On March 08 2013 20:58 Foxxan wrote: i need to write this man, cant believe parting gets away it seems he immortal all-in all games. In Hots, unbelieable.... .............Its pro level and he gets away with it, in hots....Swarmhost>byebye parting
What do he have if not for that immortal allin, well if he meet a korean zerg he will get raped with that all-in you will see
Can you really get enough swarm host out before the immortal push comes to your third ?
Well yes, you can. The problem is tho the swarmhost upgrade, that makes your locust last 25seconds. That is the big problem but iam certain you can rape it if you practice the swarmhost play and timing
On March 08 2013 20:58 Foxxan wrote: i need to write this man, cant believe parting gets away it seems he immortal all-in all games. In Hots, unbelieable.... .............Its pro level and he gets away with it, in hots....Swarmhost>byebye parting
What do he have if not for that immortal allin, well if he meet a korean zerg he will get raped with that all-in you will see
Parting went with a observer and the mothership core for every push he did. That alone would kill / unborrow the Swarm hosts. I dont wanna argue that the option of swarm host is bad or not saying he'd instalose with it, I just dont think it would 100% bring Stephano the win just by going to them. I do believe they'd help but what do I know. T.T
Swarhost will never be ready at 9 min, and if they are that means you have a well refined build prepared for that. Something which Stephano can't have since he still hasn't trained that much in Hots. Solution will come with time.
Look at the 2nd game, Stephano just lost because of timing, with a 30seconds earlier pit, he would have had viper ready for Parting's timing. Zerg will suffer several loss, till they figure the new timings, it's a reactionary race after all.
On March 08 2013 21:57 Gevna wrote: Swarhost will never be ready at 9 min, and if they are that means you have a well refined build prepared for that. Something which Stephano can't have since he still hasn't trained that much in Hots. Solution will come with time.
Look at the 2nd game, Stephano just lost because of timing, with a 30seconds earlier pit, he would have had viper ready for Parting's timing. Zerg will suffer several loss, till they figure the new timings, it's a reactionary race after all.
you sac some drones, you should know the push is coming with your overlords seeing his gas Even if it is not coming you have a good combat force
So the push comes and yes you have it, you sacrafice economy ofcourse, you not drone to 80 or w.e it is
80 is unrealistic ofc. stephano stoped droning at ~55 drones. imagine if he had to stop even earlyer it would mean at about 40 so you are equal in workers with the toss and that means u loose.
On March 09 2013 03:07 [DIVINE] wrote: 80 is unrealistic ofc. stephano stoped droning at ~55 drones. imagine if he had to stop even earlyer it would mean at about 40 so you are equal in workers with the toss and that means u loose.
Why would that equal lose? You have 3bases vs2
If you somehow gets freetime you can drone like madness and u go way ahead in economy?
Still 3base vs2base equal workers, it seems to be even? And with swarmhost, that unit composition stand no chance... Seems VERY good for zerg.
On March 08 2013 20:58 Foxxan wrote: i need to write this man, cant believe parting gets away it seems he immortal all-in all games. In Hots, unbelieable.... .............Its pro level and he gets away with it, in hots....Swarmhost>byebye parting
What do he have if not for that immortal allin, well if he meet a korean zerg he will get raped with that all-in you will see
Parting went with a observer and the mothership core for every push he did. That alone would kill / unborrow the Swarm hosts. I dont wanna argue that the option of swarm host is bad or not saying he'd instalose with it, I just dont think it would 100% bring Stephano the win just by going to them. I do believe they'd help but what do I know. T.T
It's hard to say, but I think the ling hydralisk build of Stephano on Daybreak was actually the perfect counter of Parting immortal sentry as Startale Life showed it, I don't know why he didn't try to do it the other game the only weakness of the build is a gateway all in. The good part on this build is that it permit to go full mutalisk after it which is the go to build on HoTS right now against non-stargate build.
On March 08 2013 20:58 Foxxan wrote: i need to write this man, cant believe parting gets away it seems he immortal all-in all games. In Hots, unbelieable.... .............Its pro level and he gets away with it, in hots....Swarmhost>byebye parting
What do he have if not for that immortal allin, well if he meet a korean zerg he will get raped with that all-in you will see
Parting went with a observer and the mothership core for every push he did. That alone would kill / unborrow the Swarm hosts. I dont wanna argue that the option of swarm host is bad or not saying he'd instalose with it, I just dont think it would 100% bring Stephano the win just by going to them. I do believe they'd help but what do I know. T.T
It's hard to say, but I think the ling hydralisk build of Stephano on Daybreak was actually the perfect counter of Parting immortal sentry as Startale Life showed it, I don't know why he didn't try to do it the other game the only weakness of the build is a gateway all in. The good part on this build is that it permit to go full mutalisk after it which is the go to build on HoTS right now against non-stargate build.
You can also beat this buidl by timing the P move out and hitting the protoss right as he leaves his base. That is typically how Hyun crushes this build. Although Stephano scouts he doesn't scout as well as Hyun so sometimes it seems like he isn't quite sure what's coming so his army is effectively out of position. When this build is tried at the GSL the protoss just seems to die as he's leaving his base. Stephano keeps his units back at this base and tries to set up flanks there. That simply doesn't work as was just illustrated. I haven't seen the life game you're referring to but ling hydra sounds pretty good. Any two base play with infestors is a direct counter to this build. Blade says you can get SHs out in time to beat this. I really think SHs are the future of PvZ so two base swarm host play probably isn't a bad way to go.
mlg winter against a korean terran first match....not sure if he has problems with terran in HOTS because come on it was fucking mvp he lost from but i hope he can prepare some sound strats for his match
On March 12 2013 01:28 oxyg3n wrote: mlg winter against a korean terran first match....not sure if he has problems with terran in HOTS because come on it was fucking mvp he lost from but i hope he can prepare some sound strats for his match
He played vs Dream as well and he threw away couple of games there which were basically won.
Does anyone have a picture/video of the cake for Stephano? Would love to see that again. :D
On March 12 2013 01:28 oxyg3n wrote: mlg winter against a korean terran first match....not sure if he has problems with terran in HOTS because come on it was fucking mvp he lost from but i hope he can prepare some sound strats for his match
He played vs Dream as well and he threw away couple of games there which were basically won.
Does anyone have a picture/video of the cake for Stephano? Would love to see that again. :D