On January 22 2013 12:02 The_Templar wrote: Ok, to have any chance of me winning the FPL round, I need Stork to 3 kill, Reality to win, and Bisu to 3 kill.
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The love to Bisu and Stork always drive me to put them both to my FPL regardless of their performance.
On January 22 2013 12:41 wrathofconn wrote: No more links to Korean stream?
TL staff was asked by OGN not to allow Korean stream links in their OPs
and WhyTF is that?
This is the message I received form TL Staff the day this policy started
However, OGN has asked us to remove the VLC link and the Korean streamlink from the OP. OGN is not technically allowed to show their content overseas and they have some technical issues limiting the streams. We're complying with their request as I hope you understand. Sorry for the inconvenience.
I dont know any details further than this. They just asked me to remove all the korean stream links from my OPs and I know IEG had already asked me in another PM to remove all VLC links which I had already done.
On January 22 2013 12:41 wrathofconn wrote: No more links to Korean stream?
TL staff was asked by OGN not to allow Korean stream links in their OPs
Considering the amount of bad English trolling happening in that OGN stream chat from time to time, I can't say I blame them (even if that's not the actual reason). Seems weird that the Naver SpoTV streams are covered by that too. Oh well! Thanks for the info.
However, OGN has asked us to remove the VLC link and the Korean streamlink from the OP. OGN is not technically allowed to show their content overseas and they have some technical issues limiting the streams. We're complying with their request as I hope you understand. Sorry for the inconvenience.
I dont know any details further than this. They just asked me to remove all the korean stream links from my OPs and I know IEG had already asked me in another PM to remove all VLC links which I had already done.
Yeah, in the OP
So you can give us the link in a next post now!!!!
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 1: 0-0 Reality vs Sacsri Map: Neo Bifrost
0:00 Reality spawns in the top right Sacsri spawns in the bottom left
1:40 rax first for Reality
2:00 Hatch first for Sacsri pool for Sacsri
3:00 CC for Reality
4:00 another CC for Reality inside his main double gas for Reality
5:00 double gas for Sacsri Bunker at the main choke for Reality Factory for Reality
6:00 Reactor for Reality Zergling scout comes through the back entrance of Reality's base before the wall finishes and sees everything Starport started for Reality
7:00 Reactored hellion production started for Reality Lair on the way for Sacsri Double evo chamber for Sacsri Roach warren finishes for Sacsri double ebay for Reality 1-1 Roach upgrades started for Sacsri Roach production started for Sacsri Banshee production started for Reality
8:00 Roach speed started for Sacsri Stim research started for Reality Reality fakes cloak by starting Caduceus reactor on his starport as the overseer flies in 1-1 started for Reality 2 more rax for Reality Caduceus reactor is cancelled
9:00 viking started for Reality Marauder production started for Reality Roaches moving across the map Creep is blocking the 3rd base location of Reality viking starts clearing up overlords
10:00 2-2 roach upgrades started for Sacsri Armory started for Reality 3red base finishes for Sacsri Roaches start attacking the main scvs are pulled to repair more roaches are coming in Reality is losing a lot of scvs the bunker falls
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 1: 0-0 Reality vs Sacsri Map: Neo Bifrost
0:00 Reality spawns in the top right Sacsri spawns in the bottom left
1:40 rax first for Reality
2:00 Hatch first for Sacsri pool for Sacsri
3:00 CC for Reality
4:00 another CC for Reality inside his main double gas for Reality
5:00 double gas for Sacsri Bunker at the main choke for Reality Factory for Reality
6:00 Reactor for Reality Zergling scout comes through the back entrance of Reality's base before the wall finishes and sees everything Starport started for Reality
7:00 Reactored hellion production started for Reality Lair on the way for Sacsri Double evo chamber for Sacsri Roach warren finishes for Sacsri double ebay for Reality 1-1 Roach upgrades started for Sacsri Roach production started for Sacsri Banshee production started for Reality
8:00 Roach speed started for Sacsri Stim research started for Reality Reality fakes cloak by starting Caduceus reactor on his starport as the overseer flies in 1-1 started for Reality 2 more rax for Reality Caduceus reactor is cancelled
9:00 viking started for Reality Marauder production started for Reality Roaches moving across the map Creep is blocking the 3rd base location of Reality viking starts clearing up overlords
10:00 2-2 roach upgrades started for Sacsri Armory started for Reality 3red base finishes for Sacsri Roaches start attacking the main scvs are pulled to repair more roaches are coming in Reality is losing a lot of scvs the bunker falls
11:00 siege tank production started for Reality siege mode research started for Reality infestation pit started for Sacsri the banshee is home trying to clean up roaches Sacsri is 70 supply ahead Reality ggs! Sacsri wins and gives SKT a 1-0 lead!
On January 22 2013 14:57 HolyArrow wrote: Hm... my two favorite Kespa teams.. not sure who to root for.
The best thing to do in this scenario is to flip a coin. Either that or cheer for the team in the lead.
Maybe I should cheer for the team that's behind because then I'd be cheering for seeing the most games possible from my two favorite Kespa teams though.
On January 22 2013 15:18 Brutaxilos wrote: there goes all possibilities for Reality vs Fantasy. :\
On January 22 2013 12:41 wrathofconn wrote: No more links to Korean stream?
TL staff was asked by OGN not to allow Korean stream links in their OPs
and WhyTF is that?
This is the message I received form TL Staff the day this policy started
However, OGN has asked us to remove the VLC link and the Korean streamlink from the OP. OGN is not technically allowed to show their content overseas and they have some technical issues limiting the streams. We're complying with their request as I hope you understand. Sorry for the inconvenience.
I dont know any details further than this. They just asked me to remove all the korean stream links from my OPs and I know IEG had already asked me in another PM to remove all VLC links which I had already done.
Yeah, in the OP
So you can give us the link in a next post now!!!!
On January 22 2013 14:57 HolyArrow wrote: Hm... my two favorite Kespa teams.. not sure who to root for.
The best thing to do in this scenario is to flip a coin. Either that or cheer for the team in the lead.
Maybe I should cheer for the team that's behind because then I'd be cheering for seeing the most games possible from my two favorite Kespa teams though.
[SPL] Samsung KHAN aka Samsung Telecom T1 vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 2: 0-1 Stork vs Sacsri Map: Neo Planet S
0:00 Stork spawns in the bottom left Sacsri spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for Sacsri Nexus first for Stork forge for Stork
3:00 gateway for Stork Cannon for Stork
4:00 double gas for Stork 3rd base for Sacsri Cybernetics core for Stork zealot for Stork
5:00 Robo for Stork sentry for Stork
6:00 double gas for Sacsri 2nd sentry for Stork 2 more gas for Stork Warp prism started for Stork overlord scout of Sacsri sees 4 gas and Robo
7:00 ling speed started for Sacsri Roach warren started for Sacsri 3rd gas for Sacsri observer for Stork +1 attack started for Stork evo chamber for Sacsri 4 more gates for Stork
8:00 Warp prism is scouted as soon as it moves out by a ling immortal started for Stork 2 more gates for Stork (going up to 7) 12 roaches started for Sacsri Sentry drop attempt in the natural of Sacsri but roaches are ready so Stork backs off
9:00 2nd immortal on the way for Stork 3rd immortal started for Stork 50 lings and 12 roaches out for Sacsri Sacsri moving across the map with his units
10:00 10 sentries out for Stork and his 3rd immortal is done another gateway for Stork +1 armor started for Stork Roaches start hitting the forge of stork Stork lets his forge die Sacsri tries to attack into the natural but forcefields are thrown down sentry drop in the natural of sacsri
[SPL] Samsung KHAN aka Samsung Telecom T1 vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 2: 0-1 Stork vs Sacsri Map: Neo Planet S
0:00 Stork spawns in the bottom left Sacsri spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for Sacsri Nexus first for Stork forge for Stork
3:00 gateway for Stork Cannon for Stork
4:00 double gas for Stork 3rd base for Sacsri Cybernetics core for Stork zealot for Stork
5:00 Robo for Stork sentry for Stork
6:00 double gas for Sacsri 2nd sentry for Stork 2 more gas for Stork Warp prism started for Stork overlord scout of Sacsri sees 4 gas and Robo
7:00 ling speed started for Sacsri Roach warren started for Sacsri 3rd gas for Sacsri observer for Stork +1 attack started for Stork evo chamber for Sacsri 4 more gates for Stork
8:00 Warp prism is scouted as soon as it moves out by a ling immortal started for Stork 2 more gates for Stork (going up to 7) 12 roaches started for Sacsri Sentry drop attempt in the natural of Sacsri but roaches are ready so Stork backs off
9:00 2nd immortal on the way for Stork 3rd immortal started for Stork 50 lings and 12 roaches out for Sacsri Sacsri moving across the map with his units
10:00 10 sentries out for Stork and his 3rd immortal is done another gateway for Stork +1 armor started for Stork Roaches start hitting the forge of stork Stork lets his forge die Sacsri tries to attack into the natural but forcefields are thrown down sentry drop in the natural of sacsri
11:00 forge rebuilt for Stork Stork moving out with his army 5 immortals are out for Stork, now 30 roaches out for Sacsri now
12:00 Sacsri sets up a flank as Stork moves towards his natural sandwich from Sacsri Stork forcefields on both sides only 2 of the 5 immortals fall before all of the roaches are killed
13:00 Stork now pushing into the natural of Sacsri Drones in the natural are pulled to defend forcefields block a bunch of units in the natural Stork takes a 20 supply lead forcefield on the main ramp of Sacsri all the natural drones are dead Stork is 40 supply ahead now the natural hatchery is killed
14:00 Roach warren is killed Sacsri just making as many lings as he can but there are still tons of sentries alive lings run in and forcefields just block them Roach warren restarted for Sacsri Stork pushing into the main of Sacsri Stork has more than double Sacsri's supply Sacsri ggs! Stork ties the score at 1-1!
I love watching Proleague, following teams on a regular basis is really fun. The time difference sucks though, it's always so late for me and I can't stay up through the whole thing.
On January 22 2013 15:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I dont think Bisu will be making an apperance today. They can't afford to throw games...
Maybe. But Rain has lost a bunch recently. Coach might think it's time to give another guy a chance: if not Afrotoss or Best, maybe Bisu. (I know it's wishful thinking. :|)
On January 22 2013 15:46 Swords wrote: I love watching Proleague, following teams on a regular basis is really fun. The time difference sucks though, it's always so late for me and I can't stay up through the whole thing.
On January 22 2013 15:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I dont think Bisu will be making an apperance today. They can't afford to throw games...
Maybe. But Rain has lost a bunch recently. Coach might think it's time to give another guy a chance: if not Afrotoss or Best, maybe Bisu. (I know it's wishful thinking. :|)
Kinda depressing how Bisu is their 4th string protoss, soon to be 5th-string once Parting can play
On January 22 2013 15:54 lichter wrote: Do gosu depots work in SC2? A lot of these kespa players like putting their Gateway in a position beside the extractor.
Gosu depot is when you place a building to make the worker pathing more efficient going into geysers
I doubt it. I think the pathing in sc2 is pretty optimal.
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 3: 1-1 Stork vs Fantasy Map: Neo Arkanoid
0:00 Stork spawns in the top left Fantasy spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for Stork
2:00 gas for Stork CC first for Fantasy at his right natural rax for Fantasy Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 zealot for Stork gas for Fantasy 2nd gas for Stork 2nd rax for Fantasy tech lab for Fantasy zealot killing the creep tumor at the left natural of Stork
4:00 Reaper started for Fantasy 2nd gas for Fantasy Nexus for Stork stalker for Stork zealot killing the other creep tumor for Stork
5:00 stim research started for Fantasy repear is killing the creep tumor at Fantasy's left natural robo for Stork reactor for Fantasy sentry for Stork Factory for Fantasy ebay for Fantasy
On January 22 2013 15:54 lichter wrote: Do gosu depots work in SC2? A lot of these kespa players like putting their Gateway in a position beside the extractor.
Gosu depot is when you place a building to make the worker pathing more efficient going into geysers
I doubt it. I think the pathing in sc2 is pretty optimal.
Must be a habit then. Stork's gateway and robo are in positions like it. Even Fantasy's first depots usually go beside the extractor.
btw this is why I think SNM is great caster for Proleague (despite his many weaknesses). There is only a very limited selection of casters who would be like "Stork is this and this and it costed him the game vs Fantasy in the finals of OSL 4 years ago..."
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 3: 1-1 Stork vs Fantasy Map: Neo Arkanoid
0:00 Stork spawns in the top left Fantasy spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for Stork
2:00 gas for Stork CC first for Fantasy at his right natural rax for Fantasy Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 zealot for Stork gas for Fantasy 2nd gas for Stork 2nd rax for Fantasy tech lab for Fantasy zealot killing the creep tumor at the left natural of Stork
4:00 Reaper started for Fantasy 2nd gas for Fantasy Nexus for Stork stalker for Stork zealot killing the other creep tumor for Stork
5:00 stim research started for Fantasy repear is killing the creep tumor at Fantasy's left natural robo for Stork reactor for Fantasy sentry for Stork Factory for Fantasy ebay for Fantasy
6:00 double forge for Stork observer for Stork reaper sees the units of Stork at the rocks but cant go into the base Starport for Fantasy 1-1 started for Stork 2 more gates for Stork
7:00 marauder production started for Fantasy 2 more gas for Stork Fantasy scans the main of Stork and sees 3 gates but only 1 forge Robotics bay for Stork
8:00 3rd CC started for Fantasy 2 observers out for Stork medivac production underway for Fantasy double drop moving out for Fantasy observer scouts the drop moving out
9:00 Stork scouts the 3rd CC of Fantasy Twilight council for Stork Colossus on the way for Stork double drop at the natural of stork but the units are ready the drop has to lift
10:00 1-1 on the way for Fantasy 2-2 started for Stork Extended thermal lance research started for Stork viking production started for Fantasy STork begins breaking down his center rocks 3 more gates for Stork Blink research started for Stork 3 more rax for Fantasy
On January 22 2013 15:58 Ammanas wrote: btw this is why I think SNM is great caster for Proleague (despite his many weaknesses). There is only a very limited selection of casters who would be like "Stork is this and this and it costed him the game vs Fantasy in the finals of OSL 4 years ago..."
Yeah he knows the players and histories having followed BW a while, and he translates all the Korean stuff for us. Very underrated contributions to the cast
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 3: 1-1 Stork vs Fantasy Map: Neo Arkanoid
0:00 Stork spawns in the top left Fantasy spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for Stork
2:00 gas for Stork CC first for Fantasy at his right natural rax for Fantasy Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 zealot for Stork gas for Fantasy 2nd gas for Stork 2nd rax for Fantasy tech lab for Fantasy zealot killing the creep tumor at the left natural of Stork
4:00 Reaper started for Fantasy 2nd gas for Fantasy Nexus for Stork stalker for Stork zealot killing the other creep tumor for Stork
5:00 stim research started for Fantasy repear is killing the creep tumor at Fantasy's left natural robo for Stork reactor for Fantasy sentry for Stork Factory for Fantasy ebay for Fantasy
6:00 double forge for Stork observer for Stork reaper sees the units of Stork at the rocks but cant go into the base Starport for Fantasy 1-1 started for Stork 2 more gates for Stork
7:00 marauder production started for Fantasy 2 more gas for Stork Fantasy scans the main of Stork and sees 3 gates but only 1 forge Robotics bay for Stork
8:00 3rd CC started for Fantasy 2 observers out for Stork medivac production underway for Fantasy double drop moving out for Fantasy observer scouts the drop moving out
9:00 Stork scouts the 3rd CC of Fantasy Twilight council for Stork Colossus on the way for Stork double drop at the natural of stork but the units are ready the drop has to lift
10:00 1-1 on the way for Fantasy 2-2 started for Stork Extended thermal lance research started for Stork viking production started for Fantasy STork begins breaking down his center rocks 3 more gates for Stork Blink research started for Stork 3 more rax for Fantasy
11:00 armory started for Fantasy 2nd starport started for Fantasy Fantasy is breaking his rocks out to the center of the map
12:00 Fantasy breaking down the rocks to Stork's natural 3rd base started for Stork triple viking production for Fantasy 2-2 started for Fantasy +1 ship weapons started for Fantasy Fantasy breaking down the rocks to Stork's 3rd
13:00 2 more gates for Stork 3 more rax for Fantasy charge research started for Stork ghost academy started for Fantasy Fantasy stims and runs into Stork's 3rd area but backs off as the protoss army comes over
14:00 3-3 started for Stork moebius reactor started for Fantasy ghost production started for Fantasy Fantasy looking to attack at Stork's 2nd base Stalkers blink forward to hit vikings but vikings line of sight them with the ledge
15:00 Fantasy backs off from the natural 5th colossus on the way for Stork 3 more gates and templar archives started for Stork 3-3 started for Fantasy vikings try to pick off a colossus but they escape and 1 viking falls
Wow, despite Stork's indecision, his final choice to send the Zealots to Fantasy's main and the rest of his units back to his main ended up being a great idea.
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 3: 1-1 Stork vs Fantasy Map: Neo Arkanoid
0:00 Stork spawns in the top left Fantasy spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for Stork
2:00 gas for Stork CC first for Fantasy at his right natural rax for Fantasy Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 zealot for Stork gas for Fantasy 2nd gas for Stork 2nd rax for Fantasy tech lab for Fantasy zealot killing the creep tumor at the left natural of Stork
4:00 Reaper started for Fantasy 2nd gas for Fantasy Nexus for Stork stalker for Stork zealot killing the other creep tumor for Stork
5:00 stim research started for Fantasy repear is killing the creep tumor at Fantasy's left natural robo for Stork reactor for Fantasy sentry for Stork Factory for Fantasy ebay for Fantasy
6:00 double forge for Stork observer for Stork reaper sees the units of Stork at the rocks but cant go into the base Starport for Fantasy 1-1 started for Stork 2 more gates for Stork
7:00 marauder production started for Fantasy 2 more gas for Stork Fantasy scans the main of Stork and sees 3 gates but only 1 forge Robotics bay for Stork
8:00 3rd CC started for Fantasy 2 observers out for Stork medivac production underway for Fantasy double drop moving out for Fantasy observer scouts the drop moving out
9:00 Stork scouts the 3rd CC of Fantasy Twilight council for Stork Colossus on the way for Stork double drop at the natural of stork but the units are ready the drop has to lift
10:00 1-1 on the way for Fantasy 2-2 started for Stork Extended thermal lance research started for Stork viking production started for Fantasy STork begins breaking down his center rocks 3 more gates for Stork Blink research started for Stork 3 more rax for Fantasy
11:00 armory started for Fantasy 2nd starport started for Fantasy Fantasy is breaking his rocks out to the center of the map
12:00 Fantasy breaking down the rocks to Stork's natural 3rd base started for Stork triple viking production for Fantasy 2-2 started for Fantasy +1 ship weapons started for Fantasy Fantasy breaking down the rocks to Stork's 3rd
13:00 2 more gates for Stork 3 more rax for Fantasy charge research started for Stork ghost academy started for Fantasy Fantasy stims and runs into Stork's 3rd area but backs off as the protoss army comes over
14:00 3-3 started for Stork moebius reactor started for Fantasy ghost production started for Fantasy Fantasy looking to attack at Stork's 2nd base Stalkers blink forward to hit vikings but vikings line of sight them with the ledge
15:00 Fantasy backs off from the natural 5th colossus on the way for Stork 3 more gates and templar archives started for Stork 3-3 started for Fantasy vikings try to pick off a colossus but they escape and 1 viking falls
16:00 Fantasy looking for an angle of attack but Stork keeps repositioning Stork is breaking down the rocks to the center ring +2 ship weapons started for Fantasy 4th CC started for Fantasy Stork is out of position and Fantasy darts into his natural Stork is going for the base race
17:00 Stork decides to turn around cloak research started for Fantasy zealots are sent to Fantasy's base to camp production the main protoss army returns home Stork loses his natural nexus +1 plasma shields started for stork
18:00 Zealots are killing the rax in Fantasy's main attack outside Stork's base Colossi do tons of damage as the vikings fall to stalker and archons Fantasy is losing all of his proudciton Stork is 40 supply ahead
19:00 Fantasy redirects his attack at Stork's other base the remaining vikings take out all of the colossi Stork is killing off the bio with zealot archon Fantasy is losing all his supply depots and is supply blocked now Stork is 60 supply ahead Fantasy loses his main CC Stork attacks into Fantasy's 3rd Fantasy ggs! Stork wins and gives Samsung KHAN the 2-1 lead!
wow Stork has improved a lot lol. I didn't think he'll take out Fantasy since this is his kinda map. Sending the zealots to Fantasy's base to take out his production, workers, etc... then engaging in an open area for his colossi to do optimal damage was great. Go Khan Go!
Even though I am rooting for Khan, my heart always hurts when best terran player in the world loses :-( (and no, I dont care about your MVP/MKP/Flash/whoever nonsense, Fantasy is clearly better then all of them combined!)
On January 22 2013 16:06 Zeon0 wrote: What i learned from that game: you can hesitate in a baserace and still win!
Yeah, at first when I saw Stork turn around mid map, my instincts told me he was going to lose since it seems like that kind of indecision always means death. Splitting off the zealots was really smart though.
On January 22 2013 16:09 KillerDucky wrote: Wow I expected Stork would lose when he hesitated so much, and when he split his army I assumed Fantasy would win the fight. What happened?
I might not be exactly right but I believe it was 3-3 protoss vs 2-2 terran and I dont know if Fantasy focus fired his vikings so the colossi ended up doing a lot of damage since there was 5 of them. Then fantasy had no ability to reinforce while Stork could just throw in more zealots
On January 22 2013 16:09 KillerDucky wrote: Wow I expected Stork would lose when he hesitated so much, and when he split his army I assumed Fantasy would win the fight. What happened?
Fantasy had a hard time engaging Stork at Stork's main since I think the space would've made it a really bad idea for his marines/marauders so he pulled back while zealots tore apart his main.
On January 22 2013 16:09 KillerDucky wrote: Wow I expected Stork would lose when he hesitated so much, and when he split his army I assumed Fantasy would win the fight. What happened?
I might not be exactly right but I believe it was 3-3 protoss vs 2-2 terran and I dont know if Fantasy focus fired his vikings so the colossi ended up doing a lot of damage since there was 5 of them. Then fantasy had no ability to reinforce while Stork could just throw in more zealots
I'm pretty sure it was 3-3 for Stork, also Fantasy as you said let the colossus just kill the majority of his army because he hesitated too much killing em with his vikings
On January 22 2013 16:10 Seeker wrote: WHAT??!?! FANTA LOST TO STORK!?!?!? HOW!?!?!?
He's decided to lose all the time in the past few weeks, It's really disappointing ;/ If he can't beat average players in PL he's not going to fare well in Code A if he hits someone really good.
On January 22 2013 16:07 tuho12345 wrote: If Stephano win MVP this round over Stork or zerO for being foreigner, I'd kill someone lol.
Does Stork even have positive stats after that two wins? Mvp should be Hydra or ZerO
As far as i understood, the rounds MVP is not about stats but about story. Therefore Stephano will probably win. Although I personally would think free also has a chance
On January 22 2013 16:06 Zeon0 wrote: What i learned from that game: you can hesitate in a baserace and still win!
Yeah, at first when I saw Stork turn around mid map, my instincts told me he was going to lose since it seems like that kind of indecision always means death. Splitting off the zealots was really smart though.
Fantasy was at 200/200 and couldn't build units to defend his main. Fantasy went for Stork's second base, while Stork went straight for Fantasy's production facilities. By the time Stork engaged Fantasy's army, most of Fantasy's raxes were dead, so he couldn't build anything to defend even though he already lost some supply. Fantasy was floating twice as much money almost, but didn't have any raxes to build units.
In a base race, always go for production, not mining.
On January 22 2013 16:10 Seeker wrote: WHAT??!?! FANTA LOST TO STORK!?!?!? HOW!?!?!?
He's decided to lose all the time in the past few weeks, It's really disappointing ;/ If he can't beat average players in PL he's not going to fare well in Code A if he hits someone really good.
With Stork, Jangbi, and Roro turning things around, if Reality can get back to his early potential, Khan could actually be one of the best teams as honestly I kind of thought they would be originally.
By the way, does anyone want to make the KT Rolster vs CJ Entus thread for the second match today? I'll probably be live reporting the GSL games at the same time so I don't really want to be responsible for that thread when i might be a little slow updating OP is premade right here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339146¤tpage=15#289
5 banshees at home (15food) would do wonders there as base defense
terran at 200food can sacrifice 15 scv's for defense (orbitals)
5 banshees pretty much 1shot a zealot. after 20shots thats like 15 dead zealots
also you normally get air upgrades for vikings and later on BC's are not weak lategame in 5base scenarios
protoss normally has some cannons and few units at home for defense too. so a terran spending 750/500 for defense isnt that bad if you get 200food as terran, have some banshees for zealot defense at home they aint that bad at all since tosses only real good harass unit is zealots. if the protoss has pheonix to counter your banshees then meh get sensor towers and use vikings whatever blah but normally that will never happen and it will only be zealots harassing you like that
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 4: 2-1 Stork vs s2 Map: Neo CalDeum
0:00 Stork spawns in the top right s2 spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Stork 14 pool for s2
2:00 gas for Stork Hatch for s2 Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 zealot for Stork gas for s2 stalker for Stork lings find the hidden probe of Stork on the map and chase it away
4:00 zealot hides in the tall grass and kills the ling chasing the probe Nexus started for Stork sentry for Stork zealot of Stork gets caught on the map by lings and the zealot and probe die ling speed started for s2 spine started for s2 in the natural
5:00 2nd gas for Stork zergling scout is denied from seeing the rest of the main but sees the natural nexus forge for Stork 2nd gate for Stork to wall off his natural choke Stargate for STork
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 4: 2-1 Stork vs s2 Map: Neo CalDeum
0:00 Stork spawns in the top right s2 spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Stork 14 pool for s2
2:00 gas for Stork Hatch for s2 Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 zealot for Stork gas for s2 stalker for Stork lings find the hidden probe of Stork on the map and chase it away
4:00 zealot hides in the tall grass and kills the ling chasing the probe Nexus started for Stork sentry for Stork zealot of Stork gets caught on the map by lings and the zealot and probe die ling speed started for s2 spine started for s2 in the natural
5:00 2nd gas for Stork zergling scout is denied from seeing the rest of the main but sees the natural nexus forge for Stork 2nd gate for Stork to wall off his natural choke Stargate for Stork
6:00 3rd base started for s2 another gas for s2 phoenix production started for stork 2 more gas for Stork roach warren for s2 evo chamber for s2
7:00 Lair started for s2 another gas for s2 Stork is hiding his phoenixes until he gets a couple +1 attack started for Stork
8:00 1 spore started for s2 just to be safe lings start breaking down the rocks to Stork's natural robo for Stork Stork moves out as his 4th phoenix finishes +1 range attack started for s2
9:00 spores going up in the mineral lines of s2 s2 loses all of his lings killing the rocks to Stork's natural Hydralisk den started for s2 Phoenixes kill off 1 queen and escape 2 more gates for Stork sporecrawler kills 1 of the phoenixes
10:00 Robotics bay and Twilight council for Stork Warp prism started for Stork Hydralisk production and Hydra range started for s2 2 more gates for Stork Roach speed started for s2 +2 attack started for Stork
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 4: 2-1 Stork vs s2 Map: Neo CalDeum
0:00 Stork spawns in the top right s2 spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Stork 14 pool for s2
2:00 gas for Stork Hatch for s2 Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 zealot for Stork gas for s2 stalker for Stork lings find the hidden probe of Stork on the map and chase it away
4:00 zealot hides in the tall grass and kills the ling chasing the probe Nexus started for Stork sentry for Stork zealot of Stork gets caught on the map by lings and the zealot and probe die ling speed started for s2 spine started for s2 in the natural
5:00 2nd gas for Stork zergling scout is denied from seeing the rest of the main but sees the natural nexus forge for Stork 2nd gate for Stork to wall off his natural choke Stargate for Stork
6:00 3rd base started for s2 another gas for s2 phoenix production started for stork 2 more gas for Stork roach warren for s2 evo chamber for s2
7:00 Lair started for s2 another gas for s2 Stork is hiding his phoenixes until he gets a couple +1 attack started for Stork
8:00 1 spore started for s2 just to be safe lings start breaking down the rocks to Stork's natural robo for Stork Stork moves out as his 4th phoenix finishes +1 range attack started for s2
9:00 spores going up in the mineral lines of s2 s2 loses all of his lings killing the rocks to Stork's natural Hydralisk den started for s2 Phoenixes kill off 1 queen and escape 2 more gates for Stork sporecrawler kills 1 of the phoenixes
10:00 Robotics bay and Twilight council for Stork Warp prism started for Stork Hydralisk production and Hydra range started for s2 2 more gates for Stork Roach speed started for s2 +2 attack started for Stork
11:00 warp prism of Stork is canceled Extended thermal lance research and colossus production begins bad supply block for s2 and he's banking over 1000 minerals +2 range attack started for s2 2 more gates for Stork
12:00 spire started for s2 4th base started for s2 3rd base for Stork is denied from building by lings Blink research started for Stork
13:00 stork scouts the 4th of s2 building 3rd base started for Stork Corruptor production started for s2
14:00 Stork is pushing across the map to the back rocks of s2's natural s2 has all his units near his 4th zealot runby at the 4th of s2 as his army moves away Stork backs off from the natural 4th base of s2 is killed +1 carapace started for s2
15:00 s2 is maxed on roach hydra corruptor s2 looking to attack into Stork's 3rd Stalkers blink away from the zerg army and 1 colossus falls the colossi do massive damage to the small zerg ground army though and stalkers blink forward and kill the corruptors
On January 22 2013 16:16 bankobauss wrote: 5 banshees at home (15food) would do wonders there as base defense
terran at 200food can sacrifice 15 scv's for defense (orbitals)
5 banshees pretty much 1shot a zealot. after 20shots thats like 15 dead zealots
also you normally get air upgrades for vikings and later on BC's are not weak lategame in 5base scenarios
protoss normally has some cannons and few units at home for defense too. so a terran spending 750/500 for defense isnt that bad if you get 200food as terran, have some banshees for zealot defense at home they aint that bad at all since tosses only real good harass unit is zealots. if the protoss has pheonix to counter your banshees then meh get sensor towers and use vikings whatever blah but normally that will never happen and it will only be zealots harassing you like that
lol pretty sure there's no way fantasy had the resources (and production) to have that sitting at home...
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 4: 2-1 Stork vs s2 Map: Neo CalDeum
0:00 Stork spawns in the top right s2 spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Stork 14 pool for s2
2:00 gas for Stork Hatch for s2 Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 zealot for Stork gas for s2 stalker for Stork lings find the hidden probe of Stork on the map and chase it away
4:00 zealot hides in the tall grass and kills the ling chasing the probe Nexus started for Stork sentry for Stork zealot of Stork gets caught on the map by lings and the zealot and probe die ling speed started for s2 spine started for s2 in the natural
5:00 2nd gas for Stork zergling scout is denied from seeing the rest of the main but sees the natural nexus forge for Stork 2nd gate for Stork to wall off his natural choke Stargate for Stork
6:00 3rd base started for s2 another gas for s2 phoenix production started for stork 2 more gas for Stork roach warren for s2 evo chamber for s2
7:00 Lair started for s2 another gas for s2 Stork is hiding his phoenixes until he gets a couple +1 attack started for Stork
8:00 1 spore started for s2 just to be safe lings start breaking down the rocks to Stork's natural robo for Stork Stork moves out as his 4th phoenix finishes +1 range attack started for s2
9:00 spores going up in the mineral lines of s2 s2 loses all of his lings killing the rocks to Stork's natural Hydralisk den started for s2 Phoenixes kill off 1 queen and escape 2 more gates for Stork sporecrawler kills 1 of the phoenixes
10:00 Robotics bay and Twilight council for Stork Warp prism started for Stork Hydralisk production and Hydra range started for s2 2 more gates for Stork Roach speed started for s2 +2 attack started for Stork
11:00 warp prism of Stork is canceled Extended thermal lance research and colossus production begins bad supply block for s2 and he's banking over 1000 minerals +2 range attack started for s2 2 more gates for Stork
12:00 spire started for s2 4th base started for s2 3rd base for Stork is denied from building by lings Blink research started for Stork
13:00 stork scouts the 4th of s2 building 3rd base started for Stork Corruptor production started for s2
14:00 Stork is pushing across the map to the back rocks of s2's natural s2 has all his units near his 4th zealot runby at the 4th of s2 as his army moves away Stork backs off from the natural 4th base of s2 is killed +1 carapace started for s2
15:00 s2 is maxed on roach hydra corruptor s2 looking to attack into Stork's 3rd Stalkers blink away from the zerg army and 1 colossus falls the colossi do massive damage to the small zerg ground army though and stalkers blink forward and kill the corruptors
16:00 s2 loses a majority of his corruptors Stork is moving across the map on even supply now 8 more corruptors coming out for s2 +3 attack started for Stork
17:00 Stork attacking in the backdoor of the zerg natural s2 is completely out of position natural hatchery of s2 is killed the zerg army comes in to engage the colossi are too close and die to roaches Stork is trying to blink micro against the zerg army but s2 takes a 40 supply lead
18:00 Stork retreats with his remaining army 4th base is finished again for s2 macro hatch started for s2 2nd robo started for Stork
19:00 infestation pit started for s2 s2 moves his army to finish off the back rocks at Stork's natural the zerg army pokes into the natural but Stork chases him back
20:00 +1 armor started for Stork Hive started for s2 pathogen glands started for s2 infestor production started for s2
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 4: 2-1 Stork vs s2 Map: Neo CalDeum
0:00 Stork spawns in the top right s2 spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Stork 14 pool for s2
2:00 gas for Stork Hatch for s2 Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 zealot for Stork gas for s2 stalker for Stork lings find the hidden probe of Stork on the map and chase it away
4:00 zealot hides in the tall grass and kills the ling chasing the probe Nexus started for Stork sentry for Stork zealot of Stork gets caught on the map by lings and the zealot and probe die ling speed started for s2 spine started for s2 in the natural
5:00 2nd gas for Stork zergling scout is denied from seeing the rest of the main but sees the natural nexus forge for Stork 2nd gate for Stork to wall off his natural choke Stargate for Stork
6:00 3rd base started for s2 another gas for s2 phoenix production started for stork 2 more gas for Stork roach warren for s2 evo chamber for s2
7:00 Lair started for s2 another gas for s2 Stork is hiding his phoenixes until he gets a couple +1 attack started for Stork
8:00 1 spore started for s2 just to be safe lings start breaking down the rocks to Stork's natural robo for Stork Stork moves out as his 4th phoenix finishes +1 range attack started for s2
9:00 spores going up in the mineral lines of s2 s2 loses all of his lings killing the rocks to Stork's natural Hydralisk den started for s2 Phoenixes kill off 1 queen and escape 2 more gates for Stork sporecrawler kills 1 of the phoenixes
10:00 Robotics bay and Twilight council for Stork Warp prism started for Stork Hydralisk production and Hydra range started for s2 2 more gates for Stork Roach speed started for s2 +2 attack started for Stork
11:00 warp prism of Stork is canceled Extended thermal lance research and colossus production begins bad supply block for s2 and he's banking over 1000 minerals +2 range attack started for s2 2 more gates for Stork
12:00 spire started for s2 4th base started for s2 3rd base for Stork is denied from building by lings Blink research started for Stork
13:00 stork scouts the 4th of s2 building 3rd base started for Stork Corruptor production started for s2
14:00 Stork is pushing across the map to the back rocks of s2's natural s2 has all his units near his 4th zealot runby at the 4th of s2 as his army moves away Stork backs off from the natural 4th base of s2 is killed +1 carapace started for s2
15:00 s2 is maxed on roach hydra corruptor s2 looking to attack into Stork's 3rd Stalkers blink away from the zerg army and 1 colossus falls the colossi do massive damage to the small zerg ground army though and stalkers blink forward and kill the corruptors
16:00 s2 loses a majority of his corruptors Stork is moving across the map on even supply now 8 more corruptors coming out for s2 +3 attack started for Stork
17:00 Stork attacking in the backdoor of the zerg natural s2 is completely out of position natural hatchery of s2 is killed the zerg army comes in to engage the colossi are too close and die to roaches Stork is trying to blink micro against the zerg army but s2 takes a 40 supply lead
18:00 Stork retreats with his remaining army 4th base is finished again for s2 macro hatch started for s2 2nd robo started for Stork
19:00 infestation pit started for s2 s2 moves his army to finish off the back rocks at Stork's natural the zerg army pokes into the natural but Stork chases him back
20:00 +1 armor started for Stork Hive started for s2 pathogen glands started for s2 infestor production started for s2
21:00 warp prism started for Stork spines going up for s2 s2 is maxed vs 190 supply of Stork more spines for s2 to free up supply for brood lords
22:00 Stork pushing out with 5 colossi +2 armor started for Stork s2 sets up an arc and attacks into Stork forcefields try to block out the ground units Corruptors are taking out the colossi but the ground army of the zerg is being cleaned up stalkers blink forward and kill almost all of the corruptors
23:00 14 roaches and 18 hydras on the way for s2 4th base started for Stork adrenal glands started for s2 more corruptors and infestors coming out for s2 2nd evo chamber for s2 zealot runby at the 4th of s2 but his army is in position to defend
24:00 Greater spire started for s2 8 more corruptors come out for s2 double colossus production for Stork
25:00 more spines going up for s2 +1 melee started for s2 4 colossi out for Stork now +1 plasma shields started for Stork even more spines going up for s2 Brood lords being morphing for s2
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 4: 2-1 Stork vs s2 Map: Neo CalDeum
0:00 Stork spawns in the top right s2 spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Stork 14 pool for s2
2:00 gas for Stork Hatch for s2 Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 zealot for Stork gas for s2 stalker for Stork lings find the hidden probe of Stork on the map and chase it away
4:00 zealot hides in the tall grass and kills the ling chasing the probe Nexus started for Stork sentry for Stork zealot of Stork gets caught on the map by lings and the zealot and probe die ling speed started for s2 spine started for s2 in the natural
5:00 2nd gas for Stork zergling scout is denied from seeing the rest of the main but sees the natural nexus forge for Stork 2nd gate for Stork to wall off his natural choke Stargate for Stork
6:00 3rd base started for s2 another gas for s2 phoenix production started for stork 2 more gas for Stork roach warren for s2 evo chamber for s2
7:00 Lair started for s2 another gas for s2 Stork is hiding his phoenixes until he gets a couple +1 attack started for Stork
8:00 1 spore started for s2 just to be safe lings start breaking down the rocks to Stork's natural robo for Stork Stork moves out as his 4th phoenix finishes +1 range attack started for s2
9:00 spores going up in the mineral lines of s2 s2 loses all of his lings killing the rocks to Stork's natural Hydralisk den started for s2 Phoenixes kill off 1 queen and escape 2 more gates for Stork sporecrawler kills 1 of the phoenixes
10:00 Robotics bay and Twilight council for Stork Warp prism started for Stork Hydralisk production and Hydra range started for s2 2 more gates for Stork Roach speed started for s2 +2 attack started for Stork
11:00 warp prism of Stork is canceled Extended thermal lance research and colossus production begins bad supply block for s2 and he's banking over 1000 minerals +2 range attack started for s2 2 more gates for Stork
12:00 spire started for s2 4th base started for s2 3rd base for Stork is denied from building by lings Blink research started for Stork
13:00 stork scouts the 4th of s2 building 3rd base started for Stork Corruptor production started for s2
14:00 Stork is pushing across the map to the back rocks of s2's natural s2 has all his units near his 4th zealot runby at the 4th of s2 as his army moves away Stork backs off from the natural 4th base of s2 is killed +1 carapace started for s2
15:00 s2 is maxed on roach hydra corruptor s2 looking to attack into Stork's 3rd Stalkers blink away from the zerg army and 1 colossus falls the colossi do massive damage to the small zerg ground army though and stalkers blink forward and kill the corruptors
16:00 s2 loses a majority of his corruptors Stork is moving across the map on even supply now 8 more corruptors coming out for s2 +3 attack started for Stork
17:00 Stork attacking in the backdoor of the zerg natural s2 is completely out of position natural hatchery of s2 is killed the zerg army comes in to engage the colossi are too close and die to roaches Stork is trying to blink micro against the zerg army but s2 takes a 40 supply lead
18:00 Stork retreats with his remaining army 4th base is finished again for s2 macro hatch started for s2 2nd robo started for Stork
19:00 infestation pit started for s2 s2 moves his army to finish off the back rocks at Stork's natural the zerg army pokes into the natural but Stork chases him back
20:00 +1 armor started for Stork Hive started for s2 pathogen glands started for s2 infestor production started for s2
21:00 warp prism started for Stork spines going up for s2 s2 is maxed vs 190 supply of Stork more spines for s2 to free up supply for brood lords
22:00 Stork pushing out with 5 colossi +2 armor started for Stork s2 sets up an arc and attacks into Stork forcefields try to block out the ground units Corruptors are taking out the colossi but the ground army of the zerg is being cleaned up stalkers blink forward and kill almost all of the corruptors
23:00 14 roaches and 18 hydras on the way for s2 4th base started for Stork adrenal glands started for s2 more corruptors and infestors coming out for s2 2nd evo chamber for s2 zealot runby at the 4th of s2 but his army is in position to defend
24:00 Greater spire started for s2 8 more corruptors come out for s2 double colossus production for Stork
25:00 more spines going up for s2 +1 melee started for s2 4 colossi out for Stork now +1 plasma shields started for Stork even more spines going up for s2 Brood lords being morphing for s2
26:00 9 brood lords on the way for s2 Stork moving back and forth between his 3rd and 4th
27:00 +1 air carapace started for s2 Stork pushing towards the 4th of s2 s2 pushing towards the 4th of Stork Stork turns around to defend but Brood lords start killing off his stalkers Roaches and hydras kill the 4th of Stork
28:00 Stalkers are split from the main army to attack the 4th of s2 the colossus portion of the army is pushing into the back door of the natural of s2 with some stalker and sentry support Brood lords chase the stalkers away from s2's 4th Stork kills the natural hatch of s2 as the brood lords move the stalkers come back into s2's 4th
29:00 Stork retreats from the natural before broods can get there 4th of Stork is being rebuilt Templar archives started for Stork more infestors coming out for s2
30:00 stalkers come back into the 4th of s2 and start harassing the mineral line from the high ground another group of stalkers try to blink under the brood lords spines and fungals + broods kill a lot of Stork's stalkers both players are in the 120s for supply archons morphing in for stork all 6 colossi are still alive 10 broods are out for s2 with 10 infestors
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 4: 2-1 Stork vs s2 Map: Neo CalDeum
0:00 Stork spawns in the top right s2 spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Stork 14 pool for s2
2:00 gas for Stork Hatch for s2 Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 zealot for Stork gas for s2 stalker for Stork lings find the hidden probe of Stork on the map and chase it away
4:00 zealot hides in the tall grass and kills the ling chasing the probe Nexus started for Stork sentry for Stork zealot of Stork gets caught on the map by lings and the zealot and probe die ling speed started for s2 spine started for s2 in the natural
5:00 2nd gas for Stork zergling scout is denied from seeing the rest of the main but sees the natural nexus forge for Stork 2nd gate for Stork to wall off his natural choke Stargate for Stork
6:00 3rd base started for s2 another gas for s2 phoenix production started for stork 2 more gas for Stork roach warren for s2 evo chamber for s2
7:00 Lair started for s2 another gas for s2 Stork is hiding his phoenixes until he gets a couple +1 attack started for Stork
8:00 1 spore started for s2 just to be safe lings start breaking down the rocks to Stork's natural robo for Stork Stork moves out as his 4th phoenix finishes +1 range attack started for s2
9:00 spores going up in the mineral lines of s2 s2 loses all of his lings killing the rocks to Stork's natural Hydralisk den started for s2 Phoenixes kill off 1 queen and escape 2 more gates for Stork sporecrawler kills 1 of the phoenixes
10:00 Robotics bay and Twilight council for Stork Warp prism started for Stork Hydralisk production and Hydra range started for s2 2 more gates for Stork Roach speed started for s2 +2 attack started for Stork
11:00 warp prism of Stork is canceled Extended thermal lance research and colossus production begins bad supply block for s2 and he's banking over 1000 minerals +2 range attack started for s2 2 more gates for Stork
12:00 spire started for s2 4th base started for s2 3rd base for Stork is denied from building by lings Blink research started for Stork
13:00 stork scouts the 4th of s2 building 3rd base started for Stork Corruptor production started for s2
14:00 Stork is pushing across the map to the back rocks of s2's natural s2 has all his units near his 4th zealot runby at the 4th of s2 as his army moves away Stork backs off from the natural 4th base of s2 is killed +1 carapace started for s2
15:00 s2 is maxed on roach hydra corruptor s2 looking to attack into Stork's 3rd Stalkers blink away from the zerg army and 1 colossus falls the colossi do massive damage to the small zerg ground army though and stalkers blink forward and kill the corruptors
16:00 s2 loses a majority of his corruptors Stork is moving across the map on even supply now 8 more corruptors coming out for s2 +3 attack started for Stork
17:00 Stork attacking in the backdoor of the zerg natural s2 is completely out of position natural hatchery of s2 is killed the zerg army comes in to engage the colossi are too close and die to roaches Stork is trying to blink micro against the zerg army but s2 takes a 40 supply lead
18:00 Stork retreats with his remaining army 4th base is finished again for s2 macro hatch started for s2 2nd robo started for Stork
19:00 infestation pit started for s2 s2 moves his army to finish off the back rocks at Stork's natural the zerg army pokes into the natural but Stork chases him back
20:00 +1 armor started for Stork Hive started for s2 pathogen glands started for s2 infestor production started for s2
21:00 warp prism started for Stork spines going up for s2 s2 is maxed vs 190 supply of Stork more spines for s2 to free up supply for brood lords
22:00 Stork pushing out with 5 colossi +2 armor started for Stork s2 sets up an arc and attacks into Stork forcefields try to block out the ground units Corruptors are taking out the colossi but the ground army of the zerg is being cleaned up stalkers blink forward and kill almost all of the corruptors
23:00 14 roaches and 18 hydras on the way for s2 4th base started for Stork adrenal glands started for s2 more corruptors and infestors coming out for s2 2nd evo chamber for s2 zealot runby at the 4th of s2 but his army is in position to defend
24:00 Greater spire started for s2 8 more corruptors come out for s2 double colossus production for Stork
25:00 more spines going up for s2 +1 melee started for s2 4 colossi out for Stork now +1 plasma shields started for Stork even more spines going up for s2 Brood lords being morphing for s2
26:00 9 brood lords on the way for s2 Stork moving back and forth between his 3rd and 4th
27:00 +1 air carapace started for s2 Stork pushing towards the 4th of s2 s2 pushing towards the 4th of Stork Stork turns around to defend but Brood lords start killing off his stalkers Roaches and hydras kill the 4th of Stork
28:00 Stalkers are split from the main army to attack the 4th of s2 the colossus portion of the army is pushing into the back door of the natural of s2 with some stalker and sentry support Brood lords chase the stalkers away from s2's 4th Stork kills the natural hatch of s2 as the brood lords move the stalkers come back into s2's 4th
29:00 Stork retreats from the natural before broods can get there 4th of Stork is being rebuilt Templar archives started for Stork more infestors coming out for s2
30:00 stalkers come back into the 4th of s2 and start harassing the mineral line from the high ground another group of stalkers try to blink under the brood lords spines and fungals + broods kill a lot of Stork's stalkers both players are in the 120s for supply archons morphing in for stork all 6 colossi are still alive 10 broods are out for s2 with 10 infestors
31:00 5th base started at the gold for Stork the brood move forward to deny the 5th of Stork stalkers try to blink forward and kill the broods archons and colossi are taking out a lot of the infestors
32:00 s2 is out of energy stalkers blink forward again and kill off more brood lords Stork is now 80 supply ahead the last of the brood lords are killed by stalkers Stork is pushing into the 3rd of s2 Stork is 100 supply ahead none of the infestors have energy s2 loses all of his infestors s2 ggs! Stork earns his 3rd win and puts Samsung KHAN up 3-1!
holy shit stork. what the hell was that!? sick multipronged play, watching those brood lords wiggle up and down the map uselessly made me so happy :D my hero is returning :D
holy crap woulda easily won if he just split his army into 2 equal groups (half broodlords, half infestors, half queens, half roaches in each army) and one side attacked the north path and 1 side attacked the south path, then mass 200food of roaches to beat whatever army is left after it engages 1 of your split armies
Stork actually didn't play very well in either of his PvZ's, not sure what games you guys are watching. Huge throws by Sacsri and s2. s2 even had to throw multiple times before he lost this one.
On January 22 2013 16:43 HolyArrow wrote: LOL Shellshock you're the one with the 3-kill/all-kill OP-maker curse, right?
yeah pretty much every game is all kill or 3 kill. last night was 2 3 kills wtf. They told me it was impossible for an all kill to come out of this match
On January 22 2013 16:45 Cel.erity wrote: Stork actually didn't play very well in either of his PvZ's, not sure what games you guys are watching. Huge throws by Sacsri and s2. s2 even had to throw multiple times before he lost this one.
That's why It's so frustrating to watch for me as a SKT fan, they are getting all killed by someone who isn't even playing that well. I guess that just makes SKT terrible.
He once showed up at a PL match and was cheering Stork on like that, chanting "SONG BYUNG GOO" (stork's korean name) over and over again, and the camera cut to him several times (that's what the gif is from). So awesome! >:D
On January 22 2013 16:31 Zerg.Zilla wrote: soO...what a terrible player...
This is S2, not soo D:
I know this was s2...but i was talking about soO,thats why they didn't choose him because he's terrible,come to think of it s2 is terrible to xD.
also probably didnt send him because he played this map ZvP in the ace match against Jaehoon and looked really bad. The only zerg that had lost on the map vs Protoss before soo was Shine when he was 0-6 in the season
On January 22 2013 16:45 Bagration wrote: Damn SKT is really slumping hard collectively.
I keep telling myself they have 4 more rounds to pull themselves back into shape but it's not that comforting. On the other hand it is amusing to see Khan decide to say ' fuck this' to being in last place and stork ruining people's anti teams.
On January 22 2013 16:54 Thinasy wrote: If Rain gets 3 kills now i'm gonna go cry
pretty much this.
btw can anyone explain why people would get someone like Stork on their anti, when there was JD who didnt play first two weeks and then Taeja who wont be playing the other two weeks?
On January 22 2013 16:54 Thinasy wrote: If Rain gets 3 kills now i'm gonna go cry
pretty much this.
btw can anyone explain why people would get someone like Stork on their anti, when there was JD who didnt play first two weeks and then Taeja who wont be playing the other two weeks?
well we didn't really know about taeja deadwrists at the beginning, and jaedong was only slated to miss out one day iirc
On January 22 2013 16:54 Thinasy wrote: If Rain gets 3 kills now i'm gonna go cry
pretty much this.
btw can anyone explain why people would get someone like Stork on their anti, when there was JD who didnt play first two weeks and then Taeja who wont be playing the other two weeks?
well we didn't really know about taeja deadwrists at the beginning, and jaedong was only slated to miss out one day iirc
I missed the taeja antiteam news wish I'd traded in time ;__;
ruh roh, if story goes immortal heavy, rain's stargate play could mess him up :<
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 5: 3-1 Stork vs Rain Map: Entombed Valley
0:00 Stork spawns in the top left Rain spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for Stork gateway first for Rain gas for Stork
2:00 gas for Rain 2nd gas for Stork Cybernetics core for Rain Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 2nd gas for Rain zealot for Stork zealot for Rain sentry for Stork sentry for Rain
4:00 Robo for Stork 2nd sentry for Stork zealot for Rain Stargate for Rain 2 more gates for Rain
5:00 forward pylon from Rain in the 3rd base area of Stork immortal production started for Stork phoenix production started for Rain Robotics bay for Stork
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 5: 3-1 Stork vs Rain Map: Entombed Valley
0:00 Stork spawns in the top left Rain spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for Stork gateway first for Rain gas for Stork
2:00 gas for Rain 2nd gas for Stork Cybernetics core for Rain Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 2nd gas for Rain zealot for Stork zealot for Rain sentry for Stork sentry for Rain
4:00 Robo for Stork 2nd sentry for Stork zealot for Rain Stargate for Rain 2 more gates for Rain
5:00 forward pylon from Rain in the 3rd base area of Stork immortal production started for Stork phoenix production started for Rain Robotics bay for Stork
6:00 2nd immortal started for Stork 2 gates for Stork Rain moving across the map as 3 phoenixes finish
7:00 Colossus production started for Stork phoenixes are revealed phoenixes start lifting sentries and killing them Stork has no anti air left robo for Rain
8:00 stalkers chase the phoenixes away but Stork only has 1 sentry left phoenixes fly in and take some shields off the colossus immortal production started for Rain Twilight council started for Stork
9:00 nexus started for Rain Nexus started for Stork Blink research started for Stork Robotics bay for Rain
10:00 observer for Rain phoenixes dart back into the main and kill off a few more probes (9 killed now) Rain is ahead by 5 probes and his natural nexus is already finished observer for Stork
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 5: 3-1 Stork vs Rain Map: Entombed Valley
0:00 Stork spawns in the top left Rain spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for Stork gateway first for Rain gas for Stork
2:00 gas for Rain 2nd gas for Stork Cybernetics core for Rain Cybernetics core for Stork
3:00 2nd gas for Rain zealot for Stork zealot for Rain sentry for Stork sentry for Rain
4:00 Robo for Stork 2nd sentry for Stork zealot for Rain Stargate for Rain 2 more gates for Rain
5:00 forward pylon from Rain in the 3rd base area of Stork immortal production started for Stork phoenix production started for Rain Robotics bay for Stork
6:00 2nd immortal started for Stork 2 gates for Stork Rain moving across the map as 3 phoenixes finish
7:00 Colossus production started for Stork phoenixes are revealed phoenixes start lifting sentries and killing them Stork has no anti air left robo for Rain
8:00 stalkers chase the phoenixes away but Stork only has 1 sentry left phoenixes fly in and take some shields off the colossus immortal production started for Rain Twilight council started for Stork
9:00 nexus started for Rain Nexus started for Stork Blink research started for Stork Robotics bay for Rain
10:00 observer for Rain phoenixes dart back into the main and kill off a few more probes (9 killed now) Rain is ahead by 5 probes and his natural nexus is already finished observer for Stork
11:00 Colossus production started for Rain 2 more gates for Rain Stork kills the observer of Rain stalkers pick off 2 phoenix
12:00 2nd colossus started for Rain Rain is moving across the map with his army Colossus production restarted for Stork Stork sets up a defensive position in his natural
13:00 forward pylon started for Rain phoenixes are harassing the main mineral line again killing a bunch more probes the phoenixes are picked off but the stalkers are way over in Stork's 3rd Rain attacks into the natural and forcefields the main ramp of Stork Rain gets a better concave 2nd colossus comes out for Stork 2nd colossus arrives for Rain
14:00 stalkers flank and blink on the colossi of Rain Rain loses both colossi but 1 immortal is still alive probes in the natural are pulled to defend Stork has lost 27 probes the colossus of Stork falls Rain is 27 supply ahead Rain is unable to push into the main for now
15:00 Rain starts to retreat to his pylon and stalkers blink after him Rain goes in for another attack in the natural with his reinforcements another immortal arrives for Rain and kills 3 stalkers before it dies Rain starts attacking the natural nexus of Stork Rain kills all the probes in the natural
16:00 Colossus on the way for Rain Stork ggs as rain pushes into his main! Rain ends Stork's kill streak and brings the score back to 2-3!
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 6: 3-2 JangBi vs Rain Map: Ohana
0:00 JangBi spawns in the bottom right Rain spawns in the top left
1:40 gateway for Rain gateway for JangBi
2:00 gas for JangBi gas for Rain JangBi scouting for proxy gates Cybernetics core for Rain Cybernetics core for JangBi
3:00 2nd gas for Jangbi 2nd gas for Rain zealot for Rain 2nd gateway for Jangbi sentry for Rain stalker for Jangbi
4:00 zealot for Rain Robo for Rain 2 more stalkers for Jangbi chrono on both stalkers by Jangbi 2nd gate for Rain Stargate for Jangbi
5:00 3rd gate for Jangbi stalker kills the probe of Rain on the map observer for Rain Stalkers of Jangbi poking into the natural of Rain to scout
6:00 immortal production started for Rain phoenix production started for Jangbi Nexus started for Rain another observer for Rain another gateway for Rain
7:00 observer of Rain sees no nexus from Jangbi yet 2nd immortal for Rain observer flies into the main of Jangbi and sees the phoenixes 4th phoenix on the way forward pylon going down for Jangbi
8:00 2nd immortal is now out for Rain phoenixes are now moving across the map to meet up with Jangbi's stalkers phoenixes fly in and start picking off the sentries all the sentries are killed immortals are lifted stalkers of Jangbi come in and kill the immortals right away probes at the natural are pulled to defend the phoenixes are falling
9:00 Rain manages to hold and is 20 supply ahead Rain moving out to counterattack Rain is still ahead in probe count and saved his natural nexus Rain is pushing into the natural of Jangbi and fighting his stalkers Jangbi is pushed back into his main but has no sentries to forcefield Rain pushes into the main of Jangbi
10:00 Jangbi is losing the rest of his stalkers Rain is dancing his units in the main of Jangbi Jangbi ggs! Rain ties the score up at 3 and sends it to the final match!
On January 22 2013 17:25 Cel.erity wrote: Seems like this build just doesn't work?
This build is usually done with mostly zealots because immortals. If they go down, reinforce with stalkers. Jangbi would have had this if he hadn't gone pure stalkers
On January 22 2013 17:25 Prugelhugel wrote: Awesome executed attack by Jangbi, but Rain holding it since he has one single advantage - He is goddamn motherf*cking Rain!
Actually he holded it because JangBi didnt have any zealots... (as correctly predicted by SNM, may I add ^^)
On January 22 2013 17:27 lichter wrote: Wonky build. Stargate and 4 phoenix to kill 3 sentries? Sounds like a good idea but JangBi had such a tiny stalker count and no zealots
You also lift up immortals, so it's a bit more than that.
On January 22 2013 17:27 lichter wrote: Wonky build. Stargate and 4 phoenix to kill 3 sentries? Sounds like a good idea but JangBi had such a tiny stalker count and no zealots
You also lift up immortals, so it's a bit more than that.
Yes, but JangBi went right in the face of zealots just to snipe them and got stuck because of it.
On January 22 2013 17:27 lichter wrote: Wonky build. Stargate and 4 phoenix to kill 3 sentries? Sounds like a good idea but JangBi had such a tiny stalker count and no zealots
You also lift up immortals, so it's a bit more than that.
Yes, but JangBi went right in the face of zealots just to snipe them and got stuck because of it.
Yeah it was pretty bad execution... sadly. The plan was good, he took full advantage of Rain being the most predictable PvPer.
why would anyone want rain to win here? Khan is by far the underdog, if they won it would be an epic tale and much more epic interview (Ignore my team banner :D) :D
On January 22 2013 17:35 Confuse wrote: why would anyone want rain to win here? Khan is by far the underdog, if they won it would be an epic tale and much more epic interview (Ignore my team banner :D) :D
Are they? Khan is 3-2 in this round while SKT is 1-4.
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 7: 3-3 RorO vs Rain Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 RorO spawns in the bottom left Rain spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for RorO Nexus for Rain forge for Rain
3:00 Hatch for RorO gateway for Rain cannon for Rain double gas for Rain
4:00 3rd base for RorO Cybernetics core for Rain
5:00 stargate for Rain
6:00 double gas for RorO 2 more gas for Rain Phoenix production started for Rain
7:00 +1 attack started for Rain lair started for RorO roach warren started for RorO evo chamber for RorO 3 mroe gates for Rain 2 more gas for RorO phoenixes are killing off overlords near Rain's base ling speed started for RorO
8:00 +1 range attack started for RorO Twilight council started for Rain Robo started for Rain spores going up in the mineral lines of RorO's bases Macro hatch for RorO Roach speed for RorO
9:00 2 more gas for RorO 3rd base started for Rain Infestation pit started for RorO +2 attack started for Rain Blink research started for Rain 4th base started for RorO Robotics bay for Rain Roro sending some lings and roaches across the map
10:00 cannons building at Rain's 3rd 2nd evo chamber for RorO pathogen glands started for RorO Roaches breaking down the rocks at Rain's natural ramp Stalkers chase the roaches away
I don't actually like that sim city... It'll horribly work against him if Roro attacks the third with anything that's not lings. And it'll even keep him from going to the 4th to defend it.
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 7: 3-3 RorO vs Rain Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 RorO spawns in the bottom left Rain spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for RorO Nexus for Rain forge for Rain
3:00 Hatch for RorO gateway for Rain cannon for Rain double gas for Rain
4:00 3rd base for RorO Cybernetics core for Rain
5:00 stargate for Rain
6:00 double gas for RorO 2 more gas for Rain Phoenix production started for Rain
7:00 +1 attack started for Rain lair started for RorO roach warren started for RorO evo chamber for RorO 3 mroe gates for Rain 2 more gas for RorO phoenixes are killing off overlords near Rain's base ling speed started for RorO
8:00 +1 range attack started for RorO Twilight council started for Rain Robo started for Rain spores going up in the mineral lines of RorO's bases Macro hatch for RorO Roach speed for RorO
9:00 2 more gas for RorO 3rd base started for Rain Infestation pit started for RorO +2 attack started for Rain Blink research started for Rain 4th base started for RorO Robotics bay for Rain Roro sending some lings and roaches across the map
10:00 cannons building at Rain's 3rd 2nd evo chamber for RorO pathogen glands started for RorO Roaches breaking down the rocks at Rain's natural ramp Stalkers chase the roaches away
11:00 RorO kills off the rocks 1-1 ling upgrades started for RorO infestor production started for RorO Colossus production started for Rain Extended thermal lance research started for Rain +3 attack started for Rain spire started for RorO
12:00 4 more gates for Rain Hive started for RorO rain pushes down his natural ramp and kills off some roaches for free basically
13:00 46 lings being made for Ror Fleet beacon started for Rain Corruptor production started for RorO ling runby attempt at the 3rd of Rain but there is a wall with cannons to deny it Spines going up for RorO
14:00 Burrow research started for RorO 2-2 ling upgrades started for RorO Mothership started for Rain Greater spire started for RorO adrenal glands started for RorO 5th base started for RorO 4th base started for Rain warp prism started for Rain warp prism speed started for Rain charge research started for Rain +1 armor started for Rain
15:00 ling runby at the 4th of Rain forces a cancel and most of the lings escape 4th base restarted for Rain 2nd spire for RorO Templar archives for Rain
On January 22 2013 16:54 Thinasy wrote: If Rain gets 3 kills now i'm gonna go cry
pretty much this.
btw can anyone explain why people would get someone like Stork on their anti, when there was JD who didnt play first two weeks and then Taeja who wont be playing the other two weeks?
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 7: 3-3 RorO vs Rain Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 RorO spawns in the bottom left Rain spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for RorO Nexus for Rain forge for Rain
3:00 Hatch for RorO gateway for Rain cannon for Rain double gas for Rain
4:00 3rd base for RorO Cybernetics core for Rain
5:00 stargate for Rain
6:00 double gas for RorO 2 more gas for Rain Phoenix production started for Rain
7:00 +1 attack started for Rain lair started for RorO roach warren started for RorO evo chamber for RorO 3 mroe gates for Rain 2 more gas for RorO phoenixes are killing off overlords near Rain's base ling speed started for RorO
8:00 +1 range attack started for RorO Twilight council started for Rain Robo started for Rain spores going up in the mineral lines of RorO's bases Macro hatch for RorO Roach speed for RorO
9:00 2 more gas for RorO 3rd base started for Rain Infestation pit started for RorO +2 attack started for Rain Blink research started for Rain 4th base started for RorO Robotics bay for Rain Roro sending some lings and roaches across the map
10:00 cannons building at Rain's 3rd 2nd evo chamber for RorO pathogen glands started for RorO Roaches breaking down the rocks at Rain's natural ramp Stalkers chase the roaches away
11:00 RorO kills off the rocks 1-1 ling upgrades started for RorO infestor production started for RorO Colossus production started for Rain Extended thermal lance research started for Rain +3 attack started for Rain spire started for RorO
12:00 4 more gates for Rain Hive started for RorO rain pushes down his natural ramp and kills off some roaches for free basically
13:00 46 lings being made for Ror Fleet beacon started for Rain Corruptor production started for RorO ling runby attempt at the 3rd of Rain but there is a wall with cannons to deny it Spines going up for RorO
14:00 Burrow research started for RorO 2-2 ling upgrades started for RorO Mothership started for Rain Greater spire started for RorO adrenal glands started for RorO 5th base started for RorO 4th base started for Rain warp prism started for Rain warp prism speed started for Rain charge research started for Rain +1 armor started for Rain
15:00 ling runby at the 4th of Rain forces a cancel and most of the lings escape 4th base restarted for Rain 2nd spire for RorO Templar archives for Rain
16:00 Brood lords begin morphing for RorO observer speed started for Rain 2nd warp prism for Rain Warp prism warping zealots into the main of RorO but lings and corruptors clean it up zealot runby at the 5th of rorO +1 air attack started for RorO storm research started for Rain
17:00 +2 armor started for Rain 1 of the warp prisms is killed 5th base of RorO is killed spore crawlers bring the 2nd Warp prism down to 5 hp and a corruptor flies over and kills it +1 air armor started for RorO 3-3 ling upgrades started for RorO archons coming out for Rain
18:00 Rain throwing up more cannons at home another warp prism is out for Rain Rain is moving out with his mothership to put pressure on RorO's 4th colossi start hitting drones from the high ground behind the 4th another warp prism being built for Rain 3 more brood lords morphing ling runby at the 4th of Rain but there is 7 cannons there to defend
19:00 Rain backs away from the 4th of RorO back to his watch tower another warp prism on the way for Rain warp prism is denied by corruptors and spores Rain pushes into the 4th of rorO and kills a few spines
20:00 feedback on tons of the infestors the mothership is able to get off a vortex on the corruptors but dies Rain retreats back to his watchtower warp prism flies into the main of Roro and is killed by tons of spores +2 air attack started for Roro neural parasite started for roro zealot warp in in the main of RorO +3 armor started for Rain zealots are cleaned up
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 7: 3-3 RorO vs Rain Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 RorO spawns in the bottom left Rain spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for RorO Nexus for Rain forge for Rain
3:00 Hatch for RorO gateway for Rain cannon for Rain double gas for Rain
4:00 3rd base for RorO Cybernetics core for Rain
5:00 stargate for Rain
6:00 double gas for RorO 2 more gas for Rain Phoenix production started for Rain
7:00 +1 attack started for Rain lair started for RorO roach warren started for RorO evo chamber for RorO 3 mroe gates for Rain 2 more gas for RorO phoenixes are killing off overlords near Rain's base ling speed started for RorO
8:00 +1 range attack started for RorO Twilight council started for Rain Robo started for Rain spores going up in the mineral lines of RorO's bases Macro hatch for RorO Roach speed for RorO
9:00 2 more gas for RorO 3rd base started for Rain Infestation pit started for RorO +2 attack started for Rain Blink research started for Rain 4th base started for RorO Robotics bay for Rain Roro sending some lings and roaches across the map
10:00 cannons building at Rain's 3rd 2nd evo chamber for RorO pathogen glands started for RorO Roaches breaking down the rocks at Rain's natural ramp Stalkers chase the roaches away
11:00 RorO kills off the rocks 1-1 ling upgrades started for RorO infestor production started for RorO Colossus production started for Rain Extended thermal lance research started for Rain +3 attack started for Rain spire started for RorO
12:00 4 more gates for Rain Hive started for RorO rain pushes down his natural ramp and kills off some roaches for free basically
13:00 46 lings being made for Ror Fleet beacon started for Rain Corruptor production started for RorO ling runby attempt at the 3rd of Rain but there is a wall with cannons to deny it Spines going up for RorO
14:00 Burrow research started for RorO 2-2 ling upgrades started for RorO Mothership started for Rain Greater spire started for RorO adrenal glands started for RorO 5th base started for RorO 4th base started for Rain warp prism started for Rain warp prism speed started for Rain charge research started for Rain +1 armor started for Rain
15:00 ling runby at the 4th of Rain forces a cancel and most of the lings escape 4th base restarted for Rain 2nd spire for RorO Templar archives for Rain
16:00 Brood lords begin morphing for RorO observer speed started for Rain 2nd warp prism for Rain Warp prism warping zealots into the main of RorO but lings and corruptors clean it up zealot runby at the 5th of rorO +1 air attack started for RorO storm research started for Rain
17:00 +2 armor started for Rain 1 of the warp prisms is killed 5th base of RorO is killed spore crawlers bring the 2nd Warp prism down to 5 hp and a corruptor flies over and kills it +1 air armor started for RorO 3-3 ling upgrades started for RorO archons coming out for Rain
18:00 Rain throwing up more cannons at home another warp prism is out for Rain Rain is moving out with his mothership to put pressure on RorO's 4th colossi start hitting drones from the high ground behind the 4th another warp prism being built for Rain 3 more brood lords morphing ling runby at the 4th of Rain but there is 7 cannons there to defend
19:00 Rain backs away from the 4th of RorO back to his watch tower another warp prism on the way for Rain warp prism is denied by corruptors and spores Rain pushes into the 4th of rorO and kills a few spines
20:00 feedback on tons of the infestors the mothership is able to get off a vortex on the corruptors but dies Rain retreats back to his watchtower warp prism flies into the main of Roro and is killed by tons of spores +2 air attack started for Roro neural parasite started for roro zealot warp in in the main of RorO +3 armor started for Rain zealots are cleaned up
21:00 5th base is started for Rain 13 brood lords are out for RorO 5th base started for RorO +2 air carapace started for RorO dark shrine started for Rain mothership on the way for rain ling runby to Rain's natural is denied lings pick off a HT sentry and archon
22:00 RorO pushing towards the 4th of Rain Rain is pushing the 4th of RorO another warp prism is being made by Rain Brood lords start sieging the 4th of Rain Colossi push into the 4th of RorO and kill it zealot runby at the 5th of RorO
23:00 ling runby forces a cancel on Rain's 5th full on base trade 3rd base of RorO is killed by the protoss army Brood lords are sieging the 3rd base Rain is sending his army home after killing Roro's 3rd and 5th
24:00 Neural parasite on the mothership RorO wastes the only vortex on the mothership mothership of rain is killed storm on all of the brood lords of RorO RorO stacked his whole army and is losing so much health stalkers blink under all of the brood lords Both players are plummeting in supply Corruptors are trying to kill off the Colossi Rain is able to kill all th ebroods
25:00 Both players are at about 85 supply Rain is trying to retake a new base but a burrowed ling denies it Rain is moving across the map ling runby to the natural of Rain
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 R2 Game 7: 3-3 RorO vs Rain Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 RorO spawns in the bottom left Rain spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for RorO Nexus for Rain forge for Rain
3:00 Hatch for RorO gateway for Rain cannon for Rain double gas for Rain
4:00 3rd base for RorO Cybernetics core for Rain
5:00 stargate for Rain
6:00 double gas for RorO 2 more gas for Rain Phoenix production started for Rain
7:00 +1 attack started for Rain lair started for RorO roach warren started for RorO evo chamber for RorO 3 mroe gates for Rain 2 more gas for RorO phoenixes are killing off overlords near Rain's base ling speed started for RorO
8:00 +1 range attack started for RorO Twilight council started for Rain Robo started for Rain spores going up in the mineral lines of RorO's bases Macro hatch for RorO Roach speed for RorO
9:00 2 more gas for RorO 3rd base started for Rain Infestation pit started for RorO +2 attack started for Rain Blink research started for Rain 4th base started for RorO Robotics bay for Rain Roro sending some lings and roaches across the map
10:00 cannons building at Rain's 3rd 2nd evo chamber for RorO pathogen glands started for RorO Roaches breaking down the rocks at Rain's natural ramp Stalkers chase the roaches away
11:00 RorO kills off the rocks 1-1 ling upgrades started for RorO infestor production started for RorO Colossus production started for Rain Extended thermal lance research started for Rain +3 attack started for Rain spire started for RorO
12:00 4 more gates for Rain Hive started for RorO rain pushes down his natural ramp and kills off some roaches for free basically
13:00 46 lings being made for Ror Fleet beacon started for Rain Corruptor production started for RorO ling runby attempt at the 3rd of Rain but there is a wall with cannons to deny it Spines going up for RorO
14:00 Burrow research started for RorO 2-2 ling upgrades started for RorO Mothership started for Rain Greater spire started for RorO adrenal glands started for RorO 5th base started for RorO 4th base started for Rain warp prism started for Rain warp prism speed started for Rain charge research started for Rain +1 armor started for Rain
15:00 ling runby at the 4th of Rain forces a cancel and most of the lings escape 4th base restarted for Rain 2nd spire for RorO Templar archives for Rain
16:00 Brood lords begin morphing for RorO observer speed started for Rain 2nd warp prism for Rain Warp prism warping zealots into the main of RorO but lings and corruptors clean it up zealot runby at the 5th of rorO +1 air attack started for RorO storm research started for Rain
17:00 +2 armor started for Rain 1 of the warp prisms is killed 5th base of RorO is killed spore crawlers bring the 2nd Warp prism down to 5 hp and a corruptor flies over and kills it +1 air armor started for RorO 3-3 ling upgrades started for RorO archons coming out for Rain
18:00 Rain throwing up more cannons at home another warp prism is out for Rain Rain is moving out with his mothership to put pressure on RorO's 4th colossi start hitting drones from the high ground behind the 4th another warp prism being built for Rain 3 more brood lords morphing ling runby at the 4th of Rain but there is 7 cannons there to defend
19:00 Rain backs away from the 4th of RorO back to his watch tower another warp prism on the way for Rain warp prism is denied by corruptors and spores Rain pushes into the 4th of rorO and kills a few spines
20:00 feedback on tons of the infestors the mothership is able to get off a vortex on the corruptors but dies Rain retreats back to his watchtower warp prism flies into the main of Roro and is killed by tons of spores +2 air attack started for Roro neural parasite started for roro zealot warp in in the main of RorO +3 armor started for Rain zealots are cleaned up
21:00 5th base is started for Rain 13 brood lords are out for RorO 5th base started for RorO +2 air carapace started for RorO dark shrine started for Rain mothership on the way for rain ling runby to Rain's natural is denied lings pick off a HT sentry and archon
22:00 RorO pushing towards the 4th of Rain Rain is pushing the 4th of RorO another warp prism is being made by Rain Brood lords start sieging the 4th of Rain Colossi push into the 4th of RorO and kill it zealot runby at the 5th of RorO
23:00 ling runby forces a cancel on Rain's 5th full on base trade 3rd base of RorO is killed by the protoss army Brood lords are sieging the 3rd base Rain is sending his army home after killing Roro's 3rd and 5th
24:00 Neural parasite on the mothership RorO wastes the only vortex on the mothership mothership of rain is killed storm on all of the brood lords of RorO RorO stacked his whole army and is losing so much health stalkers blink under all of the brood lords Both players are plummeting in supply Corruptors are trying to kill off the Colossi Rain is able to kill all th ebroods
25:00 Both players are at about 85 supply Rain is trying to retake a new base but a burrowed ling denies it Rain is moving across the map ling runby to the natural of Rain
26:00 lings get into the main of Rain and kill off the dark shrine Rain sends his army back to the main and cleans up the lings Nexus started for Rain at the 3 o clock base
27:00 RorO is repositioning his spines Rain moves in before the spines all root feedback on as many infestors as possible neural parasite on the archons and spines kill them
28:00 the new nexus of Rain is finished and he sends his probes to it RorO restarts a hatch at his 4th base location Rain is swinging around on the high ground at the 3rd base area of RorO 6 more infestors coming out for RorO 4 infestors throw out IT at the only mining base of Rain Rain loses his nexus Rain only has 74 minerals left Rain tries to attack into RorO's spine defended base
29:00 fungals on the stalkers puts them all in the yellow some IT are thrown out more infestors show up to the battle to fungal Rain is 40 supply down the last of Rain's army dies Rain ggs! RorO wins the game and Samsung KHAN takes the match 4-3!
To be fair rain maybe could have camped his bink stlakers on the ridge behind... then agian I have no clue how he affords splash against another infestor hit squad.
Why in the name of all the fuck would you NOT allin against a Zerg. Two base or three base, who cares, but playing that passively is never ever ever going to work out.
On January 22 2013 17:59 Tsubbi wrote: even after 20 nerfs the only worthwhile unit to build for zerg are damn infestors tt, hots cant come soon enough
I don't even want to get into balance whine, but yeah..
Although I wanted KHAN to win today, was bummed to see Rain lose that
Wow, that game got crazy. I really feel like Rain would have had a much better shot if he had tried to defend instead of attacking into the spine crawlers. Attacking would have been very hard for Roro with a bunch of unprotected infestors. Happy Khan took it though!
On January 22 2013 17:58 samurai80 wrote: once again a base trade into only winfestors remaining into zerg win...
pls stop your balance whining. it was just as gruesome when Roro lost like 15 broodlords to just storm.
I think most people here agree that the infestors winning ez pz at the end was kinda ..."sad" for such a good and even game. Also, i think you are missing like 25 stalkers and 4 collosi in your army count.
On January 22 2013 18:01 GrazerRinge wrote: damm that neural Mothership was really cool move by roro Very refreshing way of lategame p vs z - now my flash shall nomnomnom CJ!
On January 22 2013 17:59 Tsubbi wrote: even after 20 nerfs the only worthwhile unit to build for zerg are damn infestors tt, hots cant come soon enough
I don't even want to get into balance whine, but yeah..
Although I wanted KHAN to win today, was bummed to see Rain lose that
yes infestors are good if there counter is not on the battlefield anymore (colossi or ht)
but infestors are not the answer to every composition anymore.
On January 22 2013 17:58 samurai80 wrote: once again a base trade into only winfestors remaining into zerg win...
pls stop your balance whining. it was just as gruesome when Roro lost like 15 broodlords to just storm.
I think most people here agree that the infestors winning ez pz at the end was kinda ..."sad" for such a good and even game.
I thought it was sad that Roro got a perfect neural parasite on the mothership, fungaled half of Rain's army, and had about as high tier of a Zerg army as you could make, and it got crushed by simple storms and stalkers. That's what's sad to me. And he didn't win with just infestors. It was infestors + 10,000 spine crawlers + toss with ZERO economy.
On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo.
This is why Rain lost. Those spines were prebuilt so they didn't cost RorO anything (in the sense that they were sunk costs). Never a good idea to lose units to static defenses in low econ scenarios.
On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo.
This is why Rain lost. Those spines were prebuilt so they didn't cost RorO anything (in the sense that they were sunk costs). Never a good idea to lose units to static defenses in low econ scenarios.
Should have expanded and defended.
exactly. infestor is fine now : its a support unit with great harass power. but against protoss deathball, mass it doesn't do any damage.
On January 22 2013 18:05 DJHelium wrote: Rain can just camp the edge of the 4th base with a stalker or three, preventing the mining and making it less effective to use infestor energy vs him.
I think Roro could've just put a spine behind the mineral line and chilled his corruptors above so they could protect the drones. Not sure if that works though.
On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo.
Yeah. Not sure why Rain chose to attack there. His third was up much faster. All he needed was obs/cannon at third and some army to defend from infestor run by. Then he just needs 1-2 colo to deny mining on that base from the ridge. I think maybe he thought he was behind economically.
On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo.
This is why Rain lost. Those spines were prebuilt so they didn't cost RorO anything (in the sense that they were sunk costs). Never a good idea to lose units to static defenses in low econ scenarios.
Should have expanded and defended.
I think he was worried that if he defended, it would give Roro enough time to put up BL's again. Remember, he has no idea how much bank Roro still had. He probably felt he had the advantage on the ground in that moment and was trying to utilize it. It would take a while for Rain's expo to come back online and even longer to push out a new mothership. As you saw, Roro still had a ton of infestors, so it wouldn't be too difficult for him to scrape together 5-6 Broodlords and go back on the attack. It's easy for us to see because we have god vision, but for him as the player, it's a much tougher call.
On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo.
This is why Rain lost. Those spines were prebuilt so they didn't cost RorO anything (in the sense that they were sunk costs). Never a good idea to lose units to static defenses in low econ scenarios.
Should have expanded and defended.
Absolutely, back off and defend your expand. The Zerg is using the gas for Infestors, your need Colossi also Roro didnt have the eco to go back to Broods.
On January 22 2013 17:58 samurai80 wrote: once again a base trade into only winfestors remaining into zerg win...
pls stop your balance whining. it was just as gruesome when Roro lost like 15 broodlords to just storm.
I think most people here agree that the infestors winning ez pz at the end was kinda ..."sad" for such a good and even game.
also you can micro out of storms (which roro opted not to do) you cant micro vs infestors
Kinda difficult to micro broodlords out of storm.
But incredibly easy not to clump them like that.
I'm sure you guys saw those mass transfusions. If I had to choose between sparing APM to transfuse and trying to micro broodlords, which most liikely lowers their damage output, I think I'd choose to transfuse, just as the zerg player did.
On January 22 2013 18:05 DJHelium wrote: Rain can just camp the edge of the 4th base with a stalker or three, preventing the mining and making it less effective to use infestor energy vs him.
I think Roro could've just put a spine behind the mineral line and chilled his corruptors above so they could protect the drones. Not sure if that works though.
Did he even have corruptors left though? Probably could work but with blink it would still be more efficient to snipe spinecrawlers in those positions than going in head first into the forest
On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo.
Yeah. Not sure why Rain chose to attack there. His third was up much faster. All he needed was obs/cannon at third and some army to defend from infestor run by. Then he just needs 1-2 colo to deny mining on that base from the ridge. I think maybe he thought he was behind economically.
I agree with this. Roro had the better econ but Rain overestimated how big that advantage was. Plus, Rain had the base up faster which would help him close the gap quickly.
On January 22 2013 17:58 samurai80 wrote: once again a base trade into only winfestors remaining into zerg win...
pls stop your balance whining. it was just as gruesome when Roro lost like 15 broodlords to just storm.
I think most people here agree that the infestors winning ez pz at the end was kinda ..."sad" for such a good and even game.
also you can micro out of storms (which roro opted not to do) you cant micro vs infestors
Kinda difficult to micro broodlords out of storm.
But incredibly easy not to clump them like that.
I'm sure you guys saw those mass transfusions. If I had to choose between sparing APM to transfuse and trying to micro broodlords, which most liikely lowers their damage output, I think I'd choose to transfuse, just as the zerg player did.
Yeah, and split BLs before the battle while the vortex was active and while he was killing the mothership with his corruptors.
On January 22 2013 18:05 DJHelium wrote: Rain can just camp the edge of the 4th base with a stalker or three, preventing the mining and making it less effective to use infestor energy vs him.
I think Roro could've just put a spine behind the mineral line and chilled his corruptors above so they could protect the drones. Not sure if that works though.
Did he even have corruptors left though? Probably could work but with blink it would still be more efficient to snipe spinecrawlers in those positions than going in head first into the forest
I think he saved three of them. Well still dangerous since one fungal means certain death for stalkers in that case and Rain can't replace any of his army
The thing is that against infestors Rain wants to force that energy to be spent far away from his nexus. Without Splash he simply cannot deal with infestors by defending his third. So if he forces Roro to defend he can pin those infestors back home. at least he can ideally.... It's just bad design.
On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo.
This is why Rain lost. Those spines were prebuilt so they didn't cost RorO anything (in the sense that they were sunk costs). Never a good idea to lose units to static defenses in low econ scenarios.
Should have expanded and defended.
I think he was worried that if he defended, it would give Roro enough time to put up BL's again. Remember, he has no idea how much bank Roro still had. He probably felt he had the advantage on the ground in that moment and was trying to utilize it. It would take a while for Rain's expo to come back online and even longer to push out a new mothership. As you saw, Roro still had a ton of infestors, so it wouldn't be too difficult for him to scrape together 5-6 Broodlords and go back on the attack. It's easy for us to see because we have god vision, but for him as the player, it's a much tougher call.
After the main battle Rain saw that there are many Infestors - which means that Roro spend his gas on them not on broods + Roro was never able to take 5th base with 2 gases = low bank. Its better to try to defend your expand and build Stalker/Collosi combo then to walk down a ramp with 14 Infestors and 20 Spines and your army is 15 Stalkers and 3 Archons
On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo.
This is why Rain lost. Those spines were prebuilt so they didn't cost RorO anything (in the sense that they were sunk costs). Never a good idea to lose units to static defenses in low econ scenarios.
Should have expanded and defended.
I think he was worried that if he defended, it would give Roro enough time to put up BL's again. Remember, he has no idea how much bank Roro still had. He probably felt he had the advantage on the ground in that moment and was trying to utilize it. It would take a while for Rain's expo to come back online and even longer to push out a new mothership. As you saw, Roro still had a ton of infestors, so it wouldn't be too difficult for him to scrape together 5-6 Broodlords and go back on the attack. It's easy for us to see because we have god vision, but for him as the player, it's a much tougher call.
After the main battle Rain saw that there are many Infestors - which means that Roro spend his gas on them not on broods + Roro was never able to take 5th base with 2 gases = low bank. Its better to try to defend your expand and build Stalker/Collosi combo then to walk down a ramp with 14 Infestors and 20 Spines and your army is 15 Stalkers and 3 Archons
hmm good point about the no 5th = low bank. Although they had very few engagements before that point and things were sort of chaotic so maybe Rain wasn't sure? I don't know. I just know that the player doesn't have nearly as much info as we do. Also, rain had zero money, so it would take him quite a while to make colossi. Time in which Roro would be able to secure his expo and start making BLs again. I think he panicked when he saw all those spines rooting and got aggressive and then got owned by fungals.
I'm left really frustrated by that ending, it just felt so awkward to watch after that great game. I loved roro's ' fuck your warp prisms' spore crawler placement, rain's consistent good feedbacking of infestors, various bases being destroyed or canceled with harass and runbys. The little back and forth leading up to the epic mothership neuraling and then endless storms on the broodlords. Heck even roro's snipe of rain's expansion at the end was exciting ( made me miss coca doing that at mlg's and stuff) but that final forced fight was just ugly and depressing to watch.
On January 22 2013 18:02 eGoRama wrote: Why would you try to push against infestors and 20 Spines? To lose your Archons and 1/2 of your Stalkers. Wasn't good decision imo.
This is why Rain lost. Those spines were prebuilt so they didn't cost RorO anything (in the sense that they were sunk costs). Never a good idea to lose units to static defenses in low econ scenarios.
Should have expanded and defended.
exactly. infestor is fine now : its a support unit with great harass power. but against protoss deathball, mass it doesn't do any damage.
Infestor being "fine" is subjective and too early to tell. Majority of people still hate them . Blizz nerfed them a few times and they are probably still monitoring the situation. That aside, I find that the infestor is just a boring unit that doesn't create excitement. Who wants to watch the things the infestor do?
Holy shit. SKT defeated STX, the weakest team, in round 2 week 1. Then they never won a single match again. Their next and last R2 match is against KT, who isn't doing so hot lately as well.
On January 23 2013 00:13 Zealously wrote: What the heck happened to KHAN?
More like what the heck happened to SKT?
More like both? Khan has won their last 5 matches, losing the match before that to Stars in the Ace match. They were a hell of a good FPL pickup for a mere one point.
On January 23 2013 02:02 Ctesias wrote: Happy to see Khan back into fighting form. A shame SKT took their spot as the constant losers this round, though.
Yeah, winners round seems to be fucking with everyone's expectations. Wonder how it will look when we return to the winners round again after HOTS releases.
RORO mah boy. I was going to put a blog post how everyone should put him on their anti so that you could do well again. But I don't think i need to write that anymore.
That was a great match between those 2 teams. Really back and forth with a lot of action and tense moments. VODS are highly recommended, you could tell the korean commentators were on the edge of their seats.
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