Yeah I apparently killed myself...suppose it turned out ok though.

Also yeah koshi I probably shouldn't say this cause I'm sure it'll backfire somehow somegame, but I've learned that you REALLY need to be dealt with as town by a scumteam.

GG.

Crossfire99

United States1529 Posts

November 09 2013 23:52 GMT

#4806

On November 10 2013 08:32 syllogism wrote:
Too many powerful blues for such a small game, especially since the decent mafia powers relied on town cooperation. Mafia should have had a power that allows them to mess with the public ## mechanics. Also that ninja power probably should have been an unblockable shot.

Alternatively the mafia ## power ups should have been cumulative. That is to say, all the ##s their team received would have been added up and then they could purchase night actions based on the cumulative total.

Eh, maybe a little too strong. I felt that the blues were more balanced by the fact that they were outed immediately and could be roleblocked with 100% certainty, scum pretty much knew all their powers because I told them in Bieber's role pm, they also could screw it up with rayn's in thread actions like cloister or what not. Maybe I should have made rayn's abilities pm abilities, but I didn't just want to make scum have all secret actions because then it's kinda *obvious* who scum are. I also felt the blues were balanced by the fact that you couldn't use your abilities on whoever you wanted to, there were restrictions which scum didn't have.

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

November 10 2013 00:15 GMT

#4807

btw this game ended after day 5, marv.

On November 06 2013 20:25 Koshi wrote:

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ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. Noted down. In return I will give you town MVP if we finish before D5 ends.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

November 10 2013 00:38 GMT

#4808

Did marv promise to eat a hat or something if Oats was town?

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

November 10 2013 01:11 GMT

#4809

I think he only gave 100% marv guarantee

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

November 10 2013 01:20 GMT

#4810

You should only trust marv's reads and judgement on the number of pages his filter has.

So this game you'd trust him 57%.

I'm disappointed in you marv, I expected 97 pages of filter at the very least.

Crossfire99

United States1529 Posts

November 10 2013 01:22 GMT

#4811

Is that the biggest filter ever? I can't think of any other game with a bigger filter.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

November 10 2013 01:29 GMT

#4812

tbf we didn't lynch oats even though i could have pushed it through ^^

Crossfire99

United States1529 Posts

November 10 2013 02:30 GMT

#4813

On November 10 2013 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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It does not even matter if the blues are powerful or not.
As long as noone has a way to silently screw with the town nocando.
I assumed on N1 "if Koshi has doc from 4 updates this game is lost, so ##yolo hit marv, only chance"

I sorta understand where you are coming from, but like I said earlier I didn't want scum to only have out of thread powers and be able to game the setup so *obviously* like that. I figured that having a silent roleblocker, godfather, and vote modifier wasn't too shabby. Additionally, whatever VA decided to use if he got charged up was silent and no one knew what it was. The only truly non-silent ability was yours and I went back and forth on it. Originally it was silent, and Seuss/Onegu's was in thread (except for the rb), but I wasn't sure about that and switched it. I figured it would be easier for your ability to be used less *obviously* scummy than Seuss's. One of the things I intended for you to be able to do was to increase the vote power of Weiner and decrease the cost of Bieber's abilities. You could play this off many ways, plus no one knew what cloister did. I figured this was easier to do than the voting stuff.

Also night 1 you could have easily determined that Koshi had a jail. Seuss actually went through and tried to figure it out but missed jail costing 4. + Show Spoiler +

If we work under the assumption that Koshi, marv, and Prom are essentially identical to VA, the most any of them can do is track/ninja. Rayn's power increases marv's costs so he can't medic himself. Whatever Koshi was planning to do he's been put off it.

The concerning one here is actually Oats. He got 7 Refudiates. However, his power is apparently permanent, so it's reasonable to assume it's not like the others.

With that info, maybe you shoot someone else and the game is different? I don't know.

Thanks for your thoughts, though! Just a general question for you. Can scum ever have non-silent abilities to use? Or is the fact that they're scum mean that almost all of their abilities must be silent?

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

November 10 2013 02:35 GMT

#4814

Yeah, it is kinda funny that VA had all our skills.

btw, the Endgame post is a bit fucked up with VA being in the spoilers and stuff.

Crossfire99

United States1529 Posts

November 10 2013 02:38 GMT

#4815

On November 10 2013 11:35 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, it is kinda funny that VA had all our skills.

btw, the Endgame post is a bit fucked up with VA being in the spoilers and stuff.

Yeah, I guess I'll fix that. I intended to do that because I was writing the post to trick people into thinking that s&b was the last scum because they saw that it was an endgame post, but VA had go and concede nicely in thread and ruin my surprise

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

November 10 2013 03:05 GMT

#4816

Wait, VA couldn't concede BEFORE S&B got lynched?
lol what a dick

Crossfire99

United States1529 Posts

November 10 2013 03:14 GMT

#4817

He did, but I only confirmed it from him like a few minutes before the deadline and I was kinda already writing the lynch post and wanted to trick people into thinking s&b was the last scum for suspense and whatnot, so that's why I did that. If s&b wants me to, I can undo that and make it so that VA concedes before the lynch.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

November 10 2013 03:29 GMT

#4818

Nah S&B should just be happy he won a game.