol) because you misread what I intended. You jumped over me on a campaign that was better than the other campaigns currently put out which seemed irrational and scum raynish but you have backed off since then and started to develop other reads etc.
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On November 15 2013 21:59 supersoft wrote:
btw. Artanis, i thought about our little conversation. I don't buy it, that you think i am a dick and you'd /outed that game if you'd seen that i am /in.
This story is weak covering attempt for your scummy statement, that you're completely happy lynching me, even though, you think I am 0 (obviously you know that I am town, since you're scum, so your statements make even more sense.)
Everyone calls you vet and I don't see it. Yes you make cool posts but here you misconstrue town sentiments into Artanis alone and make a target. How is vet defined.
I can see nothing to say you are better than any particular person in the thread if you are to keep posting like this.
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On November 15 2013 22:07 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 22:06 Holyflare wrote:On November 15 2013 21:59 supersoft wrote:
btw. Artanis, i thought about our little conversation. I don't buy it, that you think i am a dick and you'd /outed that game if you'd seen that i am /in.
This story is weak covering attempt for your scummy statement, that you're completely happy lynching me, even though, you think I am 0 (obviously you know that I am town, since you're scum, so your statements make even more sense.) This is beyond childish and I can't see any logical thought path behind what you are saying. He calls you a dick and said he would lynch you for it, it's clearly policy, being an active dick in the thread isn't helping anyone. A scum artanis could just ignore you because you shit up the thread and get people edgy, what benefit is there to calling you out on it? A town player on the other hand can most definitely say what he has been saying. I just don't buy his story. It's artificial and exaggerated
Prove that it is artificial. I don't deny it's exaggerated as I had none of the negative sentiments about being a phallus.
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On November 16 2013 00:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You were implying i was scum earlier. I don't even know why because you never really told me. I made a whole post on you, it's not my fault if you haven't read it. About 3 people have copied it since then so it's no excuse. You disregarded risen after 1 post and called him town for NO reason (you have rectified this since then) and called my post bad (lol) because you misread what I intended. You jumped over me on a campaign that was better than the other campaigns currently put out which seemed irrational and scum raynish but you have backed off since then and started to develop other reads etc.
You are totally twisting my words. scum.
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just read it to the end okay? ^_^
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So Holyflare is scum and should be lynched on D1.
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On November 15 2013 23:48 Onegu wrote:
Ok Im on page 31 had to play with my son in between reading. First impressions of things that have so far stuck out to me.
I miss the old alakaslam :/ he just like a regular player now... Maybe thats a good thing. The whole VE thing I dont have good grip on the situation but I think people are overblowing his thoughts. Supersoft is who I am more concerned with while reading. I have been paying attention to rayns posts and nothing is sticking out as scum to me, but that was the same day one in witchcraft, I then saw something day two and his responses are what made me jump on him that game. Yamato is looking fairly townie at the moment. I was ok ish with HF mayor post, seeing it was prewritten makes me feel nothing one way or the other. Still reading if I see anything else I will respond. Again I go by feel with my reads.
CHUPAZI du TAKAGIZM
WANHAULANCHUI KIANZZOR
SALAAM BARAHAT
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If you miss that I question your alignment XD
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VOTE COUNT:
OOHCHILD (2) : Grackaroni, Pandain
VisceraEyes (2) : VisceraEyes, Hopeless1der
yamato77 (2) : yamato77, OOHCHILD
hiro protagonist (1) : hiro protagonist
Mocsta (1) : OOHCHILD (X), Mocsta
supersoft (1) : supersoft
Not voting (22) : Alakaslam, Artanis[Xp], austinmcc, BlazingHand, BloodyC0bbler, Coagulation, Holyflare, Koshi, LoneMeow, Mattchew, Mig, Mr. Cheesecake, Oatsmaster, Onegu, raynpelikoneet, Risen, Sharrant, Skanjab1s, Spaghetticus, StorrZerg, Stutters695, VayneAuthority
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Election is in 33 hours. Voting is mandatory.
Currently OOHCHILD will be elected Mayor and VisceraEyes will be elected Pardoner!
If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.
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Please inform the thread with quotes and evidence where I have twisted your words because I can do the same for you:
On November 15 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay ignoring Risen for the rest of D1.
To which I made a case because what you said was utter shite here:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 12:05 Holyflare wrote:fml I had to write this out twice because I had so many tabs open ~_~ @ rayn's post earlier: HereYou claim that my case was in fact bad but then you agree with everything that I had specifically laid out within it, what gives? Did you just not read it? Clearly there were no good reads at that present time and for a mayor to be established reads must be thrown around, which is exactly what I was saying. Your choice of mayor is based entirely off if you agree with their reads? Why? You also debase the entirety of it because of the one line that said if "I failed to lynch my top scum read S". The plurality in reads assumes that one would live past day 1 and be able to use their double voting power as you cannot lynch multiple reads on day 1. There is also: Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay ignoring Risen for the rest of D1. You were scum partners with risen in heavyweight. You know he is crazy and will literally do anything or write anything to win. How can you be so quick to have a town read on him based off of a post? He has won world champs and also has the "best mafia play" award or whatever. To quite openly say you will not read him for the rest of day 1 is making me apprehensive to say the least. ____________________________________________________________________________ @rest of the town Also some other things that struck me as odd; Hopeless' start to the game: Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run? I've played one game with this guy and in that game (he was town) at the very start he was trying to contribute to current conversations and get things talking. This games start has been very lackluster from him. After asking VE about his past mayor games VE responds that he has been mayor once and he died night 1. By no means are they solid credentials in any terms. His contributions were just useless "won't vote for kush" posts. He then drops his mayor vote onto VE after hearing about his 1 game experience and leaves the thread. _____________________________________________________________________________________ I'm actually leaning a bit more suspiciously towards rayn right now; however I thought it was interesting to see these 2 posts just as I refreshed. + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:05 Risen wrote:
I'll vote anyone who makes their platform lynching rayn. You get modkilled for not voting. :p
What's wrongwith Oats this game? He's like a bit more dick than usually. On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Oats baby. Read my case again I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game. He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game.
Oats, shy are you so prickly this game.
Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E Obviously no associative tells between unflipped players yada yada but I find it "psychologically intriguing" when people bring up similarities like that. Obviously if you are scum, the posts that stick out to you the most are your scum partners and so you can subconsciously repeat them etc. However, this is a lackluster point to say the least just something I'd thought I'd note.
On November 15 2013 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No lonemeow is town. final answer.
Risen has overly paranoid reads as both alignments, there is no way of telling his alignment from those posts.
supersoft you can't say what you said before. You can't possibly know if BC and Mig are town and you should not be electing scum. Therefore your post was useless (assuming you are town) or buddying up to other vets (if you aare scum).
Hey look, it's what I said that you have now used.
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You've called me scummy all game but have yet to provide any evidence to anyone might I add.
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On November 16 2013 00:39 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 00:38 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 20:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 15 2013 20:42 supersoft wrote:
pfff always the same with you guys... this is a game. Play your role. Play to win. This isn't a forum to friendly chat with each other. this is mafia, you want to create an uncomfortable situation for scum. Friendly chatting with each other is a situation which is optimal for scum.
Scum has to be afraid to post, because everything will be looked very closely.
If you think it's okay to post things that are completely against your wincondition, you're wrong here and you're playing bad. You realize that there's a bit of a gap between being overly friendly and antagonizing every single person you see at any given opportunity right? Posts like On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else. Are never going to help town because it's going to get a bunch of townies mad. People that are mad tend to not enjoy playing the game. People that don't enjoy the game either spam the thread to show their anger, making it unreadable, or cut down on their posting drastically. This isn't a game of extremes, and this isn't the first time people have told you this as you're well aware of given you started with "always the same with you guys". Perhaps some inner reflection is in order? People play games because they enjoy them. That's the entire point of the game. It's in fact possible to analyze people without being a dick. You just haven't tried yet. If you're willing to do that, then I'm happy to give my full collaboration. Unless you're scum of course, in which case you shall die a horrible fiery death. This is also good. Avoid insults and read the thread and find mafia. Easier said than done but it can be done. And who provoked a good post like that? Man I am on fire this game.
Slammin' CHUPAZI.
I don't 100% hate your play but it's like a swing. I either love it or facepalm.
Try to minimize the facepalm but then I just said SLAMMIN CHUPAZI in this same post (twice, in fact) so I know it's said with a weak voice.
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