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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
I put weight on the roleblocks because I had already assumed that I was wrong. It was a coinflip on the RBs because on the night scum shot thrawn they could not have known there were no other blues. wp jay and xata. I am actually serious about the break, I'm probably gonna focus on school and maybe check the forum now and again, smurf or hydra or whatever but I've lost my interest in the game when we have so many townies who play like this. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
At the current level of play on the forum you can't policy lynch someone for being useless because you'll lose the game with straight mislynches. Apart from being mason what did Zentor do? Ruuch was a completely new player, if we had policy lynched him for doing exactly what scum do, we would've lost a townie. Hopeless only played the game when he was under heavy attack, otherwise he was a lazy bastard the rest of the time. Prom was unfortunately afk right when the wagon swapped on him; not his fault, but one of the best townies in the game gets mislynched d1 because people can't think for themselves. Look at this votecount: Xatalos (1): jaybrundage Promethelax (7): slOosh, thrawn2112, grush57, MrZentor, Xatalos, Ruuch, Supersoft Lazermonkey (1): Promethelax Ruuch (4): Lazermonkey, wherebugsgo, Hapahauli, Hopeless1der You have ONE person from the scumteam who voted Prom, and an SK. Come on, really?! I didn't defend Prom on the basis that I didn't want to defend people who were capable of defending themselves. Yet, Prom got mislynched on the basis of some of the shittiest reasoning I've seen. It's been happening time and again in these minis. I wonder how the game would have been different if we left slOosh alive and if he had gotten shots off, but w/e. It doesn't matter, nothing more to say than town never actually played the game apart from a few players. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:43 wherebugsgo wrote: I attacked xatalos d1 and I was shut down completely. I assumed I was wrong because everyone disagreed with me. I put weight on the roleblocks because I had already assumed that I was wrong. It was a coinflip on the RBs because on the night scum shot thrawn they could not have known there were no other blues. wp jay and xata. I am actually serious about the break, I'm probably gonna focus on school and maybe check the forum now and again, smurf or hydra or whatever but I've lost my interest in the game when we have so many townies who play like this. That's sad but yeah, it really makes it harder for town :/ I'll have to improve my towngame considerably now too, since nobody suspected me here in the end and I'm going to be under a lot of scrutiny in the future. I don't know what I'm going to do as scum though, haha... Insta-death? :D | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:50 Xatalos wrote: That's sad but yeah, it really makes it harder for town :/ I'll have to improve my towngame considerably now too, since nobody suspected me here in the end and I'm going to be under a lot of scrutiny in the future. I don't know what I'm going to do as scum though, haha... Insta-death? :D your characterization of kush's play as troll really almost made me vote you, but I knew no one was going to vote you with me. There was no chance in hell you were ever getting lynched after the double RB and everyone calling you town d1. There was just really no way. In fact, I find it more likely that I would have died if I attacked you. | ||
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Vivax
21677 Posts
I know exactly what you mean with all these afks and trolls. But there are solutions to that. Just cause everyone uses the same ruleset for the games it doesn't have to be like that. I think you can do that as host at least. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote: btw... did you both shoot me? scum and sloosh? Yeah they did. Bugs: I know I said this in pm land but you saying that I M a good player means a lot to me and as unhappy as this game made me in a lot of ways you and super both made my day by calling my play good. Getting that recognition from good players means a lot to me. Thanks. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
Boom. At least i catched two bullets for my fellowtownies! awesome! and your play was good since you were the only one who actually really tried something. As i said before. If you try to do something, like really reading someones meta, you're much easier to read. And if everyone does it, the game is actually painfully much work for scum. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:54 Promethelax wrote: Yeah they did. Bugs: I know I said this in pm land but you saying that I M a good player means a lot to me and as unhappy as this game made me in a lot of ways you and super both made my day by calling my play good. Getting that recognition from good players means a lot to me. Thanks. I'd much rather have 20 of you than 1 of grush on my team I don't think I would have lynched him given that I kept having to remind myself of his meta, but I was just so frazzled and confused at how I could have been wrong about Xata, how both jay and lazer could have done nothing, that I "knew" two of jay + lazer + grush had to be scum. I don't understand what you're supposed to do as a player when no one has confidence in you that you are right, so when you are right, you don't have confidence in yourself that you are right. Do you just say fuck you all, I'm right and then destroy the town until they agree with you? It's like pulling teeth, even in BC's game I had correct early reads but 10 or 15 townies pulling me away from them. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:54 Promethelax wrote: Yeah they did. Bugs: I know I said this in pm land but you saying that I M a good player means a lot to me and as unhappy as this game made me in a lot of ways you and super both made my day by calling my play good. Getting that recognition from good players means a lot to me. Thanks. You are pretty good, IMO. Just need to stop with all the BIG PLAY GAMBITS :p You always make me paranoid though lol. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:51 wherebugsgo wrote: your characterization of kush's play as troll really almost made me vote you, but I knew no one was going to vote you with me. There was no chance in hell you were ever getting lynched after the double RB and everyone calling you town d1. There was just really no way. In fact, I find it more likely that I would have died if I attacked you. Heh, I guess I went a bit overboard with resisting the Lazer lynch. I just thought that it would look bad if I easily switched to Lazer, but I couldn't come up with reasons to resist other thank Kush, so I went too far with that one argument. iamperfection agreed with my argument though, so I didn't think you'd be so upset about that. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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Vivax
21677 Posts
I'd miss the funny comments and the reaction faces, and clashing our heads like stubborn goats. Seriously, you had me laughing a lot in past games. Laughed for 5 minutes straight when you replied to annul with that WIFOM picture. :3 | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17679 Posts
That's not to say his scumhunting was up to par, but at least he looked like clear town, something that nobody else in the bits that I read managed (to be fair, I didn't read anything before the last day except for grush's filter). | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:58 wherebugsgo wrote: I'd much rather have 20 of you than 1 of grush on my team I don't think I would have lynched him given that I kept having to remind myself of his meta, but I was just so frazzled and confused at how I could have been wrong about Xata, how both jay and lazer could have done nothing, that I "knew" two of jay + lazer + grush had to be scum. I don't understand what you're supposed to do as a player when no one has confidence in you that you are right, so when you are right, you don't have confidence in yourself that you are right. Do you just say fuck you all, I'm right and then destroy the town until they agree with you? It's like pulling teeth, even in BC's game I had correct early reads but 10 or 15 townies pulling me away from them. I have this problem too. I am right a decent amount, but very very rarely do people actually listen to me because I don't really have a forceful personality. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:59 Xatalos wrote: This was like the main reason I thought you were town TBH. I were resisting so much when there was a clear misslynch potential in me. I think that if you had pushed me, you probebly would've won anyway tho.Heh, I guess I went a bit overboard with resisting the Lazer lynch. I just thought that it would look bad if I easily switched to Lazer, but I couldn't come up with reasons to resist other thank Kush, so I went too far with that one argument. iamperfection agreed with my argument though, so I didn't think you'd be so upset about that. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:58 wherebugsgo wrote: I'd much rather have 20 of you than 1 of grush on my team I don't think I would have lynched him given that I kept having to remind myself of his meta, but I was just so frazzled and confused at how I could have been wrong about Xata, how both jay and lazer could have done nothing, that I "knew" two of jay + lazer + grush had to be scum. I don't understand what you're supposed to do as a player when no one has confidence in you that you are right, so when you are right, you don't have confidence in yourself that you are right. Do you just say fuck you all, I'm right and then destroy the town until they agree with you? It's like pulling teeth, even in BC's game I had correct early reads but 10 or 15 townies pulling me away from them. I honestly, and this is only my chobo self's opinion, think that it would not be that hard for you to convince people if you didn't call all the players terrible and idiots all the time. Getting insulted makes it so people WANT you to be wrong. Which is obviously real BS, and bad in itself, but it's how emotions work. I think you could be a convincing person, though. I see it deep in your soul. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Sure, I'd love to go into a game and just wreck it but you can't exactly do that when 80% of the town faction basically just does nothing the entire game. Imagine Zentor wasn't a mason, or iamp hadn't replaced in, or whatever. Would we have had a town modkill? Would we have lynched Zentor? Imagine scum and SK shot two different targets n1, let's say myself and super. We had no medic protection, so that would have been two correct shots. Would we even have lynched the SK d2? The game was winnable despite the fact that I would place 7-8/13 of the players in the game strongly in the antitown column, even though only 4/13 were actually part of an antitown faction. Imagine if those players pulled their own weight. If you're going to sit around in a game and do nothing at all then of course your votes are going to be worthless. Lurkers are lynched on policy so that when someone rolls scum they can't do what jay did. Jay played very well to his strengths to be able to get away with what he got away with, but if town was proactive that would never in a million years happen. Jay would have been lynched in a heartbeat. | ||
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