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On January 22 2013 18:01 GrazerRinge wrote: damm that neural Mothership was really cool move by roro Very refreshing way of lategame p vs z - now my flash shall nomnomnom CJ!
refreshing?
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On January 22 2013 18:00 yoshi245 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 17:59 Tsubbi wrote: even after 20 nerfs the only worthwhile unit to build for zerg are damn infestors tt, hots cant come soon enough I don't even want to get into balance whine, but yeah.. Although I wanted KHAN to win today, was bummed to see Rain lose that yes infestors are good if there counter is not on the battlefield anymore (colossi or ht)
but infestors are not the answer to every composition anymore.
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On January 22 2013 18:01 Belha wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 17:59 SamsungStar wrote:On January 22 2013 17:58 samurai80 wrote: once again a base trade into only winfestors remaining into zerg win... pls stop your balance whining. it was just as gruesome when Roro lost like 15 broodlords to just storm. I think most people here agree that the infestors winning ez pz at the end was kinda ..."sad" for such a good and even game. also you can micro out of storms (which roro opted not to do) you cant micro vs infestors
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Russian Federation325 Posts
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Great final game! That ninja neural of the mothership was so unexpected. And then it remained a close game.
But the last infestor nerf doesn't seem to matter. There are still so many IT's in a small space that they kill everything despite lacking upgrades.
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On January 22 2013 18:02 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 18:01 Belha wrote:On January 22 2013 17:59 SamsungStar wrote:On January 22 2013 17:58 samurai80 wrote: once again a base trade into only winfestors remaining into zerg win... pls stop your balance whining. it was just as gruesome when Roro lost like 15 broodlords to just storm. I think most people here agree that the infestors winning ez pz at the end was kinda ..."sad" for such a good and even game. also you can micro out of storms (which roro opted not to do) you cant micro vs infestors
Kinda difficult to micro broodlords out of storm.
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On January 22 2013 18:01 Belha wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 17:59 SamsungStar wrote:On January 22 2013 17:58 samurai80 wrote: once again a base trade into only winfestors remaining into zerg win... pls stop your balance whining. it was just as gruesome when Roro lost like 15 broodlords to just storm. I think most people here agree that the infestors winning ez pz at the end was kinda ..."sad" for such a good and even game.
I thought it was sad that Roro got a perfect neural parasite on the mothership, fungaled half of Rain's army, and had about as high tier of a Zerg army as you could make, and it got crushed by simple storms and stalkers. That's what's sad to me. And he didn't win with just infestors. It was infestors + 10,000 spine crawlers + toss with ZERO economy.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo.
This is why Rain lost. Those spines were prebuilt so they didn't cost RorO anything (in the sense that they were sunk costs). Never a good idea to lose units to static defenses in low econ scenarios.
Should have expanded and defended.
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Ah well. Grats to Khan. Happy that Stork is winning.
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On January 22 2013 18:02 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 18:01 Belha wrote:On January 22 2013 17:59 SamsungStar wrote:On January 22 2013 17:58 samurai80 wrote: once again a base trade into only winfestors remaining into zerg win... pls stop your balance whining. it was just as gruesome when Roro lost like 15 broodlords to just storm. I think most people here agree that the infestors winning ez pz at the end was kinda ..."sad" for such a good and even game. also you can micro out of storms (which roro opted not to do) you cant micro vs infestors that's wrong imo. you just need to focus fire with your colossi or ht to stop the chain fungle.
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Hungary5029 Posts
Disgusting end to an epic game...i feel bad for Rain.
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Yay for winfestors
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Austria24416 Posts
On January 22 2013 18:04 Novs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 18:02 L3g3nd_ wrote:On January 22 2013 18:01 Belha wrote:On January 22 2013 17:59 SamsungStar wrote:On January 22 2013 17:58 samurai80 wrote: once again a base trade into only winfestors remaining into zerg win... pls stop your balance whining. it was just as gruesome when Roro lost like 15 broodlords to just storm. I think most people here agree that the infestors winning ez pz at the end was kinda ..."sad" for such a good and even game. also you can micro out of storms (which roro opted not to do) you cant micro vs infestors Kinda difficult to micro broodlords out of storm.
But incredibly easy not to clump them like that.
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Rain can just camp the edge of the 4th base with a stalker or three, preventing the mining and making it less effective to use infestor energy vs him.
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On January 22 2013 18:04 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo. This is why Rain lost. Those spines were prebuilt so they didn't cost RorO anything (in the sense that they were sunk costs). Never a good idea to lose units to static defenses in low econ scenarios. Should have expanded and defended. exactly. infestor is fine now : its a support unit with great harass power. but against protoss deathball, mass it doesn't do any damage.
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why FPL update is taking so long? nobody taking care ?
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Austria24416 Posts
On January 22 2013 18:05 DJHelium wrote: Rain can just camp the edge of the 4th base with a stalker or three, preventing the mining and making it less effective to use infestor energy vs him.
I think Roro could've just put a spine behind the mineral line and chilled his corruptors above so they could protect the drones. Not sure if that works though.
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On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo.
Yeah. Not sure why Rain chose to attack there. His third was up much faster. All he needed was obs/cannon at third and some army to defend from infestor run by. Then he just needs 1-2 colo to deny mining on that base from the ridge. I think maybe he thought he was behind economically.
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On January 22 2013 18:04 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo. This is why Rain lost. Those spines were prebuilt so they didn't cost RorO anything (in the sense that they were sunk costs). Never a good idea to lose units to static defenses in low econ scenarios. Should have expanded and defended.
I think he was worried that if he defended, it would give Roro enough time to put up BL's again. Remember, he has no idea how much bank Roro still had. He probably felt he had the advantage on the ground in that moment and was trying to utilize it. It would take a while for Rain's expo to come back online and even longer to push out a new mothership. As you saw, Roro still had a ton of infestors, so it wouldn't be too difficult for him to scrape together 5-6 Broodlords and go back on the attack. It's easy for us to see because we have god vision, but for him as the player, it's a much tougher call.
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On January 22 2013 18:04 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo. This is why Rain lost. Those spines were prebuilt so they didn't cost RorO anything (in the sense that they were sunk costs). Never a good idea to lose units to static defenses in low econ scenarios. Should have expanded and defended.
Absolutely, back off and defend your expand. The Zerg is using the gas for Infestors, your need Colossi also Roro didnt have the eco to go back to Broods.
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