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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 27 2013 01:13 GMT
#2221
On January 27 2013 10:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 09:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 27 2013 09:54 Promethelax wrote:
On January 27 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:
btw... did you both shoot me? scum and sloosh?


Yeah they did.

Bugs: I know I said this in pm land but you saying that I M a good player means a lot to me and as unhappy as this game made me in a lot of ways you and super both made my day by calling my play good. Getting that recognition from good players means a lot to me. Thanks.


I'd much rather have 20 of you than 1 of grush on my team

I don't think I would have lynched him given that I kept having to remind myself of his meta, but I was just so frazzled and confused at how I could have been wrong about Xata, how both jay and lazer could have done nothing, that I "knew" two of jay + lazer + grush had to be scum.

I don't understand what you're supposed to do as a player when no one has confidence in you that you are right, so when you are right, you don't have confidence in yourself that you are right. Do you just say fuck you all, I'm right and then destroy the town until they agree with you?

It's like pulling teeth, even in BC's game I had correct early reads but 10 or 15 townies pulling me away from them.

I honestly, and this is only my chobo self's opinion, think that it would not be that hard for you to convince people if you didn't call all the players terrible and idiots all the time.

Getting insulted makes it so people WANT you to be wrong. Which is obviously real BS, and bad in itself, but it's how emotions work.

I think you could be a convincing person, though. I see it deep in your soul.


Haha :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 27 2013 01:33 GMT
#2222
Hey guys at the anniversary dinner ill have to read the obs qt later thos game was really frustrating cause i didnt actually have internet acess i was planning to play this game as aggressive town. The
lurking wasntwasnt by choice wbg
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 27 2013 01:35 GMT
#2223
Good night, it was a fun game although the ragefest at the end was a bit disheartening. I actually totally enjoy playing scum during D1, but it gets less enjoyable towards the end. It's the other way around as town. My last town game was so miserable that this was easily more fun, but I think actually my most fun game might be Paranoia Mafia as town (especially the comeback at the end haha). Hard to say, I like both scum and town. I only wish I could roll blue some day, since that might be more interesting than VT.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 27 2013 01:37 GMT
#2224
On January 27 2013 09:59 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 09:54 Promethelax wrote:
On January 27 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:
btw... did you both shoot me? scum and sloosh?


Yeah they did.

Bugs: I know I said this in pm land but you saying that I M a good player means a lot to me and as unhappy as this game made me in a lot of ways you and super both made my day by calling my play good. Getting that recognition from good players means a lot to me. Thanks.

You are pretty good, IMO. Just need to stop with all the BIG PLAY GAMBITS :p

You always make me paranoid though lol.


Big plays make the game fun. And some of them are great, sometimes they pay off too (see sandroba in CT). I wish my scum play was worse, it makes life hard to be a suspect when I play as protown as protown gets. I feel like my lunch was pretty terrible this game, the only town who honestly thought I was scum was thrawn and it was because I reacted differently to his pressure when I had him as scum and when I had him as town.

Bugs, I agree with you on these towns. I think we need an invite game or two to get high level play back. But foolishness isn't a fan of them as they exclude too many people.

Grush is always improving which I respect a lot. He isn't great but he tries. Zentor in this game didn't even do that which I personally was pretty disgusted by. Hopeless was town if you knew him but again he needs to put more effort into his play. Jay and xata only got away with what they got away with, as you say, because our towns have these kinds of players in them. There needs to be a collective agreement to play well as town and scum instead of playing like shit as town so that you can get away with it as scum. I also really hope that newbies can start in newbie games instead of joining these games.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 27 2013 01:41 GMT
#2225
Thanks for playing Dessert Mini Mafia guys! I kept telling pies to concede in the QT but they didn't listen T.T, WP regardless. Thanks to Dandel for putting up with my AFKing due to work and flavor / vote posting in my absence.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 27 2013 02:06 GMT
#2226
On January 27 2013 10:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Thanks for playing Dessert Mini Mafia guys! I kept telling pies to concede in the QT but they didn't listen T.T, WP regardless. Thanks to Dandel for putting up with my AFKing due to work and flavor / vote posting in my absence.

The Flavor was exquisite.
See: Post 328, scumqt

@Bugs
I`ll be sad if you don`t come back. Perhaps by the time you return I`ll have stopped being such a lurky sonofabitch and you can enjoy a good ole fashioned game of mafia like you used to.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 27 2013 02:07 GMT
#2227
way to much respect given to me in the scum qt.

but thanks
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 27 2013 02:09 GMT
#2228
Eh, in this town top players were super bugs on one level and you and me next level down. There wasn't anyone else to give mad respect to.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 27 2013 02:10 GMT
#2229
On January 27 2013 11:07 iamperfection wrote:
way to much respect given to me in the scum qt.

but thanks


Np You were the towniest town, and although you were on the wrong track, it's most important to establish your townishness. That way you can get people to support you when you get on the right track. That would have been dangerous so you had to die.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 27 2013 02:11 GMT
#2230
Didn't get sleep yet, lol, so I came back again.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 27 2013 02:11 GMT
#2231
Oh, and thrawn, but he gets excluded because he thought I was scum (still love you bro)
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 27 2013 02:14 GMT
#2232
Btw WBG, I have to ask you something. Why was I so scummy for defending Lazer to the last moment? I tried to emulate my town meta completely in that situation and I am very stubborn as town, and pretty wishy-washy as scum. So I don't really get it when you say "your stubbornness on this matter is making me rethink my townread on you". I'd say that I would have suspected myself for sheeping to Lazer, NOT the other way around...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 27 2013 02:16 GMT
#2233
And in fact, for a moment I thought you were testing me: if I sheeped there, you would start pushing me. But I was dead wrong of course.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 27 2013 02:24 GMT
#2234
I like cheesecake.
I almost had ona yesterday....i fucked up and didnt eat it

im terribly sorry guys, this is all my fault
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 27 2013 02:39 GMT
#2235
On January 27 2013 11:14 Xatalos wrote:
Btw WBG, I have to ask you something. Why was I so scummy for defending Lazer to the last moment? I tried to emulate my town meta completely in that situation and I am very stubborn as town, and pretty wishy-washy as scum. So I don't really get it when you say "your stubbornness on this matter is making me rethink my townread on you". I'd say that I would have suspected myself for sheeping to Lazer, NOT the other way around...

Its because you were being stubborn with a weak argument that you weren't even fully explaining or giving evidence of.

Granted, in hindsight, its easy to say "Duh, because he already knew Lazer's alignment so he wasn't trying as hard to make his point and keep his town read from getting lynched."
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 27 2013 02:49 GMT
#2236
well there were a few things.

one, your vote didn't ever move. If you had doubts like I thought you did, I expected your vote to move. That was relatively minor but it had been nagging at me and I never actually expressed that because I had assumed you were town the entire time. Bad assumption to make on my part.

second, the argument for kush being town made no sense in the context of any of the three games, and the fact that you kept telling me to read the game despite the fact that you had no actual evidence to support your meta argument suggested to me you either had confirmation bias or you were bullshitting me. Either some sort of trap (to see whether I was scum) or that you were scum.

When I asked you for the explanation and you never gave one, I became more suspicious. When you finally gave those 4 posts and still called kush trollish in this game, I knew there was something wrong. There was no reason to believe kush was trollish this game, and the two posts you cited in support of calling him trollish weren't indicative of anything at all.

Truly though, even though I rationalized my read on you with the RBs that was more me trying to come up with some reason as to why I would be wrong about you. I never actually thought you were town from your posts, I only thought you were town because everyone else said so and because there had to be a reason they thought so. I simply assumed it after the n2 roleblock where I thought that scum might not risk it knowing there are more blues.

Having seen Hapa claim the RB I should have been more suspicious. I was at some point questioning that but again I didn't think you would waste your RB the entire game (unless you didn't have one and were faking it)
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 27 2013 02:54 GMT
#2237
Sorry for disappointing you guys. I had 2 games and some days I had barely enough time to read the thread. I really wish I was better but I almost don't even know what to do :'(

wbg baby don't hate me
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 27 2013 02:56 GMT
#2238
I don't hate you, just don't sign up for games when you don't have the time to play.

Sign up when you can read the thread, make quality posts, and make the game enjoyable. Forcing your fellow townies to pull your dead weight for you is quite disrespectful to them, IMO.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 27 2013 02:57 GMT
#2239
btw, I lol'd IRL when Xata tried to justify his meta read with kush's witchcraft filter, but quoted posts that were not from witchcraft, but from the chinese grammar micro mafia.

And nobody checked.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 27 2013 02:57 GMT
#2240
Stick to one game at a time.
Build your cases.
Explain your logic.
Push your reads.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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