EPTGM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating th…
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ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
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iCoNz.BoSS
United States17 Posts
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XuoriG
Canada165 Posts
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MiCroLiFe
Norway264 Posts
Server EU League+Rank DIA (but had only wins, clearly a master who smurfs) Replay http://drop.sc/279878 Description/what to look for into the replay : Right before my first medievac drop he select his mmarines, and stim exactly the same moment when he can se my medievac. NO one have that good reaction. and the screen was on the drop place for 5 seconds before the drop came, take only his vision, and check, you can clearly se it, | ||
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Shew
United States460 Posts
pretty self explanatory... proxy 2gate without scout on 4p map. for some reason i always get maphackerso n condemned ridge... and i have that map veto'd http://drop.sc/280002 Also here is chatlog ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZGkVg.png) edit: link if pic isnt working: http://imgur.com/ZGkVg | ||
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FeyverN
United States104 Posts
Maphacking can only get you so far before you hit a plateau. I wouldn't think that if you maphacked you would have a 100% winrate, because even the most blatant hackers lose games. I'm not sure how true that is, but that is how I see it. APM, multi tasking and macro is sub-par to your level and the only reason you win is because you have 100% winrate vs cheeses and your opponent can't try to "trick" you. | ||
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Shew
United States460 Posts
On November 30 2012 07:00 FeyverN wrote: ^ I just wanna throw this out here: Maphacking can only get you so far before you hit a plateau. I wouldn't think that if you maphacked you would have a 100% winrate, because even the most blatant hackers lose games. I'm not sure how true that is, but that is how I see it. APM, multi tasking and macro is sub-par to your level and the only reason you win is because you have 100% winrate vs cheeses and your opponent can't try to "trick" you. i never said it's 100% winrate. They are still bad players so they make really basic mistakes, but obviously maphackers don't win 100% of the time. A majority of these maphackers were like diamond or really low master before hacking, so they still have a lot to learn about the game, and when you make those lower level mistakes vs higher tier opponents you're going to get crushed | ||
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HyDrA_solic
Portugal491 Posts
On November 30 2012 07:00 FeyverN wrote: ^ I just wanna throw this out here: Maphacking can only get you so far before you hit a plateau. I wouldn't think that if you maphacked you would have a 100% winrate, because even the most blatant hackers lose games. I'm not sure how true that is, but that is how I see it. APM, multi tasking and macro is sub-par to your level and the only reason you win is because you have 100% winrate vs cheeses and your opponent can't try to "trick" you. True, I lost once to a maphacker, and after I knew he was maphacker I faced him again and played really conservative.. And Won. He was so bad. But still it's really unfair.. | ||
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FeyverN
United States104 Posts
On November 30 2012 07:04 Shew wrote: i never said it's 100% winrate. They are still bad players so they make really basic mistakes, but obviously maphackers don't win 100% of the time. A majority of these maphackers were like diamond or really low master before hacking, so they still have a lot to learn about the game, and when you make those lower level mistakes vs higher tier opponents you're going to get crushed So in a way, if you're playing against someone on the ladder who you know for a hacker, then you can just play a straight up macro game and strain his multi tasking in order to win. In a way, the matchmaking system finds you and the hacker to be evenly skilled, otherwise you wouldn't be playing against the hacker. It is still really unfair, but I believe if you don't do any gimmicks or cheeses then you should win without a problem. | ||
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Rantech
Chile525 Posts
Server: NA League+Rank: High Masters Replay : http://drop.sc/280065 Description/what to look for into the replay: Proxied 2rax rauder. Constantly looking at my base. Check his first person. | ||
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stava88
Israel31 Posts
Played against him on entombed, 8 pooled him, he then re directs probe from natural pylon to in base one, builds a forge and gateway in his main and then a cannon, doesn't send any probe to cannon rush me or anything. All of the above without scouting at any point. I can supply you with a replay if needed. | ||
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ranjutan
United States636 Posts
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TylerThaCreator
United States906 Posts
http://drop.sc/280188 | ||
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Melaine
United States56 Posts
Even with map hack, you still have to know how to play and micro/macro, mh does not do that for you. I hate map hackers to, and most are bad, but the ones in Master+/gm+ can get there with out map hack. Fxo-tricky is a perfect example of this, He can hit GM with out map hacking, but MH just to bm and harass Top lvl Pro gms | ||
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TylerThaCreator
United States906 Posts
On November 30 2012 15:00 Melaine wrote: @ shrew, there are plenty of map hackers who are GM with out map hacking, but they are Comp sci majors who help produce the sc2 hacks, so alot of the top GM map hack you see, are in fact GM with out map hack, But MH to bm players for their sick enjoyment, so your statement that "all map hackers are noobs and bad" is pretty false. Even with map hack, you still have to know how to play and micro/macro, mh does not do that for you. I hate map hackers to, and most are bad, but the ones in Master+/gm+ can get there with out map hack. Fxo-tricky is a perfect example of this, He can hit GM with out map hacking, but MH just to bm and harass Top lvl Pro gms absolutely none of that is true. | ||
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DerBeutelWolf
Belize15 Posts
Tricky, Impa, or GERUDO as he is called now IS GM without hacks. I saw him stream recently WITHOUT hax and he was in GM, beating GMs... | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1363 Posts
On November 30 2012 15:42 DerBeutelWolf wrote: Tricky, Impa, or GERUDO as he is called now IS GM without hacks. I saw him stream recently WITHOUT hax and he was in GM, beating GMs... he is still an idiot | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On November 30 2012 15:42 DerBeutelWolf wrote: Tricky, Impa, or GERUDO as he is called now IS GM without hacks. I saw him stream recently WITHOUT hax and he was in GM, beating GMs... You can hack while streaming. The fact that you believe hes innocent because he was streaming and it didn't show hacks gives me reason to not believe you. | ||
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DerBeutelWolf
Belize15 Posts
On November 30 2012 16:18 PanN wrote: You can hack while streaming. The fact that you believe hes innocent because he was streaming and it didn't show hacks gives me reason to not believe you. I also know him in person, and my friend who is a GM has played vs him numerous times. Including custom games WITHOUT that guy hacking and he is actually GM level. Gj saying ''Absolutely none of that is true.'' when you are clueless | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
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