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kushm4sta
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Pandain
United States12979 Posts
Alot of what I was going to say was already said by WoS Old Panther, however I have some comments to them. VA seems town due to the fact he's actively moving the thread forward for a long time. GK seems town(recognizing the one argument was silly and a distraction) I agree with OP's catch on SnB reading up on Papasmurf coaching meaning that snb is probably town. Means he's already investigating outside and looking into matters, which maybe I'm wrong but I don't think is a mafia move. Papa_Smurf, you asked others to not spam, but spam isn't just useless content, it's a bunch of small thoughts spread out across many posts. Consolidate your thoughts please for the sake of the thread. Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got. Honestly not sure about OP's alignment. People who make posts like that are usually from my experience really really really good, and that means they can do anything. Main thing to keep out for is what OP actually does in the game, not what he just says. I am getting a bad read on Grackaroni due to the fact he's being very moderate in his opinions, always saying "in my opinion, I feel", trying to defend himself rather than offer actual opinions, or he's just spamming. Not sure if Scum though. Also to put it bluntly I'm going to lynch kushm4sta unless he stops posting like shit. Also he's being pretty crude(like crude troll), and I really don't appreciate it. He'll be useless to the thread basically, and with more posts I see while writing this he has ignored OP's plea to stop spamming, showing he won't listen. I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
/martyr | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
How disappointing. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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Pandain
United States12979 Posts
Zealos's post doesn't mean anything I think; I think he was referring to his name in the mythical realm known as real life. Wouldn't make sense otherwise. Also kush I'll probably change from you, I was once the huge spammer too. I'll just ask you to step it up. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
On September 12 2013 13:24 Pandain wrote: I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to fully make my thoughts fully comprehensible and eloquent, instead I will just get them written down. College struggles. Alot of what I was going to say was already said by WoS Old Panther, however I have some comments to them. VA seems town due to the fact he's actively moving the thread forward for a long time. GK seems town(recognizing the one argument was silly and a distraction) I agree with OP's catch on SnB reading up on Papasmurf coaching meaning that snb is probably town. Means he's already investigating outside and looking into matters, which maybe I'm wrong but I don't think is a mafia move. Papa_Smurf, you asked others to not spam, but spam isn't just useless content, it's a bunch of small thoughts spread out across many posts. Consolidate your thoughts please for the sake of the thread. Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got. Honestly not sure about OP's alignment. People who make posts like that are usually from my experience really really really good, and that means they can do anything. Main thing to keep out for is what OP actually does in the game, not what he just says. I am getting a bad read on Grackaroni due to the fact he's being very moderate in his opinions, always saying "in my opinion, I feel", trying to defend himself rather than offer actual opinions, or he's just spamming. Not sure if Scum though. Also to put it bluntly I'm going to lynch kushm4sta unless he stops posting like shit. Also he's being pretty crude(like crude troll), and I really don't appreciate it. He'll be useless to the thread basically, and with more posts I see while writing this he has ignored OP's plea to stop spamming, showing he won't listen. I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos. -Pandain came into the thread with a long constructed post but he didn't analyze shit. -He gave out some town reads that agreed with town sentiment. -His reasoning for S&B being town is absolute bull. (S&B saw Debears post in a newbie game currently in signups, HOW DOES THAT EQUATE TO S&B GOING OUTSIDE THE GAME AND LOOKING FOR MAFIA??) -He writes to a whole lot of nothing about OP (why did you even include that if you've made no conclusion off of it? -And to top it off he then says that me and kush are BAD players so we are the top lynch choices -Now when I called him out on him being more interested in lynching people for being bad than scum he says that we should focus on lurkers. I don't believe that Pandain has any interest in hunting scum. ##Vote: Pandain | ||
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Papa_Smurf
336 Posts
Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance. And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
On September 12 2013 14:47 Papa_Smurf wrote: I disagree with the SnB being town read just because he saw my smurf signed up as coach. If you call him town, call him town by his in game play Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance. And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge Do you think that Pandain is scum? | ||
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Papa_Smurf
336 Posts
No. You didnt read his post to see what he actually said (you misinterpreted it) | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
On September 12 2013 15:14 Papa_Smurf wrote: No. You didnt read his post to see what he actually said (you misinterpreted it) What did I misinterpret? You have a reason to believe he is town? | ||
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Papa_Smurf
336 Posts
When he said "bad read" about you it meant "scum read" pretty obviously by how he described your posting. Then kush is playing scummy in itself (although that's normal for him as town and scum). "Posting like shit" doesn't mean bad (unless he has a town read on kush). It means he's playing anti-town At least that's what I discerned. | ||
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Papa_Smurf
336 Posts
On September 12 2013 13:24 Pandain wrote: I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to fully make my thoughts fully comprehensible and eloquent, instead I will just get them written down. College struggles. Alot of what I was going to say was already said by WoS Old Panther, however I have some comments to them. VA seems town due to the fact he's actively moving the thread forward for a long time. GK seems town(recognizing the one argument was silly and a distraction) I agree with OP's catch on SnB reading up on Papasmurf coaching meaning that snb is probably town. Means he's already investigating outside and looking into matters, which maybe I'm wrong but I don't think is a mafia move. Papa_Smurf, you asked others to not spam, but spam isn't just useless content, it's a bunch of small thoughts spread out across many posts. Consolidate your thoughts please for the sake of the thread. Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got. Honestly not sure about OP's alignment. People who make posts like that are usually from my experience really really really good, and that means they can do anything. Main thing to keep out for is what OP actually does in the game, not what he just says. I am getting a bad read on Grackaroni due to the fact he's being very moderate in his opinions, always saying "in my opinion, I feel", trying to defend himself rather than offer actual opinions, or he's just spamming. Not sure if Scum though. Also to put it bluntly I'm going to lynch kushm4sta unless he stops posting like shit. Also he's being pretty crude(like crude troll), and I really don't appreciate it. He'll be useless to the thread basically, and with more posts I see while writing this he has ignored OP's plea to stop spamming, showing he won't listen. I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos. The two bolded parts don't seem to come from a town mindset. 1) (As I said in an earlier post), SnB's finding me signing up as a coach for newbies isn't "research". He probably saw the post in the forum with my name as the latest post and looked at it for a second. It's something that either alignment would do, seeing as knowing who the smurf is can help mafia consider nks more easily. 2) The wording you use on kush seems to infer you think he is town "posting like shit" - that is not the same as "posting like scum". Posting like shit would infer that you think he is town and he should post better "he'll be useless to the thread basically" - you say uselessness as though he is town. "he has ignored OP's (my plea actually) plea to stop spamming" - kush hasn't really been spamming. And you act as though he wouldn't ignore OP's plea anyways. If you thought he was town, that would be a reasonable assumption that he should listen to non spam pleas. But, if he's mafia, he doesn't have motive to listen to such pleas other than to avoid being lynched. I find it odd that none of your words come close to calling kush scum, yet you would lynch him purely for posting like shit, uselessness, and ignoring a plea to not spam. Not scumminess. 3) you have a major contradiction here in these two parts of your post Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got. I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos. You say zealos seems town, then say he should be considered highly suspicious. I wouldn't think town would get that mixed up in their reads in one post | ||
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Papa_Smurf
336 Posts
On September 12 2013 15:44 Grackaroni wrote: What did I misinterpret? You have a reason to believe he is town? Eh a closer look at that post has some out of place things | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
On September 12 2013 15:50 Papa_Smurf wrote: He didn't call you and kush out as lynch targets for being bad (which was the primary point of your scumread on him). When he said "bad read" about you it meant "scum read" pretty obviously by how he described your posting. Then kush is playing scummy in itself (although that's normal for him as town and scum). "Posting like shit" doesn't mean bad (unless he has a town read on kush). It means he's playing anti-town At least that's what I discerned. I thought that at first glance, but I have a hard time believing that when he ends his read on me with, I'm not sure if he's scum. What I read out of that post is that he is most interested in policy lynching the weaker players. Lets get real, Kush playing anti-town is nothing new from him. He does it as both alignments. If he doesn't start contributing, we vig him and we move on. Lynches should be used on players we can actually analyze. I've only been scum one time and I was called out immediately by syllogism for wanting to policy lynch someone I called a weaker player. I see pandain displaying similar behavior. Aside from that i think that scum generally come in the middle of the day with long constructed posts such as these, this one in particular gave very little analysis. After that he peaced out. WoS made a post like this as well but it was clear to me that he was actually trying to analyze my behavior. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
On September 12 2013 14:03 Pandain wrote: Ignore this post except for one key point I realized so we can stay on track of what matters: lurkers. Zealos's post doesn't mean anything I think; I think he was referring to his name in the mythical realm known as real life. Wouldn't make sense otherwise. Also kush I'll probably change from you, I was once the huge spammer too. I'll just ask you to step it up. I think this post was a backtrack from the original post because he knew that he was saying he wanted to lynch Kush regardless of his alignment and that the previous post pointed towards him being scum | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
SnB can be town obviously. But meh. Could lynch. Pandain pretty bad entry. OP pretty cool guy. Not going to lynch. | ||
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