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On July 28 2013 14:22 Mocsta wrote:
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Don't forget rayn is confirmed town with a flipped scum pardoner.
Vayne.
With an SK about, is your focus this cycle to hunt SK or hunt remaining scum?
Remaining scum. There's 2 left only 1 SK. Besides it seems the SK is helping us out so why bother him?
Also yes, if rayn claims the sloosh pardon then we can confirm him as town given the role PM of korynne. But then I will want to know why he lied to us about that if he did indeed pardon him.
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Wow. Nice pick up on korynne role pm. I just assumed it was applicable to everything.
Hmmm rayn does need to address this.
Mz is essentially confirmed scum with the parity checks. I would prefer we hunt remaining scum though.
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some retarded theory I had is that rayn is a serial killer pardoner but that seems a bit farfetched. its a Ver game though so who the fuck knows. The flips this game so far have been fucking hilarious.
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On July 28 2013 14:40 Mocsta wrote:
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Wow. Nice pick up on korynne role pm. I just assumed it was applicable to everything.
Hmmm rayn does need to address this.
Mz is essentially confirmed scum with the parity checks. I would prefer we hunt remaining scum though.
please explain how I'm confirmed scum lol
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On July 28 2013 15:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 14:40 Mocsta wrote:
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Wow. Nice pick up on korynne role pm. I just assumed it was applicable to everything.
Hmmm rayn does need to address this.
Mz is essentially confirmed scum with the parity checks. I would prefer we hunt remaining scum though.
please explain how I'm confirmed scum lol
ooo can i?
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On July 28 2013 15:32 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 15:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 28 2013 14:40 Mocsta wrote:
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Wow. Nice pick up on korynne role pm. I just assumed it was applicable to everything.
Hmmm rayn does need to address this.
Mz is essentially confirmed scum with the parity checks. I would prefer we hunt remaining scum though.
please explain how I'm confirmed scum lol ooo can i?
actually anybody is welcome to
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ft is same alignment as marv
ft is town
you are opposite alignment as marv
you are not town
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On July 28 2013 16:19 kushm4sta wrote:
ft is same alignment as marv
ft is town
you are opposite alignment as marv
you are not town
This logic is flawless, I submit to death.
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Mz.
Suppose that u want us to forgo the parity check outcome based on
A. Ur word
B. The possibility of a framer successfully targeting two cycles in a row, and with no evidence a framer exists.
Then why use your 25 posts to proclaim innocence. Would it not be best to openly scum hunt? Who are your leads for SK and remaining 2 scum.
What is your take on the rayn situation?
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I'll let my death demonstrate my innocence and marv's guilt. Marv is the SK, you'll kill him when I flip town. Then you'll lynch wiggles because he's scum. Idk who the last scum is but they shouldn't be hard to find.
I'm pissed at rayn for not admitting he pardoned sloosh. I guess he's confirmed town though since he couldn't have done it as scum.
I owe the people who said there was an sk an apology, I really didn't think there'd be one my bad.
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(5/25)On July 25 2013 23:59 strongandbig wrote:@koshi what makes you so sure I'm scum that you're willing to ignore the mz/Marv dt check to lynch me? + Show Spoiler + Like, seriously no one has made a case on me this entire game except vivax, and that was vivax tunneling into his snap read on me based on my first post (and spoiler alert vivax tunneling is something that happens all the time, and has happened to me before).
I shot ace for a couple of reasons that no one has argued with yet - one is protown (he was playing like scum and I thought he was scum, but he's impossible to lynch) and, true, one is alignment neutral (I like shooting ace) but no one has said yet why that makes me scum.
Ima do a little analysis now. In the sloosh/Marv convo, sloosh claimed that they knew Marv was SK from a cop check. This gives us four possibilities:
1. scum actually do have a role cop check on Marv as SK, as they appear to imply in the sloosh/Marv convo. Best move for town is to lunch Marv and reduce anti town KP. Regardless of whether the 2kp/night so far has been due to scum only having one KP as someone suggested or if we've been lucky with KP overlap/protective roles, best move if we have the SK is to get rid of him. 2. scum knew about the mz/Marv "different" result that was floating around pm land, and that neither of them is scum. In this scenario, presumably either sloosh contacted both Marv and mz, or they read Marv as SK. In this case whether we lynch Marv or mz depends on who we think is more likely to be the SK. If the "different" result was due to a framer, I doubt that scum would have initiated the conversation with Marv, I don't see any benefit to doing that instead of just letting town kill both of them. + Show Spoiler +
3. Marv is scum and the convo was faked. This could have been a response to knowing about the parity check, although I don't see why that would be a better response than just trying to lynch mz, either way the check leads to Marv getting lynched and the "when" just depends on getting people to lynch mz first. I feel like getting us to lynch mz first would be easy if Marv actually started giving a shit, and given how egotistical he can get about his scum play I doubt that would have been an issue. I don't think that is the case. Still, this is a possible scenario where we should obviously lynch Marv.
4. Marv is town, mz is scum, and the convo was initiated in response to scum finding out about the parity check. This is the scenario where we should obviously lynch mz. Still, this is a very high-risk strategy from scum, since it relies on Marv posting the conversation and not having it make him "confirmed" or gain massive town cred. It's also possible but I think this scenario is also unlikely
So I think we should lynch Marv for a couple reasons. (1) his play this game doesn't match either his scum or town play. Unless he's been way more active and involved in pms than he has here, it doesn't match his town play (which sometimes looks scummy but always looks leadery) or his scum play (which is quite active as well, and very ego-driven). Therefore, I think he is neither. (2) there's a possibility the scum do have a rolecop and that's why they contacted Marv, in which case they're giving us free information and it would be a shame not to use it. + Show Spoiler +
So ##vote: marv
Also inb4 "oh he's hunting SK not scum" well what I'm actually doing is hunting for the most reasonable anti town person I can get you all to lunch instead of mislynching me and trying to work with the cop claim we have so fuck you too. At least I'm still trying despite people in this game being stupid and calling me scum for no good reason, unlike some people in this town
. just wanted to bring this post back to the fore, now we have context of more flips. Snb point2 makes a lot of sense from a Mafia win con perspective.
Also Keep in mind 3 things.
1.Yam, sloosh, snb all tried to push mz at one point or another. This is too orchestrated to be bussing in my opinion.
2. SK can choose godfather instead of bulletproof. Consider that scum have no need for a detective. Role cop on the other hand is a possibility as hinted by snb
3. Given how Marv has acted this game. SK makes a lot of sense. E.g. the discrepancy with Dr.h regarding the alignment of yamato.
From this. Marv is sk and thus mz is town.
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So for last 2 mafia... My top read is kush.
1. Known for bussing
2. Has been useless all game. Posts feel most certain when addressing flipped scum players which goes back to point 1.
3. When yam was shot. Only scum knew it was SK, whereas town did not want to entertain notion. Kush immediately is able to consider third party in his thought process whilst proceeding to bus.
On July 20 2013 02:56 kushm4sta wrote:
oats - this guy is pretty unreadable. I can see him easily being town or scum. I have definitely seen him act like this as town.
ft - town. his response to aces fake claim was really in depth and townie. go reread it of you think it makes him scummy because honestly it is one of the towniest things in the game.
marv - scum or third party. Really seems like he doesn't give a shit. defended yamato. defended sloosh. said he thought dbz lynch was retarded but did nothing to stop it. The least he should have done is change his cote to sloosh.
sloosh - scum. the dbz lynch was retarded. beyond retarded. like a negative score on the iq test retarded. he claimed and he could PROVE his role the next day. yet he was still lynched. this points to dbz lynch being the scum alternative to the sloosh wagon.
For the other. I want to hear more from rayne. The korynne role pm has made this situation a clusterfuck.
Lastly, I don't think we should lynch Marv this cycle. The existence of SK is clearly putting Mafia under massive pressure which is benefitting town majorly.
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Mocsta that last post is making me think you're my missing scum.
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Actually nvm read some parts of it wrong... I need to sleep.
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Lol mz
I wrote the Marv/mz part way before you made ya post. Just takes forever to copy paste with a tablet for filter diving 
Hmmm I like wiggles and kush.
Koshi is fixated on VA. Do u prefer kush or va?
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mocsta gday mate.
some shrimp on the barbi fer ya?
blimey!
bloomin onion mate
outback steakhouse mate.
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Mocsta is either scum or totally atrocious. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's mafia.
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Mocsta do tell what is the other explanation for yamatos death? There are 0 reasons why town vig wouldn't claim that shot.
I think you are just jelly that I've been pwning this game. I knew sloosh was scum d1. I also knew yamato was scum before he died.I also knew snb was hella scum. I'm just awesome at mafia honestly.
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Oh yeah mocsta is there a reason you haven't mentioned mz who we have a red check on?? Or do you also believe in the miraculous framer.
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Also.I think it's possible that Rayne is pardoner/sk and he pardoned sloosh
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lol dat Korynne role PM. Mafia has either another pardoner or some sort of a copycat. Or Korynne could actually pardon mafia and that only shows after her flip. I have pushed a mafia lynch every single fucking day of this game.
Now we are lynching Meapak who is either mafia or SK.
##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
Cheks don't lie.
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