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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 28 2013 13:57 GMT
#1341
@Mocsta Here are 2 previous posts of mine that you should read to understand where I am currently in the game

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On July 27 2013 04:30 Koshi wrote:
Ok, I am going to go over my theory once more. Talking with Korynne helped make this theory even more believable and I think I am going to stick to it till I get lynched/night killed.

The scumteam is approx:
SnB
VA
Wiggles
Kyronne

Their goal today is to let us lynch into Marv/MZ. There are 2 possible reasons why:
1) We lynch wrong and they kill 2 tonight and they win the game.
2) They believe there is a SK between those 2 and want town to lynch him. (Read logs between me and Korynne)

If you look at them all separately:
SnB: scum vigi. We all read his defense, he was trying to lynch marv or the SK. (teamtactic)

VA: Been an annoyance the entire game. Tried to save SnB which isn't scummy in theory, especially with all the other crap he has been posting, but this guy also has been trying to get MZ, marv lynched. Lately he is also pleased to lynch Oats/Koshi.

Wiggles: afk. Made a post right before night that something BIG was going to happen. Made a post after the night that we need to lynch into Marv/MZ (teamtactic)

Korynne: Traitor that had layabout killed. Made multiple post in this thread to lynch in to Marv/MZ (You see the pattern?...) tried to persuade me to look at rayn as the traitor, tried to persuade me to save SnB. The logs below are quite scummy on moments as well.
Here are logs between me and Korynne.
<DISCLAIMER: I am being a jack-ass somewhere in the middle>
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[20:04] <Korynne> bro
[20:04] <Korynne> why you so crazy
[20:04] <Korynne> How is it not Marv/MZ?
[20:04] <Korynne> That's insane man/
[20:04] <Korynne> Layabout flipped.
[20:05] <@Koshi> Oh hi
[20:05] <@Koshi> I just made an insane long post why you are scum
[20:05] <@Koshi> D:
[20:05] <Korynne> lol wtf broski
[20:05] <Korynne> *reads*
[20:06] <Korynne> broski
[20:06] <Korynne> Do you not get what I'm saying with SnB?
[20:06] <Korynne> I play mechanical more than behaviour.
[20:06] <Korynne> Mechanically, there's like a 90% chance of MZ/Marv being mafia/SK.
[20:06] <@Koshi> I am just trowing this shit out htere
[20:06] <@Koshi> Who knows.
[20:06] <Korynne> You still wanna talk or you good with accusing me instead?
[20:07] <@Koshi> Nope
[20:07] <@Koshi> I will talk
[20:07] <@Koshi> And post these logs as well :D
[20:07] <Korynne> whadaya wanna talk about :3
[20:07] <Korynne> oh em gee
[20:07] <Korynne> better make sure i dont give off any scum tells
[20:07] <@Koshi> My new theory
[20:07] <@Koshi> Why is it so crazy?
[20:07] <@Koshi> It actually makes perfect sense
[20:07] <@Koshi> IF you 4 would be scum
[20:07] <@Koshi> It's perfect scumplay
[20:08] <@Koshi> I am just THE KOSHI
[20:08] <@Koshi> Should have shot the KOSHI
[20:08] <@Koshi> THE KOSHI*
[20:09] <Korynne> lol
[20:09] <Korynne> who 4?
[20:10] <@Koshi> SnB Vayne Wiggles Khyronne
[20:10] <@Koshi> Got to read man D:
[20:10] <Korynne> no cuz
[20:10] <Korynne> before you said 4
[20:10] <Korynne> without me
[20:10] <Korynne> so li3k
[20:10] <Korynne> Also why you keep butchering my name
[20:10] <Korynne> in the most obnoxious not even close fashion
[20:12] <@Koshi> Yeah I am bad with names
[20:12] <@Koshi> Sorry
[20:12] <@Koshi> Korynne
[20:12] <Korynne>
[20:12] <Korynne> Anyways
[20:12] <@Koshi> rayn looks actually really town to me.
[20:12] <@Koshi> But you.
[20:12] <Korynne> I don't get the conspiracy theory
[20:13] <@Koshi> Its not a conspiracy theory
[20:13] <@Koshi> It's fits perfectly
[20:13] <@Koshi> it*
[20:13] <@Koshi> You guys want to lynch wrong in the MZ/marv
[20:13] <@Koshi> It's perfect because both are town.
[20:13] <Korynne> How do you explain layabout?
[20:13] <@Koshi> Framer
[20:13] <Korynne> Bro
[20:14] <@Koshi> Miller
[20:14] <Korynne> if mafia managed to frame that good
[20:14] <Korynne> This is a normal game
[20:14] <@Koshi> Nononono
[20:14] <@Koshi> Luck is good
[20:14] <@Koshi> Miller
[20:14] <Korynne> Why are people popping up like 30471038571386 roles everywhere?
[20:14] <@Koshi> Dnu
[20:14] <Korynne> Does miller know he's miller?
[20:14] <@Koshi> nope
[20:14] <@Koshi> Normally not
[20:14] <@Koshi> he gets VT role
[20:14] <@Koshi> But who cares
[20:15] <@Koshi> Let's say he is miller/framer
[20:15] <@Koshi> How is it conspiracy?
[20:15] <@Koshi> You 4 are activily doing this
[20:15] <@Koshi> VA is being an jackass towards MZ and Marv
[20:15] <@Koshi> He is being blatantly wrong about so many things
[20:15] <@Koshi> While he pushes this agenda
[20:16] <Korynne> What are the chances there's a framer/miller? Pretty low.
[20:16] <@Koshi> You still agree SnB needs to get shot?
[20:16] <Korynne> Yeah but this is MYLO.
[20:16] <@Koshi> I DON4T CARE ABOUT THE MILLER/FRAMER
[20:16] <@Koshi> LETS SAY IT IS THERE
[20:16] <@Koshi> WHAT ABOUT MY THEORY THEN?
[20:16] <Korynne> Everyone's jumping their asses on SnB.
[20:16] <Korynne> So that's suspect.
[20:17] <Korynne> Like, everyone seems to be like, oh hey, this marv/mz thing sounsd good... NEVERMIND I VOTE SNB
[20:17] <@Koshi> Nope not everybody
[20:17] <Korynne> There's 4/11 mafia
[20:17] <@Koshi> You 4 aren't
[20:17] <@Koshi> Oats thinks marv/MZ are town
[20:17] <Korynne> Yeah great scum strat, all go on the same bus, die together.
[20:17] <@Koshi> MZ is being butthurt towards marv the entire game
[20:17] <@Koshi> Marv is being annoyed by my stupidity
[20:17] <@Koshi> You don't go to the same bus
[20:18] <@Koshi> You all go to the same tactic
[20:18] <@Koshi> that luckily for you got enhanced by a town plurity cop
[20:18] <@Koshi> So it's amazing
[20:19] <@Koshi> It fits so well
[20:19] <@Koshi> insanely well
[20:19] <@Koshi> like perfect
[20:19] <@Koshi> it fits
[20:20] <Korynne> Iunno how to explain.
[20:20] <@Koshi> Ok you don't have to.
[20:20] <@Koshi> PM me.
[20:20] <Korynne> Like, I play mechanically, cop check is more reliable to me than reads.
[20:21] <Korynne> Like, I'm not into this whole like, let's assume there's 50 roles inthe game thing.
[20:22] <Korynne> I don't really believe Oats (30%?) and if he is cop then great, MZ is confirmed.
[20:22] <Korynne> But no, let's all wave around the idea of framers and millers
[20:23] <Korynne> I'm not defending SnB, I'm okay with lynching him yesterday (if sloosh didnt get pardoned) or tomorrow after we kill MZ scum.
[20:23] <Korynne> I don't understand why the whole town seems to be like
[20:23] <Korynne> oh a check, naw there's no way that's legit.
[20:23] <Korynne> I mean now let's pull like 10 roles out of our asses.
[20:23] <Korynne> Yeah that's about right, good. Ok, now we can lynch SnB.
[20:24] <Korynne> There's 4 mafia left.
[20:24] <Korynne> 1. If SnB is mafia, he's vigi.
[20:24] <Korynne> 2. Mafia pardoner, either Rayn or some guy who's a pardoner.
[20:24] <Korynne> 3. Yama was a silencer
[20:25] <Korynne> You think they have a framer as well?
[20:25] <@Koshi> Nope. Probably miller then
[20:25] <Korynne> Great, so much coincidence.
[20:25] <@Koshi> But you know what I think is strange
[20:25] <Korynne> If miller doesn't know who he is
[20:25] <@Koshi> That you don't want to accept that this is actually a legit strat
[20:25] <Korynne> There's like a, 2/20 or like a 2/10 chance it lands on marv/mz.
[20:26] <Korynne> It's too circumstancial
[20:26] <Korynne> *circumstantial
[20:26] <@Koshi> It isn't
[20:26] <@Koshi> It's perfect in this theory
[20:26] <@Koshi> It happned
[20:26] <Korynne> Everyone just pulls roles out of their asses when they need to explain something.
[20:26] <@Koshi> happened
[20:26] <@Koshi> Nope
[20:26] <@Koshi> Miller was there from the start
[20:26] <Korynne> Well obviously he'd have to be there from the start.
[20:26] <@Koshi> Indeed
[20:27] <Korynne> What kind of statement is that xD
[20:27] <@Koshi> And when a town cop went to look between MZ and Marv.
[20:27] <@Koshi> ONLY THEN
[20:27] <@Koshi> Scum made the play to lynch between these 2
[20:27] <Korynne> Why not leave layabout alive then?
[20:27] <@Koshi> What?
[20:27] <@Koshi> Why would they?
[20:27] <Korynne> If layabout is alive right now.
[20:27] <Korynne> There would be a 3rd check.
[20:27] <Korynne> And we would gladly lynch whoever is the odd man out right?
[20:28] <Korynne> Unless it's like, Rayn, Marv and MZ or.. iunno, whoever you want to pretend is like, the towniest of towns.
[20:28] <Korynne> Or like, SnB marv and MZ.
[20:28] <Korynne> Point is, if you let layabout live
[20:28] <Korynne> he gets a 3rd check in
[20:28] <Korynne> and it's ez pz lynch that guy
[20:28] <@Koshi> Ok m8.
[20:28] <@Koshi> We are different from opinion atm
[20:28] <Korynne> If both MZ and Marv are innocent
[20:28] <@Koshi> that's ok
[20:28] <@Koshi> I have been wrong so much this game
[20:28] <Korynne> You know what I'm saying though
[20:28] <Korynne> re layabout?
[20:28] <@Koshi> Maybe this time as well :D
[20:29] <@Koshi> Yup.
[20:29] <Korynne> Like I dont need you to agree, I just need you to understand what I asid.
[20:29] <Korynne> Ya
[20:29] <Korynne> So like, you can circlejerk this shit all over the place.
[20:29] <@Koshi> But you guys killed him with the plan to push into MZ/Marv
[20:29] <@Koshi> After that it would be ez win for you lads
[20:29] <Korynne> No but don't you see.
[20:29] <@Koshi> But let's other people take a mppl at it
[20:29] <Korynne> Like look.
[20:29] <@Koshi> mppl = look
[20:29] <Korynne> We started night at 4/13
[20:30] <Korynne> If mafia kills 2 towns, that's 4/11, AND LEAVE LAYABOUT ALIVE, ok?
[20:30] <Korynne> Now layabout comes back the next day
[20:30] <Korynne> he's like, yo X is same alignment as Marv/MZ.
[20:30] <@Koshi> I don't care about OTHER SCUM PLAYS
[20:30] <Korynne> ...?
[20:30] <@Koshi> I DON'T CARE
[20:30] <Korynne> Uh, wat?
[20:30] <@Koshi> You say my theory is bad
[20:30] <Korynne> Bad is not the right word
[20:31] <Korynne> Circumstantial is the word I'm going for
[20:31] <@Koshi> And you counter with another scum theory
[20:31] <Korynne> and also I'm explaining why that's unlikely
[20:31] <@Koshi> Nope
[20:31] <@Koshi> Scum went for this
[20:31] <Korynne> ?
[20:31] <@Koshi> Hmm
[20:31] <@Koshi> Look
[20:31] <@Koshi> I want
[20:31] <@Koshi> to let marv take a look
[20:31] <@Koshi> :D
[20:31] <Korynne> Sure you can post the logs when we're done.
[20:31] <@Koshi> Let's end this here
[20:31] <Korynne> Why?
[20:31] <Korynne> You're like completely ignoring me.
[20:31] <@Koshi> Vote for me. I don't care.
[20:31] <Korynne> You're like NOPE NOPE DONT CARE BYE
[20:31] <@Koshi> Yup
[20:31] <@Koshi> Exactly
[20:31] <Korynne> Wtf man.
[20:31] <@Koshi> Bye
[20:32] <Korynne> Are you serious?!
[20:32] <Korynne> I have to sit here and be like
[20:32] <Korynne> Oh Koshi that's an amazing theory
[20:32] <Korynne> wow you just solved everything
[20:32] <@Koshi> Thx!
[20:32] <Korynne> You're amazing props
[20:32] <@Koshi> I AM THE KOSHI
[20:32] <Korynne> And then when I'm like, ehh, that seems weird
[20:32] <Korynne> you're like OMG NO SHUT UP IM PASTING LOGS BYE
[20:32] <Korynne> wtf?
[20:32] <@Koshi> Nope
[20:32] <@Koshi> I was going to post logs anyway
[20:32] <Korynne> Yeah I know.
[20:32] <Korynne> You said that.
[20:32] <Korynne> But I don't get why I can't explain things.
[20:32] <Korynne> Here
[20:32] <@Koshi> I can't discuss this with you m8.
[20:33] <Korynne> Why??
[20:33] <@Koshi> I think you are scum
[20:33] <@Koshi> I am tunneling you
[20:33] <Korynne> You're posting logs anyways!
[20:33] <@Koshi> I cant think straight
[20:33] <Korynne> Who cares?
[20:33] <@Koshi> Ok sure.
[20:33] <Korynne> if I talk more you get more evidence
[20:33] <@Koshi> Keep posting.
[20:33] <@Koshi> I will add your defense as well
[20:33] <Korynne> Like wtf is kbye.
[20:33] <@Koshi> Thats why I post logs
[20:33] <Korynne> Anyways.
[20:33] <Korynne> Yeah you're pasting logs, I get it.
[20:33] <@Koshi> I am posting them so you can defend yourself
[20:34] <@Koshi> I am not certain on you
[20:34] <@Koshi> Not on VA
[20:34] <@Koshi> Not on anybody
[20:34] <Korynne> Why can't I defend myself here
[20:34] <Korynne> instead of wasting a post
[20:34] <@Koshi> Please do
[20:34] <Korynne> in a post limit thing
[20:34] <Korynne> No but what I was saying, before you got all kthxbai on me.
[20:34] <Korynne> Is that, let us assume, Marv and MZ are not mafia, and framer/miller/wahtever.
[20:34] <Korynne> Ok, so if I was mafia, I would leave layabout alive.
[20:35] <Korynne> Because he'll come back during the day and be like, yo, here's my check on X, and it's same/diff as marv/mz.
[20:35] <Korynne> And then you can easily get town to lynch marv/mz for being the odd man out.
[20:35] <Korynne> So if they're both innocent, that's so good for mafia.
[20:35] <Korynne> They can just sit back and let layabout come up with his check.
[20:36] <Korynne> So I don't see why, if marv/mz are both innocent, they'd kill layabout.
[20:36] <Korynne> If marv/mz is not innocent, then killing layabout prevents town from knowing which one of the two is guilty.
[20:36] <Korynne> because he doesn't get his 3rd check in
[20:37] <Korynne> And you're not even here are you... you're just waiting for me to be done and copy pasta. -.-
[20:38] <Korynne> Like I don't think you're mafia... I'm just trying to let you see where I'm coming from.
[20:38] <Korynne> And I'd appreciate it if you gave it as much thought as I gave to your theory.
[20:39] <@Koshi> I was eating.
[20:39] <@Koshi> Sorry.
[20:40] <@Koshi> I must admit I was a bit rude before
[20:40] <@Koshi> Or a lot :D
[20:40] <@Koshi> I agree with what you say. That is another way scum could have played this
[20:40] <@Koshi> Maybe even better
[20:40] <Korynne> So like *shrug*
[20:41] <@Koshi> What about we swap you and rayn in the scum list?
[20:41] <@Koshi> And they didn't think about that theory?
[20:41] <@Koshi> And they wanted to kill both cops?
[20:41] <Korynne> I mean, Rayn is Rayn.
[20:41] <Korynne> Iunno why you think Oats is fine.
[20:41] <@Koshi> I have 2 theories atm
[20:41] <@Koshi> Marv oats is scum
[20:42] <@Koshi> And then this one
[20:42] <Korynne> Rayn is rayn as in, he claimed pardoner
[20:42] <@Koshi> But this one fits so good
[20:42] <@Koshi> Imagine it is rayn indeed
[20:42] <@Koshi> And he is the scum pardoner :D
[20:42] <Korynne> But to me, this one fits so good in a like, omg look there's the face of jesus in my toast.
[20:42] <@Koshi> Ah no
[20:42] <@Koshi> I don't agree there
[20:42] <@Koshi> You 4 are pushing into this marv/MZ thing
[20:43] <@Koshi> VA is playing fishy
[20:43] <@Koshi> You are trying to keep me away from SnB
[20:43] <Korynne> VA seems to be defending SnB
[20:43] <Korynne> I'm not keeping you away from SnB
[20:43] <@Koshi> Wiggles comes to add into this MZ/Marv thing
[20:43] <Korynne> me and Wiggles see the same thing I think
[20:43] <Korynne> Which is like, we have a dead cop claim that these two guys are diff alignments
[20:43] <Korynne> iunno why vayne is defending SnB that's just...yeah iunno.
[20:44] <@Koshi> He is not only defending SnB. He is being strange all over the plae
[20:44] <Korynne> Like if layabout wasn't dead today, ignoring what his check would give you, I would go for SnB.
[20:44] <Korynne> Or like, if he checked SnB
[20:44] <Korynne> I'm good with lynching SnB
[20:44] <@Koshi> Are you now giving reasons why scum killed latabout :D ?
[20:44] <Korynne> and then the guy that's scum according to layabout's check if we trust layabout
[20:45] <Korynne> Basically
[20:45] <Korynne> killing layabout
[20:45] <Korynne> "confirms" his check
[20:45] <Korynne> but
[20:45] <Korynne> it doesn't confirm his alignment
[20:45] <Korynne> I think ideal time to kill layabout is tonight instead of last night if mafia.
[20:45] <@Koshi> That's the beauty of it. It confirms the lucky shit that 1 of MZ/marv is the miller
[20:45] <Korynne> If both MZ and Marv are innocent.
[20:45] <Korynne> I think it makes the most sense
[20:46] <Korynne> To kill layabout tonight
[20:46] <Korynne> Because you get the 3 checks
[20:46] <Korynne> and his confirmed alignment
[20:46] <Korynne> and so you ahve to lynch the odd man out or w/e
[20:46] <Korynne> you know?
[20:46] <@Koshi> Maybe scum got cocky and wanted to save SnB?
[20:46] <Korynne> For what?
[20:46] <Korynne> He's gunna get lynched at some point
[20:47] <Korynne> We're eventually gunna run out of shit to do
[20:47] <@Koshi> Not when we go into the marv/MZ shit
[20:47] <Korynne> Yeah but what I'm saying is
[20:47] <@Koshi> And people are convinced 1 is scum
[20:47] <Korynne> it's not about saving SnB
[20:47] <Korynne> SnB is like, a number basically, if he's scum
[20:47] <Korynne> Scum knows they can't save him, busing him is best strat probs
[20:47] <Korynne> So it's not so much about saving snb
[20:47] <Korynne> as like, delaying it and having him be a number
[20:47] <Korynne> if that makes sense
[20:48] <@Koshi> They got cocky with this. I agree with you. They got cocky and are now getting punished
[20:48] <Korynne> Or like, if SnB is not scum (unlikely) then they're pushing it really hard today
[20:48] <@Koshi> They should have bussed SnB
[20:48] <Korynne> They still could be
[20:48] <Korynne> Rayn voted for SnB
[20:48] <Korynne> strongandbig (4): Koshi, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta
[20:48] <@Koshi> I think Rayn is away for his Birthday
[20:48] <@Koshi> And went for the easy bus
[20:48] <Korynne> +marv
[20:49] <Korynne> so that's 5 people on SnB already
[20:49] <@Koshi> Sorry Kyronne. I really think this is it
[20:49] <@Koshi> I am so confident
[20:49] <@Koshi> I never felt like this in mafia
[20:49] <@Koshi> never
[20:49] <Korynne> lol
[20:49] <Korynne> I mean if you feel it you feel it, I'm just giving my opinions.
[20:49] <Korynne> We're all entitled to our own opinions and votes.
[20:49] <@Koshi> Ok and I appreciate it.
[20:49] <@Koshi> Yup
[20:49] <Korynne> I'm just presenting my side, you're presenting yours.
[20:49] <@Koshi> Let's hope that SnB flips scum
[20:49] <Korynne> And if we talk this out here we save posts.
[20:49] <@Koshi> And we can then decide on Marv/oats or this new crazy strat from me :D
[20:50] <Korynne> Oh also.
[20:50] <Korynne> What's your take on the Marv/Sloosh shenanigans?
[20:50] <@Koshi> Or maybe it is SnB/Kyrone/Adam/wiggles that is scum
[20:50] <@Koshi> Shit
[20:50] <@Koshi> Butchered your name again
[20:50] <Korynne> lol
[20:50] <@Koshi> Korynne
[20:50] <Korynne> even worse this time gg
[20:50] <Korynne> Seems awkward though
[20:50] <Korynne> 2 afks and me? (ignoring snb)
[20:51] <@Koshi> I know
[20:51] <Korynne> I wouldn't expect 2 afks
[20:51] <@Koshi> Everything is possible
[20:51] <Korynne> out of 4 mafia
[20:51] <@Koshi> Koshi/Kyronne/Marv/VA
[20:51] <Korynne> like snb is toast so w/e
[20:51] <@Koshi> Everything can
[20:51] <Korynne> lol no afks
[20:51] <@Koshi> Put this theory
[20:51] <@Koshi> But*
[20:51] <@Koshi> It fits
[20:51] <@Koshi> I love it
[20:51] <@Koshi> If it is wrong
[20:51] <Korynne> the one with you as scum?
[20:51] <@Koshi> I will be sad
[20:51] <@Koshi> hehe
[20:51] <@Koshi> No
[20:51] <Korynne>
[20:52] <@Koshi> I will be like L
[20:52] <@Koshi> (if you watched Death Note
[20:52] <Korynne> Also you didn't answer me
[20:52] <@Koshi> )
[20:52] <@Koshi> Sloosh/Marv?
[20:52] <Korynne> Ya I don't remember what happens in death note anymore
[20:52] <Korynne> The fact that Sloosh messaged marv
[20:52] <Korynne> and was like yo SK
[20:52] <@Koshi> Yeah
[20:52] <@Koshi> supergay
[20:52] <@Koshi> I don't know
[20:52] <Korynne> Cuz like, if there is an SK
[20:53] <Korynne> It's /very/ likely to be between Marv and MZ.
[20:53] <@Koshi> And THAT IS WHY THESE 4 SCUM ARE DOING ALL THIS
[20:53] <@Koshi> YOU FUCKING SOLVED IT
[20:53] <@Koshi> THATS WHY
[20:53] <@Koshi> THEY WANT THE SK
[20:53] <Korynne> Wait but.
[20:53] <@Koshi> Maybe there is
[20:53] <@Koshi> FUCK YEAH
[20:53] <Korynne> No, but problem is.
[20:53] <Korynne> If there is an SK.
[20:54] <Korynne> Then it's very likely that mafia has 1KP, and SK has 1 KP.
[20:54] <Korynne> So doesn't that mean Marv/MZ is SK and we need to kill them first?
[20:54] <Korynne> Cuz if mafia has 1 KP, then killing SnB doesn't do anything.'
[20:54] <Korynne> Wait hold on
[20:54] <Korynne> ok
[20:54] <Korynne> let's assume
[20:54] <Korynne> SnB is mafia
[20:54] <Korynne> and Marv/MZ is SK
[20:54] <Korynne> if we kill SnB
[20:54] <Korynne> then 3/10 left
[20:54] <@Koshi> We don't fucking know there is a SK
[20:54] <Korynne> 2 KP at night
[20:54] <Korynne> 3/8 tomorrow
[20:54] <@Koshi> Kyronne. You are being scummy right now
[20:55] <Korynne> ya hold on, this is an assume if there is an sk
[20:55] <Korynne> bro you wanna chill while i math
[20:55] <@Koshi> Math away!
[20:55] <Korynne> so that's 3/8 tomorrow.
[20:55] <Korynne> That's not bad
[20:55] <Korynne> wait no
[20:55] <Korynne> shit
[20:55] <Korynne> uh
[20:55] <Korynne> if it's 3/8 but there's an sk
[20:55] <Korynne> uhhh
[20:55] <Korynne> i dont know what that means actually
[20:55] <Korynne> if there's 1 sk, 3 mafia and 4 town
[20:55] <@Koshi> You should see me do maths at the end of Nuclear to lynch the SK :D. It was perfect math why town should kill the SK :D
[20:56] <Korynne> What happens Koshi do you know?
[20:56] <Korynne> If we end up with 1 sk 3 mafia and 4 town tomorrow
[20:56] <Korynne> Is that a loss for town?
[20:56] <@Koshi> It continues
[20:56] <@Koshi> It always continues when SK is alive
[20:56] <@Koshi> Unless 3 scum and 1 SK or something like that :D
[20:57] <@Koshi> I had that problem in nuclear
[20:57] <@Koshi> Stupid CaucasianAsian
[20:57] <Korynne> cuz hrtr
[20:57] <Korynne> *cuz here
[20:57] <Korynne> http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Mislynch_and_Lose
[20:57] <Korynne> it says if 1 mafia, 1 killer and 2 town then town loses
[20:58] <Korynne> so wait
[20:58] <@Koshi> I don't know tbh. Like what happens with 2 town and SK in the day.
[20:58] <Korynne> if scum and sk left, then scum wins?
[20:58] <@Koshi> I am pretty new
[20:58] <@Koshi> I DON4T CARE
[20:58] <@Koshi> Really
[20:58] <Korynne> o-o;;
[20:58] <@Koshi> Do not care
[20:58] <Korynne> So ok.
[20:58] <Korynne> Here's the possible situations.
[20:58] <Korynne> A) SnB scum, Marv/MZ both innocent
[20:58] <Korynne> Whatever let's assume SnB is scum
[20:59] <Korynne> B) SnB scum, Marv/MZ one is scum
[20:59] <Korynne> C) SnB scum, Marv/MZ one is SK
[20:59] <Korynne> so in A)
[20:59] <@Koshi> Really m8. Are you trying to go into Marv/MZ after all?
[20:59] <@Koshi> Jeez
[21:00] <@Koshi> You are scum
[21:00] <@Koshi> fuck this
[21:00] <@Koshi> ...
[21:00] <Korynne> 4/11, we kill SnB, 3/10, 1 person dies at night (mafia KP is prob #/3 if there's no SK), 3/9 tomorrow, we good.
[21:00] <Korynne> Bro wtf, you jsut have to sit there why you fuck this fuck that.
[21:00] <Korynne> I'm doing math can you just chill the fuck out.
[21:00] <@Koshi> But this is not important
[21:00] <Korynne> How is this not important
[21:00] <Korynne> You don't even know where I'm going with this
[21:00] <Korynne> and you say this is not imporatnt
[21:00] <Korynne> You're doing it again.
[21:01] <Korynne> You and friggin gumshoe.
[21:01] <Korynne> Get all up on my grill for no reason.
[21:01] <@Koshi> I am pretty sure this is going into we should lynch into marv/MZ to catch the SK
[21:01] <Korynne> You wanna call me scum call me scum, don't get all dont listen dont care.
[21:01] <@Koshi> Arfffffff Let's do math....
[21:02] <Korynne> B) SnB is dead anyways, better to have him die than Marv/MZ for mafia?
[21:02] <Korynne> Math is the same as A), 3/9 tomorrow we good
[21:03] <Korynne> C) SnB scum, we lynch him, 2 people die at night bceasue 1 KP mafia 1 KP sk, 3 mafia 1 SK 4 town tomorrow (no fucking clue what that means you're posting someone in thread answers hopefully)
[21:03] <Korynne> If we get SK
[21:03] <Korynne> that's 3/10, 1 KP at night, 3/9 tomorrow.
[21:03] <Korynne> Herm.
[21:03] <Korynne> So if SnB is scum.
[21:03] <Korynne> wait hold on
[21:03] <Korynne> if we lynch the wrong guy
[21:04] <Korynne> that's 4/10, 2 KP at night, 4/8 tomorrow GG.
[21:04] <Korynne> wait but
[21:04] <Korynne> if SK kills mafia at night
[21:04] <@Koshi> :D
[21:04] <Korynne> it's 3/8, still probably GG
[21:04] <Korynne> So wait
[21:05] <Korynne> hmm
[21:06] <Korynne> I think we're ok if there's an SK
[21:06] <Korynne> So on the like 1% chance SnB isn't mafia
[21:06] <Korynne> that's 4/10, SK can still hit mafia at night if he wants to win.
[21:06] <Korynne> Ya ok.
[21:06] <Korynne> So basically
[21:07] <Korynne> we need to know what happens, win condition wise, if there's an SK
[21:07] <@Koshi> SnB needs to go man. If he is town I am sorry, but I don't believe it for a moment.
[21:07] <Korynne> No but see ehre's the thing
[21:07] <Korynne> even if SnB isn't scum, we can still win if we mislynch him and there's an SK
[21:07] <Korynne> Because SK can hit mafia at night.
[21:07] <@Koshi> I don't believe in SK
[21:07] <Korynne> That's not the point.
[21:08] <Korynne> The point is we're still ok if SnB is not scum.
[21:08] <Korynne> So TL;DR - we can lynch SnB today and we're okay EVEN IF there is an SK.
[21:08] <Korynne> Because SK can hit mafia at night, if he doesn't then mafia wins over SK I think.
[21:08] <@Koshi> Ugh, I don't know what to think of this last 15 minutes. Why are we talking about a SK?
[21:09] <@Koshi> Lets get SnB
[21:09] <@Koshi> Lets get marv/MZ/VA after that
[21:09] <Korynne> Bro just read my TL;DR.
[21:09] <Korynne>
[21:09] <@Koshi> I did
[21:09] <Korynne> Ya so we good for SnB today.
[21:09] <Korynne> I thought we fucked if we don't catch SK if there is one.
[21:10] <@Koshi> Please think hard about my theory.
[21:10] <Korynne> Cuz in B), we don't care about killing snb or the scum in marv/mz.
[21:10] <Korynne> But if we dont care about SK, then yeah SnB better lynch.
[21:10] <Korynne> Ok, going for it.
[21:10] <Korynne> Can you repeat your theory
[21:10] <@Koshi> VA/Wiggles/SnB and 1 more (I think you :D)
[21:10] <@Koshi> Read it
[21:10] <@Koshi> jeez
[21:10] <Korynne> Jeez I didn't want to scroll.
[21:10] <@Koshi> arfff
[21:10] <Korynne> Like, did youw rite it out above?
[21:10] <Korynne> In thread?
[21:10] <Korynne> Or like, you just mean names
[21:11] <Korynne> I go read thread
[21:11] <@Koshi> Thx.
[21:11] <@Koshi> I will clean my theory up.
[21:11] <@Koshi> Make it propper
[21:11] <Korynne> Oh what do you mean by
[21:11] <Korynne> "I was actually lying about Rayn before"
[21:11] <@Koshi> You sent me a pm
[21:11] <@Koshi> about SnB
[21:12] <@Koshi> Then I got this insane theory
[21:12] <@Koshi> Well
[21:12] <@Koshi> Perfect theory
[21:12] <@Koshi> Suddenly I got a clear mind
[21:12] <Korynne> oh you said in threa that rayn did?
[21:12] <@Koshi> No. I wanted to get you in IRC chat
[21:12] <Korynne> Anyawys doesn't matter.
[21:12] <@Koshi> So I first said Rayn, because you suspect rayn
[21:12] <@Koshi> But I wanted you :D
[21:12] <Korynne> I've got work to do.
[21:12] <@Koshi> ok cool
[21:12] <@Koshi> laters
[21:12] <Korynne> So you write up your theory
[21:13] <Korynne> I'm gunna write up the SK win conditions thing cuz neither of us knows.
[21:13] <Korynne> But basically I think we're safe to lynch SnB
[21:13] <Korynne> even if Marv/MZ is an SK
[21:13] <@Koshi> Sexy.
[21:13] <Korynne> and if that's the case, then SnB makes a better lynch.
[21:13] <@Koshi> k



I want you guys to look at this and agree with me it makes perfect sense? I know you guys believe it is unlikely that scum is all pushing this agenda. I already hear you saying that. But it fits so perfectly.It's simple, effective and possible.

I really really believe these guys are scum and are pushing this agenda. Please look at it.


+ Show Spoiler +

On July 28 2013 05:27 Koshi wrote:
In case I die.

Scums:
Wiggles
VA (One of Wiggles/VA could be replaced by MZ, MZ is looking pretty bad himself)
Kyronne (He could be replaced by rayn, but I am going for kyronne here, if Kyronne flips town, rayn is probably scum and MZ is scum as well because kyronne came up with the bussing of VE day 1 because both SloOsh and MZ are scum)

It's somewhere in those lines. I am leaning away from marv/oats being scum. But who the knows right?



Kushm4sta isn't scum though? I can't believe you call his filter bad, it's filled with 1 liners but at least he has been on the right track all the time. He agreed on the SnB lynch, he agreed that kyronne looked scummy. He was genuinely surprised when I first said those 4 names, he accepted the idea when I made the case (see spoiler 1) Kushm4sta is not scum. Not in my book. Never.
It's very cute that you found a post in his filter that makes it look that kush believed early on that marv was 3rd p, but if you look in all the posts a person made, you are always going to find 1 little thing. Especially in filters from town players.

It's so unbelievable that you come here and think kush is your biggest chance on scum. I apologize to marv for tunneling so hard on him in early. If I would post better than I did I might have found an ally in him to find them scummies, however the chances are now high that he is the SK. I will now stick to myself, as it is obvious that nobody in this game is wanting to solve this. Your first posts were a delight to read Mocsta. But your case vs kush made it obvious I can't trust anybody. I won't trust anybody.

My suspects for the SK, from high to low.
Marv, MZ, VA, Rayn, kush, mocsta, wiggles


+ Show Spoiler +
Constable Koshi was living in the darkness for so long. he was lost without his detective, due to the detective is final words and his own blind rage constable Koshi was looking at the wrong persons, but yesterday constable Koshi saw the light, he found them scummies, constable Koshi will stick to that theory till he dies.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 28 2013 14:28 GMT
#1342
I'm clearly not the SK. I have a greencheck on me. What's wrong with you people?

1) there's no reason to believe SK gets to "choose" between alignment/one-shotbulletproof

even given 1),

2) I WOULD NEVER CHOOSE TO APPEAR GREEN OVER BULLETPROOF. I've been shot more times playing mafia than almost all of you have played games of mafia.

There's approximately a 0% chance I'm SK at this stage, just on basic logic and deduction.

Anyone pushing that line of thinking is highly suspicious or very stupid.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 14:38 GMT
#1343
I don't feel good about just auto-lynching MZ since oats was actually trustworthy. I think wiggles is honestly a better lynch at this rate. With the Korynne flip it looks like they WERE actually trying to use my vote to accomplish killing marv. I don't see the scum motivation behind MZ switching his vote last second unless MZ and mocsta are the last 2 scum. ( since adam was afk and could not swing the vote, he changes his vote last sec)

That's where I'm at right now. If it's wiggles I dont know who his partner is but if MZ flips scum I can safely say mocsta (adam) is his partner.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 14:43 GMT
#1344
On July 28 2013 15:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 14:40 Mocsta wrote:
(3/25)
Wow. Nice pick up on korynne role pm. I just assumed it was applicable to everything.
Hmmm rayn does need to address this.

Mz is essentially confirmed scum with the parity checks. I would prefer we hunt remaining scum though.



please explain how I'm confirmed scum lol


shit tho, that last comment. Option 2 might actually be really likely lol
I come in for the scraps
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 28 2013 14:43 GMT
#1345
On July 28 2013 23:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't feel good about just auto-lynching MZ since oats was actually trustworthy. I think wiggles is honestly a better lynch at this rate. With the Korynne flip it looks like they WERE actually trying to use my vote to accomplish killing marv. I don't see the scum motivation behind MZ switching his vote last second unless MZ and mocsta are the last 2 scum. ( since adam was afk and could not swing the vote, he changes his vote last sec)

That's where I'm at right now. If it's wiggles I dont know who his partner is but if MZ flips scum I can safely say mocsta (adam) is his partner.


I'm basically mulling between MZ and Wiggles.

MZ really seems to be my "blind spot" this game if you like. But he basically saved my ass, right?

Wiggles just looks terrible in every way.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 14:49 GMT
#1346
On July 28 2013 23:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 23:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't feel good about just auto-lynching MZ since oats was actually trustworthy. I think wiggles is honestly a better lynch at this rate. With the Korynne flip it looks like they WERE actually trying to use my vote to accomplish killing marv. I don't see the scum motivation behind MZ switching his vote last second unless MZ and mocsta are the last 2 scum. ( since adam was afk and could not swing the vote, he changes his vote last sec)

That's where I'm at right now. If it's wiggles I dont know who his partner is but if MZ flips scum I can safely say mocsta (adam) is his partner.


I'm basically mulling between MZ and Wiggles.

MZ really seems to be my "blind spot" this game if you like. But he basically saved my ass, right?

Wiggles just looks terrible in every way.



well false actually. Without the threat of adam (mocsta) there way no way for you to get lynched. Even if there was a scum sitting on SnB waiting to switch, SnB still would have been lynched. So MZ's effort now looks more like an attempt to gain some cred.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 14:51 GMT
#1347
Also we can throw that wiggles theory out the window, we weren't even close to getting endgamed since there's an SK. Mafia did NOT need to lynch you to win.
I come in for the scraps
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 28 2013 14:52 GMT
#1348
Right, so mafia didn't go all-in on me that would suggest.

On the other hand, if they could lynch me over s&b, obviously that would have been optimal for them. I'll have to check exactly how the voting went.

I feel my vote gravitating towards Wiggles in general. Everything he's done feels wrong.

And this pardoning shit... ugh. I need to think hard about it. It's so off.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 28 2013 18:10 GMT
#1349
I voted MZ
Reasons:
1) he is scum
2) he is sk
3) he is not town
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2013 19:09 GMT
#1350
lol for all the people who are not voting for MZ.
You really do not vote for a guy who has a non-town check on him from confirmed cops?

wtf is wrong with this game.
table for two on a tv tray
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 28 2013 19:18 GMT
#1351
I'll vote for myself as well. I absolutely love this tbh. You know marv, it's really in your best interest for me not to die today since you know you're dead when I flip.

Just please kill wiggles and marv when I'm dead.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2013 20:48 GMT
#1352
I will if you flip town. I am just inclined to believe the checks at this point.
table for two on a tv tray
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 28 2013 21:58 GMT
#1353
Ok cool. Let's figure out the last scum.

I really wish you'd tell us why you pardoned sloosh rayn.

I suggest you lynch marv before wiggles because with my death I think it'll be lylo. Once marv's is gone that'll make things a bit easier.

Also I find it ironic we're believing checks now as opposed to yesterday lol.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2013 22:40 GMT
#1354
I have not fucking pardoned Sloosh. That's so ridiculous to even suggest so.
table for two on a tv tray
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 28 2013 22:46 GMT
#1355
Then how did he not die since mafia pardoner couldn't target scum?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 28 2013 23:01 GMT
#1356
What are you on Meapak? I have a greencheck on me from a flipped cop. If you died and flipped town right now I wouldn't give a shit because I still wouldn't be getting lynched because it would be totally retarded.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 23:03 GMT
#1357
On July 29 2013 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
What are you on Meapak? I have a greencheck on me from a flipped cop. If you died and flipped town right now I wouldn't give a shit because I still wouldn't be getting lynched because it would be totally retarded.


He thinks you are godfather remember?

It's no more far fetched than him being miller. That's why I think the wiggles lynch is the best today tbh. He's just laying low hoping for meapak to write his own grave probably.

We should really lynch wiggles.
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2013 23:05 GMT
#1358
Actually Vayne you might be onto something. That's not a far-fetched assumption that mafia has a GF.
Although i fucking know mafia has 2 pardoners or Korynne's role PM was faked somehow.

Meapak's post is full of shit (the one where he does accuse me of pardoning Sloosh).
table for two on a tv tray
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 28 2013 23:07 GMT
#1359
Marv I know what I'm gonna flip lol. I have no idea why there is a disparity between the checks but I will flip green and you will be lynched.

Vayne I would love to kill wiggles.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 28 2013 23:08 GMT
#1360
I won't get lynched because I have a greencheck. Hello?

Pretty fucking clearly not scum after logs with yamato + slOosh + the lynch yesterday.

It's extremely suspicious the fact that you're still pushing me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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