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##Nuke: Raynepelikoneet
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Am I doing this right?
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
##Nuke: Koshi ##Nuke: Raynepelikoneet ##Nuke: Chromatically ##Nuke: Acrofales Am I doing this right? | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
Yeah, whatever. Mocsta should get a strong ban. "Getting modkilled so town doesn't mislynch" is exactly defined as cheating in the OP. it doesn't matter that he claims to not have known about it, it's in the op of literally every game and is a core part of the rules. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:23 Grackaroni wrote: I didn't make it into the endgame post. I guess I'm still alive? ##Nuke: Koshi ##Nuke: Raynepelikoneet ##Nuke: Chromatically ##Nuke: Acrofales Am I doing this right? GG Grackaroni saved us! | ||
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iamperfection
United States9635 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:23 Grackaroni wrote: I didn't make it into the endgame post. I guess I'm still alive? ##Nuke: Koshi ##Nuke: Raynepelikoneet ##Nuke: Chromatically ##Nuke: Acrofales Am I doing this right? ah the old quad nuke role. one can dream..........maybe one day | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On August 20 2013 22:42 Xatalos wrote: It's truly sad when the scumteam is more active and pro-town than 50+% of the town :/ Such is life I guess... But should we have left all the nullish lurkers just live peacefully then? Lord KP on them seemed like a good idea. And still seems, to some extent. In terms of the overall state of Mafia on this forum, (in theory) killing lurkers is negative reinforcement for that behaviour, which (again in theory) will improve activity in other games in the future. So in that sense using KP on lurkers/thread-shitting players is a good idea. In terms of winning this game individually was it a good idea?... I have no idea, didn't read the game. If you get left with mostly/only lurkers lategame you will not have a good time though. Some games are just doomed by the allocation of players. (No idea if that was the case here, once again I haven't actually read it.) I think the forum could maybe do with more routine, standard normal minis to reinforce the principles of decent active play. Crazy themes may be fun (no experience with such so I couldn't say) but I don't know that they do much for the standard of play. This is all IMHO and of course YMMV. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:24 strongandbig wrote: Once again, I lead the votes but don't get lynched! SUCCESS! Yeah, whatever. Mocsta should get a strong ban. "Getting modkilled so town doesn't mislynch" is exactly defined as cheating in the OP. it doesn't matter that he claims to not have known about it, it's in the op of literally every game and is a core part of the rules. I would have to agree with this. If someone was modkilled for inactivity they couldn't argue that they didn't know they had to vote because they didn't read the OP. The OP says it's cheating he should get a ban. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:24 iamperfection wrote: ah the old quad nuke role. one can dream..........maybe one day Who says there is no nukes in Game of Thrones!! You just wait and watch my flip. . . I am Tyrion Lannister The Quadra Nuker. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Like, sharrant and solstice felt like lurkers this game, but were they? I dunno. Kush felt like a lurker too... Like, I feel like I use the term lurker for "not really active anti-town" I believe there are players who can have 1-2 pages of filter a day and be extremely pro-town, and I wouldn't consider those lurkers. But anyway, it's annoying. I guess people get different things out of mafia than me when they sign up. I kinda wanna suggest that some hosts not allow people who have the tendency to lurk but that just seems a bit elitist and arbitrary. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:38 Clarity_nl wrote: I kinda wanna suggest that some hosts not allow people who have the tendency to lurk but that just seems a bit elitist and arbitrary. If I ever hosted a mini, I would do this. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:39 marvellosity wrote: If I ever hosted a mini, I would do this. How would you define a lurker in that case marv? edit: you should totally host a mini | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:38 Clarity_nl wrote: I think defining a lurker is hard. Like, sharrant and solstice felt like lurkers this game, but were they? I dunno. Kush felt like a lurker too... Like, I feel like I use the term lurker for "not really active anti-town" I believe there are players who can have 1-2 pages of filter a day and be extremely pro-town, and I wouldn't consider those lurkers. But anyway, it's annoying. I guess people get different things out of mafia than me when they sign up. I kinda wanna suggest that some hosts not allow people who have the tendency to lurk but that just seems a bit elitist and arbitrary. Those are very good points. In reference to the last one, if I hosted a game and only let people in who I had a great deal of confidence in to play a decent game it probably wouldn't fill for a very long time, if ever. EDIT: That being said it has been done before (Smurf Mini Mafia, and probably others further back too) | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:40 Clarity_nl wrote: How would you define a lurker in that case marv? Incredibly arbitrarily based on my own opinions. I'm aware it might cause some offence, but meh. The thing I like / have the most respect for in mafia is simply people who try their best to win. Lurking/fucking around is not doing that. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
A 13 player or 15 player games like that would be cool though. Could always host a game and say "just /in even if you're in a game or waiting for one to start, we'll figure out a date to start when full, preferably when none of the players are in an ongoing game" | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
With the state of the forum right now though...something that makes signups slower is gonna be excruciating in its own right. Clarity..I told you in a PM and ill tell you again. Lots of eurozone folks in this game made it really difficult to be involved in thread discussion. The thread was most active during business hours over here. I felt like a lurker to you because we rarely were posting at the same time. When I got back and had time to play there usually wasn't anyone around that really would have helped to talk to. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On August 21 2013 00:03 s0Lstice wrote: Gmarshal had a wisdom of the crowds rule in his games where people could vote out someone who signed up. That's a good idea. With the state of the forum right now though...something that makes signups slower is gonna be excruciating in its own right. Clarity..I told you in a PM and ill tell you again. Lots of eurozone folks in this game made it really difficult to be involved in thread discussion. The thread was most active during business hours over here. I felt like a lurker to you because we rarely were posting at the same time. When I got back and had time to play there usually wasn't anyone around that really would have helped to talk to. Are you saying that NA is worse than EU in Mafia as well as in RTS or what?  ![[image loading]](http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/images/2013/february/wcs-na-roundof16.png) | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 21 2013 00:03 s0Lstice wrote: Gmarshal had a wisdom of the crowds rule in his games where people could vote out someone who signed up. That's a good idea. With the state of the forum right now though...something that makes signups slower is gonna be excruciating in its own right. Clarity..I told you in a PM and ill tell you again. Lots of eurozone folks in this game made it really difficult to be involved in thread discussion. The thread was most active during business hours over here. I felt like a lurker to you because we rarely were posting at the same time. When I got back and had time to play there usually wasn't anyone around that really would have helped to talk to. I realize that, but some piece of analysis that you put in thread won't be ignored because it was posted when we weren't around. You were basically a vet with your 11 hp, seems like a waste to only post when others are around and therefore not post much at all. I'm not saying have a conversation with yourself and post 6x in a row, but a concise post with your thoughts of people and the goings on would have made things a bit better for town. For Sharrant it's the same story, he's basically a nearly confirmed town but he doesn't abuse it in thread. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:54 Clarity_nl wrote: I kinda like minis. 2 scum 7 town is cool. That said, in most cases scum get completely rolled by an active town in games like that unless there are some very experienced scum players. A 13 player or 15 player games like that would be cool though. Could always host a game and say "just /in even if you're in a game or waiting for one to start, we'll figure out a date to start when full, preferably when none of the players are in an ongoing game" Eh, I wouldn't be that picky, 90%+ of people are fine. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On August 21 2013 00:13 Xatalos wrote: Are you saying that NA is worse than EU in Mafia as well as in RTS or what? LOL. Nope, just that this game was harder to be tapped into than a typical game around here due to most of the thread development happening when I couldn't post. On August 21 2013 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote: I realize that, but some piece of analysis that you put in thread won't be ignored because it was posted when we weren't around. You were basically a vet with your 11 hp, seems like a waste to only post when others are around and therefore not post much at all. I'm not saying have a conversation with yourself and post 6x in a row, but a concise post with your thoughts of people and the goings on would have made things a bit better for town. For Sharrant it's the same story, he's basically a nearly confirmed town but he doesn't abuse it in thread. This is a nice sentiment, but not true. Your problem with me wasn't that my viewpoint on things wasn't unclear, just that I wasn't around enough from your point of view. What difference would it really have made for me to make a summation post every time I got to the thread and found it slow? Ideas and reads are great, but being right means nothing if you can't push them all the way home. You need to be in the thread with the other active people to align your thinking. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
But you're right, part of it is me being a bit irrational because it FEELS like you weren't around at all during this game. | ||
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