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On September 13 2013 14:29 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 14:26 WaveofShadow wrote: Alright you're clearly not following me here. I'm asking you to show me the posts in your filter where you rescind your scumread on blubbdavid and the explanation behind it I apparently should have already found in your filter. I already told you at the start of our conversation that I never actually wrote it out. You bolded what you wanted me to show you and that's what I showed you.... or maybe I bolded that originally and I'm just an idiot.
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Ok I think I get you here. The point remains, why did you not post your reasons for moving off of Blub before? And the fact remains that until you JUST explained yourself somewhat, I didn't see any other reason for you removing your scumread.
Now can you answer my other question regarding a comparison between what you originally found scummy about Blub's play and mine?
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I disagree with you doing the same thing though, your post seemed to me that you were actually analyzing the thread and I saw some merit to your argument that the post you pointed out seems like a post more likely made by mafia to manipulate town.
Also you are here, discussing with me and trying to improve your read, which is worth something.
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On September 13 2013 14:31 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok I think I get you here. The point remains, why did you not post your reasons for moving off of Blub before? And the fact remains that until you JUST explained yourself somewhat, I didn't see any other reason for you removing your scumread.
Now can you answer my other question regarding a comparison between what you originally found scummy about Blub's play and mine? I truly didn't feel a need to, he wasn't going to get lynched. If the OP wagon didn't pick up steam and blubbers was in danger of getting lynched I would explain why he is not the best lynch.
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God damn it Grack. ##Unvote Just not enough for me to go on any longer. Too much town since that instant scumread I got from you at the start of the game and I was trying to pull some Ver-esque shit. Doesn't make any sense to not update reads though, and your thought processes and fast-paced discussion with you right now seems pretty damn genuine.
I'm fucking exhausted and going to bed. I'll be around for a bunch of the day tomorrow before deadline.
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Hi everyone; first of all I'm glad that people have started to consolidate their posts and begin to respectfully debate.
Raynpelikoneet, I am interested in how you came to the conclusion that SnB is scum, and while I'm sure you can make an argument through looking at his posts and responding in analysis, I don't think that the end result actually lends himself to him being scum; at least not the way that you say.
You say he fucked off, yet he could easily be AFK or simply have ignored you. Which is fine, especially if he's trying to be playing like the greats, in where you ignore people all the time because they're making flawed and ultimately inconsequential points. Basically, not worthy of your accusation.
You also say he didn't contribute shit, yet I think in the posts he has made he has made more thoughtful points than even you perhaps, quote;
On September 13 2013 03:18 strongandbig wrote:
Here's the thing with Ryan. He argues and gets in people's faces and posts a million times as either alignment. The biggest difference is when he's scum he argues about things that don't matter and don't move the town forward, but when he's town he actually pushes on points that are important. Just compare his scum filter from game of thrones and compare that to his town filter from aperture 2, the difference is obvious.
My first reaction is "this is scum Ryan". He's arguing a lot about old partners questions from early in the game but he's finding quibbles and there's no way what koshi thinks of those questions is remotely worth the amount of text Ryan puts in. Ditto for the arguing about whether grack could really have changed his mind for the reasons he said.
I'm not sure about rayne though. For me it's always hard to figure him out for sure because of how constantly interactive he is even as scum.
He took a stance on my analysis of him and said it was bad, despite the fact I proffered that it meant it struck me as town. So even trying to challenge that is a small advance for him.
He also said this:
Anyway I have a problem set due tmo so I'm probably not gonna be voting until tomorrow morning. Maybe that's why he's ignoring you/ seems hit and run?
To me there are some slight questionable things, but really there are questionable things in almost every post anyone makes, if you look hard enough. I think your reasons are flawed and he should be given more time.
Original Panther
I also think Original Panther is more suspicious than before, due to the fact he's so bent on lynching kush. I might be more interested, however, if I didn't already objectively think lynching Kush is the right move. OP is suspicious in me in that he's not actually advocating anyone to be lynched, which is questionable to me given all his analysis that he did; he actually offers no strong opinions. I also slightly agree that he might be trying to simply appear like a contributing town while in reality he doesn't push for anything or make use of his analysis; however I think it would be more beneficial to pressure him now, and make him give opinions. Finally, there is suspicious and then there is worthy to be lynched day one.
Actually it's interesting why the SnB lynch took off. I also want to draw attention to Koshi for pretty suspicious behavior. + Show Spoiler +Immediately after SnB's last two posts, Koshi posted this. On September 13 2013 03:26 Koshi wrote: SnB dropping some knowledge. /signed for truth On September 13 2013 06:58 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: what's good in what SnB said about me? There is truth in what he says. But the problem is it might not really apply to this game. He says a lot of things that sounds smart/correct but meh. On September 13 2013 06:49 Koshi wrote: I want to lynch Pandain, Goodkarma or SnB. On September 13 2013 07:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 03:18 strongandbig wrote:
Here's the thing with Ryan. He argues and gets in people's faces and posts a million times as either alignment. The biggest difference is when he's scum he argues about things that don't matter and don't move the town forward, but when he's town he actually pushes on points that are important. Just compare his scum filter from game of thrones and compare that to his town filter from aperture 2, the difference is obvious.
My first reaction is "this is scum Ryan". He's arguing a lot about old partners questions from early in the game but he's finding quibbles and there's no way what koshi thinks of those questions is remotely worth the amount of text Ryan puts in. Ditto for the arguing about whether grack could really have changed his mind for the reasons he said.
I'm not sure about rayne though. For me it's always hard to figure him out for sure because of how constantly interactive he is even as scum.
You say that this is incorrect? If I read this I nod my head and think "yeah this is true". But in the end he doesn't commit to shit. I also have a problem that he uses the example about you grilling me about OP for 2 hours, which was pretty tedious indeed, but then twists this conversation between us to make everything else he says about you true or at least have more value. tldr: I feel like SnB is being sneaky.
Pretty interesting, shows to me he's not actually trying to investigate and instead he just makes opinions. Also don't understand how he objectively changed, I don't think it's sneaky at all, and I think this is bad contrived reasoning.
I will later post on why kushm4sta should be lynched.
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In essence: Reasoning on SnB is weak due to fact he posted that he was going to be gone. Also is weak in that at that point he had contributed more than others.
OP is suspicious but I think seeing how he does during the weekend is more beneficial than lynching him. He won't have an excuse to not post, and we can analyze him further than.
Koshi is suspicious for, to me, contrived reasoning, lack of consistency(without explaining why sudden change), lack of actual advocating, and actual, looking at his filter, lack of interest in town.
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Actually I will admit however that his mafia game in GoT shows him far more active and interested, while his town game in aperture is similar to now.
So just a general thing to note about his contradiction.
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I will also note this:
On August 13 2011 02:47 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 02:43 Caphe wrote:Now this is really weird. Minute ago, I cant get the stream working on 500KB. Give up, turn on uTorrent to download some porns. Few minutes later try my luck again and now the stream is working perfectly on 2.2mb O_O. Guess even stream would like some porns too Interesting story, where do you download this porn? I think that my "stream" also needs some. :°)
Interesting questions arise. What did he do with the porn? Where is this stream? Is this in violation of twitch.tv policies, justin.tv at the time?
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Talk about porn on your own time, you horny bastards. This game is about mafia, and mafia only. You can talk about Golden Sun though, that's allowed! :D
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actually pandain i think you are right. the key to unlocking koshis alignment is the porn. must do reserach on this matter
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on pg 10 of reread. so far i really want to lynch goodkarma for his useless nitpicking posts. I could also lynch Wos.
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Clarification because Pandain claims to not be a horny bastard. You can talk about porn as it relates to Koshi's activity level, but if you guys start talking about your favorite pornstars and/or camgirls... I'll have to tie you to the bedpost. Kinky, eh?
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I like where this is going
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CLOSE READ UPDATE #2 lawlz papa smurf is debears. just realized that. PAPA SMURF IS DEBEARS FOR ALL MY NON READING TOWN BROS
I no longer want to lynch WoS now. just GK and and zealos would be fine i guess.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
Umasi replaces goodkarma! effective immediately!
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hihi guys gonna go read thread idk when I'll get thoughts out, may or may not be super active idk yet. kush, why are you lynching goodkarma( now known as me) or are you lynching grack? (since you abbreviated as goodkarma/grack go read obs thread)
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On September 12 2013 07:15 Koshi wrote: Policy.
We lynch scum and only scum
wham bam slam koshis town for this line (just gonna be spewing my thoughts forth into the world, take it with a degree of skepticalness. idk if I'll be around at lynch time tomorrow, so I'll just vote at the end of the night and probably rethink it once I wake up before class)
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On September 12 2013 07:26 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 07:23 Koshi wrote:On September 12 2013 07:21 strongandbig wrote:On September 12 2013 07:20 Koshi wrote:On September 12 2013 07:18 strongandbig wrote: yes.
koshi how Search and destroy. I ll catch them. np. ok but how will you make sure the rest of town doesnt lynch not scum How do you know I am town? ##vote StrongandBig STARSENSES
?? can someone explain starsenses for me tyty
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grack is kinda unsettling.
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