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While we wait for the last confirmation, I have some general questions with respect to setup, but probably not ones that I will get very specific answers.
What is a common Townie/Blue/Mafia ratio? Something like 3/1/1? or 2.5/1.5/1? My first game of forum mafia here
Also curious, If Pa Grape (Cop) checks the Dinner Fork (Third Party), What does he receive back? According to OP he recieves EITHER guilty OR innocent. I assume he would get guilty, but that might mislead town about how many mafia they need to nail? I suppose that is a good/desirable part of the game?
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as for common ratios, you should look at bunch of other newbie games and draw conclusions from there. everything is in the op
SK checks return as guilty, unless the SK chooses the ability to return innocent to all checks. The sk's other option is have 1kp worth of protection.
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/obs if it isn't too late for that
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Will the starting time be the same as lynch deadline? If so, I'll probably not going to make it most of the time. 5 am here.
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48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion.
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On January 12 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote: 48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion.
you would be surprised
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On January 12 2013 03:29 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote: 48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion. you would be surprised
First game. No doubt I will be surprised .
I'm still going over in my head ways a Serial Killer can actually win without mafia OR town victory triggers happening.
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On January 12 2013 03:32 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 03:29 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 12 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote: 48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion. you would be surprised First game. No doubt I will be surprised . I'm still going over in my head ways a Serial Killer can actually win without mafia OR town victory triggers happening. Killing everybody else is usually a good start.
Then you go from there.
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On January 12 2013 03:33 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 03:32 Sn0_Man wrote:On January 12 2013 03:29 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 12 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote: 48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion. you would be surprised First game. No doubt I will be surprised . I'm still going over in my head ways a Serial Killer can actually win without mafia OR town victory triggers happening. Killing everybody else is usually a good start. Then you go from there.
Since I assume town can win even if SK is still alive (hes not mafia, town have no need to eliminate him), and mafia can win even if SK is still alive (I think...), SK has 2 possible win conditions. 1: Enter the final night with 3 living people, 1 mafia 1 townie and himself. He NK's the mafia, the mafia NK's the townie and voila. 2: Enter the final night with 2 living people, but still with his KP protection that he starts with (if he chooses). He kills mafia, mafia's attempt to kill him is blocked, done.
However, I thought scenario 2 would lead to mafia victory triggers? (all townies are dead). The Role section (and sample role PMs) weren't all that clear on mafia win conditions.
Thoughts? (since we have like 9+ hours to game start...)
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No, as long as the SK is alive, the game must go on.
He has to be lynched or shot.
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I am excited, dear children!
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On January 12 2013 03:48 Dandel Ion wrote: No, as long as the SK is alive, the game must go on.
He has to be lynched or shot.
I'm happy to believe that, but that is certainly not the way it is represented in the role explanation section. (And you don't happen to be host/cohost).
Either way, I gather that most games do NOT have an SK so...
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On January 12 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 03:48 Dandel Ion wrote: No, as long as the SK is alive, the game must go on.
He has to be lynched or shot. I'm happy to believe that, but that is certainly not the way it is represented in the role explanation section. (And you don't happen to be host/cohost). Either way, I gather that most games do NOT have an SK so... lol
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Yeah, I thought about SK kill conditions alot as well too. Seems very hard. A last night with 4 people including a vigilante also could lead to a winning scenario.
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On January 12 2013 04:55 zebezt wrote: Yeah, I thought about SK kill conditions alot as well too. Seems very hard. A last night with 4 people including a vigilante also could lead to a winning scenario.
I thought about that, but the chances of there being mafia, a vig AND an SK are pretty slim. The game ends too fast that way (I'm guessing). Plus the vig is decently likely to have used up their bullet{s} at that point.
either way, Dandelion seems to indicate that other kill conditions are superseded by there being an SK so the game wont insta-end. I don't really know.
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Game will not end if two parties still have a a chance of winning. Think of the town win con as 'eliminate all antitown factions' instead of eliminate all scum. And scum would not win with an sk still alive as he could shoot them every night.
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On January 12 2013 05:31 Promethelax wrote: Think of the town win con as 'eliminate all antitown factions' instead of eliminate all scum.
I know you aren't host, but my thoughts on the statement:
Write the town win con as 'eliminate all antitown factions' instead of "You win with town, by killing all the mafia dudes" (direct quote from sample VT role PM).
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What the fuck I'm not even listed as a replacement ?!
/obs please there is no game on-going right now, I'm going to obs the shit out of this game
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I formally request that no observers be permitted. I would like to limit exposure of my revolutionary scumhunting techniques, especially exposure that circumvents personal reimbursement. Thank you.
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