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+ Show Spoiler +I assume it's 28TT because
1.It's the only one of them that's not connected with another
2. It's the only one without a vowel
I took the easy way out, since you mentioned answers are most of the time simpler than you expect them to be
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I thought this was a Monster Girl Quest thread 
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France8043 Posts
On December 03 2012 02:01 Incze wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I assume it's 28TT because
1.It's the only one of them that's not connected with another
2. It's the only one without a vowel I took the easy way out, since you mentioned answers are most of the time simpler than you expect them to be
Damn didn't think about vowel/consonant when i made my own version of the problem, but no it is not the answer and reason.
It is a perfectly fine answer tho and it would have also worked for the original problem btw since all the answers had two consonants except one (at this point it is not nasty it is just unfair lol).
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Um I think you made a mistake in re-working it?
+ Show Spoiler +is to do with the letters of the number they follow? First letter/last letter:
57FE - Five Seven - is this wrong? Shouldn't it be 57FN?
84ER - Eight Four
45EF - Four Five
32TO - Three Two
91NE - Nine One
28TT - Two Eight
Choices:
57FE - Five Seven
45EF - Four Five - my thinking is it should be this one as the letters are reversed (assume you were wrong in doing the first string.
84ER - Eight Four
28TT - Two Eight
I've never done this kind of thing before, so I may have got this totally wrong.
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57FE Five sEven
45EF four(no E) Five
84ER Eight fouR
28TT Two eighT
so 45EF is the odd one out
I don't have any experience with these tests and don't even know what a distractor is.
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On December 03 2012 02:45 Deleuze wrote:Um I think you made a mistake in re-working it? + Show Spoiler +is to do with the letters of the number they follow? First letter/last letter:
57FE - Five Seven - is this wrong? Shouldn't it be 57FN?
84ER - Eight Four
45EF - Four Five
32TO - Three Two
91NE - Nine One
28TT - Two Eight
Choices:
57FE - Five Seven
45EF - Four Five - my thinking is it should be this one as the letters are reversed (assume you were wrong in doing the first string.
84ER - Eight Four
28TT - Two Eight
I've never done this kind of thing before, so I may have got this totally wrong.
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You are right indeed i made a mistake it was 57FN. Also for some funny reason you answer is not exactly true (45EF was indeed the distracter but the justification is slightly different) but at the same time you are pretty close of the answer for the second question.
Are you a French guy leaving in Britain ?
I'm sorry for people who couldn't find the answer because of the wrong the letter, just edited :o
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Not sure how to answer this kind of question at all (what's a distractor?), never answered these kinds of questions before... That said, just applying normal logic, you can make a case for most of them, which is why I find these questions or similar ones stupid-- there are often multiple logically possible answers.
1) 28TT - it is sequentially separated from the other three, is the only answer that does not appear in a cluster, also is the only answer lacking a vowel, or having a sequence of two consonants, and is the only answer whereby one of the letter components, when converted into a digit (ie. a1 b2 c3) does not correspond to a digit in its numerical component.
2) 84ER, is the only answer that cannot be mapped sequentially from the initial sequence to the answer. Imagine the questions a-e to be a linear ordered sequence with 4 elements that maps on to the question sequence (with 6 elements), the position in the a-e sequence must correspond to the position in the 6-element sequence. Since it is a lossy conversion, each position in the possible answers, a-e corresponds to 1.5 of a position in the initial sequence. 57FE and 28TT map on, being the first and last choices. of the remaining, 45EF is in its proper place after conversion, 84ER is out of sequence (and cannot be mapped).
3) THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER -
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45EF
all the numbers are coded such that the first letter corresponds to the first letter of the name of the first numeral, and the second letter corresponds to the last letter of the second numeral, EXCEPT for 45EF, which is backwards. (however the OP must have altered this, to make it 'easier' but actually made it inconsistent)
i.e. 28TT = Twenty eighT, 91NE = Ninety onE, 32TO = Thirty twO, 45EF = fivE Fourty, 84ER = Eighty fouR, 57FE = Fifty sevEn? (why did you change 57?)
I would assume it would be more difficult in french because digits do not correspond to number names in the same way, i.e. thirty translates as twenty ten, and eighty translates as four-twenty.
EDIT: ahh, you corrected it now. 
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+ Show Spoiler +Yea you got the exact answer caradoc. Deleuze and Tissue were really close and they found the right distracter but it was the first/last letter of the number and not of the two numerical digits
Now the answer of the second question should be fairly easy and i will just say that you couldn't find the right distracter by using the numerical digits and instead you had to use the first/last letter of the numbers to solve the original problem and indeed you are right again caradoc. Québécois ?
Oh and yea i used the word "distracter" because i couldn't find a proper translation for "intru".
I think the reason why i found this problem hard is that i was really trying to find a pattern, to associate a letter with a number or to find some sort of symetry (like in the other questions).
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I don't get the point of these questions. At all.
There's the answer that the guy who made the question had in mind when he made it, and you might be able to guess it.
But at the same time there are countless of other answers with their respective reasonings that make just as much sense as the intended answer.
I can create arbitrary mathematical constructs that yield any of the possible answers, depending on my mood at the time. I can reach the same answer through infinitely many different constructs.
Is this a "guess what I had in mind" contest? Or is there a set of rules that makes sure only one right answer exists, written down somewhere publicly by a standards commitee? Or do the people asking these questions not realize that their own reasoning is just one of many valid reasonings?
Really, I don't get it. None of the above make sense to me.
IQ tests have these kinds of questions too, right? How can you test intelligence with a question that is conceptually flawed?
I guess you can do the "guess what I had in mind" part for fun, and that's fine.
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These kinds of tests are I believe only used to assess whether the subject fits the lowest common denominator or bear skills as only the first hurdle to a larger process.
I do agree with what spinesheath says about there being multiple logical answers and that these tests can punish thinking out of the box - but I don't believe that this is the point of them, if you can 'work out' generally what is meant to be the right answer than you're gonna pass to the next stage of assessment I guess.
Anyway, Boblion what was the second question?
btw I am a UK guy in the UK, not French - c'est la vie. Lots of French people on Battle.net start talking to me in French cos of my name, but not on TL, here they mostly make fun of it. ;(
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