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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
November 27 2012 22:44 GMT
#3801
On November 27 2012 20:17 bGr.MetHiX wrote:
TOPTiesalie is back to maphacking. 100/30 record already with 2 games against me in which he never scouts on 4 base maps,never scans,sends armies immediately to ninja expands etc etc...

pretty sad person.


oh wow, i just played this guy and without scouting anything, he build 5 bunkers vs my blinkstalker allin. he died 2 minutes later.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Shew
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States460 Posts
November 27 2012 22:48 GMT
#3802
hacker whysomad is back on NA! Still BM as ever hahahahaha, proxy double rax on condemned ridge in my nat with no scout, and some witty banter

http://drop.sc/279318
http://www.twitch.tv/shew_tv | @ClarityShew on Twitter~
NbForLife
Profile Joined July 2011
France14 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 07:45:57
November 27 2012 23:34 GMT
#3803
Hi everyone,

Im Mid Master Terran and what i can say for my opinion, there are very scary move from lot of players. A move in the dark is fun, but definitely so strange.
Last Maphacker is "CONE" Mid Master Terran play all game right without any scan, any Xel'naga all game, counter blind hellion, see blind my attack on her fourth, drop in the dark on my tank... and everything with 50 epm all game long...
I was pretty upset during the game, just feel something was wrong and apperentyl right...
After some search on the net, i found ValiantChaos is that the only maphcck available ?
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel323 Posts
November 28 2012 01:06 GMT
#3804
On November 28 2012 08:34 NbForLife wrote:
Hi everyone,

Im Mid Master Terran and what i can say for my opinion, there are very scary move from lot of players. A move in the dark is fun, but definitely so strange.
Last Maphacker is "Cone" Mid Master Terran play all game right without any scan, any Xel'naga all game, counter blind hellion, see blind my attack on her fourth, drop in the dark on my tank... and everything with 50 epm all game long...
I was pretty upset during the game, just feel something was wrong and apperentyl right...
After some search on the net, i found ValiantChaos is that the only maphcck available ?

Please post a replay.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
November 28 2012 01:58 GMT
#3805
On November 27 2012 14:06 nunez wrote:
@3:15 probe queues up without selecting the nexus (selection, training and deselction happens within one frame)
[image loading]

Please note that since v. 1.5.x? (not exactly sure when this began) selecting the main building and then building a worker often happens in same frame, when manually selecting the building by clicking it. This happens very frequently in the beginning of game (nearly every match at least based on my replays).

Examples - zerg (there was also variation where there was delay between select hatch & s. larva, but no delay between select larva & train drone in my last couple of replays):
132 [censored] Select Hatchery (102f8)
132 [censored] Select Larva x3 (102fc,10300,10304), Deselect all
144 [censored] Train Drone

terran:
168 [censored] Select Command Center (1025c)
168 [censored] Train SCV
200 [censored] Select SCV x5 (10260,10264,10268,1026c,10270), Deselect all

protoss:
168 [censored] Select Nexus (102dc), Deselect all
168 [censored] Train Probe
180 [censored] Train Probe
212 [censored] Select Probe x3 (102e4,102ec,102f4), Deselect all

But in your example there should have been delay between 'train probe' & 'select probe - deselect all' actions
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 03:51:30
November 28 2012 02:57 GMT
#3806
On November 28 2012 10:58 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 14:06 nunez wrote:
@3:15 probe queues up without selecting the nexus (selection, training and deselction happens within one frame)
[image loading]

Please note that since v. 1.5.x? (not exactly sure when this began) selecting the main building and then building a worker often happens in same frame, when manually selecting the building by clicking it. This happens very frequently in the beginning of game (nearly every match at least based on my replays).

Examples - zerg (there was also variation where there was delay between select hatch & s. larva, but no delay between select larva & train drone in my last couple of replays):
132 [censored] Select Hatchery (102f8)
132 [censored] Select Larva x3 (102fc,10300,10304), Deselect all
144 [censored] Train Drone

terran:
168 [censored] Select Command Center (1025c)
168 [censored] Train SCV
200 [censored] Select SCV x5 (10260,10264,10268,1026c,10270), Deselect all

protoss:
168 [censored] Select Nexus (102dc), Deselect all
168 [censored] Train Probe
180 [censored] Train Probe
212 [censored] Select Probe x3 (102e4,102ec,102f4), Deselect all

But in your example there should have been delay between 'train probe' & 'select probe - deselect all' actions


yes, i am aware that there is possibilities for stuff to happen in one frame. watching the replay you can see there is no selection of (or focus on) the nexus at all, because as you say there is no delay between the train probe / select probe. in addition there is the part where 3 nexuses get selected individually and probes are trained, all within one frame.

edit: and noted.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Chatorsws
Profile Joined April 2012
France2 Posts
November 28 2012 05:32 GMT
#3807
http://drop.sc/279453
Nerffy ...
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 10:24:43
November 28 2012 10:24 GMT
#3808
CaliDreaming

https://hotfile.com/dl/181388795/3013d75/hacker.SC2Replay.html

Blindly drops a forge, unlikely direct scout of my proxy, blindly drops a pylon in my main.

(Don't laugh at my terrible strategy, I just hate PvP and don't want a long game lol.)
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
November 28 2012 10:32 GMT
#3809
http://imgur.com/6hK0I,ymKXV,I47HI#2

loollloololol

blublub
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland18 Posts
November 28 2012 11:37 GMT
#3810
Are admins from blizzard giving any penalties for hacking atm (block account for some period or ban it ?)
Is evidence in a form of a replay like the ones in the first post actually working and blizzard may ban/block people looking on this post ?
Terra nostrum !
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
November 28 2012 12:11 GMT
#3811
is it some kind of pattern that 80% of the hackers are from NA server?
anyhow they suck.
Maru | Life | herO
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 16:40:31
November 28 2012 16:31 GMT
#3812
I got a maphacker here, possibly two of them. But blue in this game map hacks 100%. It's not even worth it to mention all of the places where he hacks... from the beginning of the game he lets us know that he hacks. He says my location (which could just be luck), but the rest follows... and he often looks in my base during the game. His ID is Hailey, Masters 1v1 player (though this replay is FFA, teaming with his friend 2v1 and losing):

http://drop.sc/279558

How do I report him and get him banned?

Edit: I reported him with the in-game function but last time I used this it didn't work.
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 16:52:00
November 28 2012 16:51 GMT
#3813
I didnt think I had encountered any maphackers, but looking at all the obvious examples posted today alone seems to make the odds of that pretty slim.... Thats depressing...
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
November 28 2012 20:40 GMT
#3814
i have assumed control of the OP and done a provisional update. pm me if you have any ideas, contributions etc.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
ASGuerrero
Profile Joined October 2011
Portugal5 Posts
November 28 2012 21:08 GMT
#3815
I was playing 1v1 ladder Master League with this guy Duffygirl and got 6 pool lings/drones rushed. Until this part, everything is normal. But, after checking the replay, I found myself in player's view mode (Duffgirl), Entombed Valley - 4 position map - and just seeing him moving around in my main and preparing rally points directly to my base without any kind of scout (even the overlord he purposely send it in the other way).

Then I checked his match history and what I saw? 3 or 4 wins in a row with the same tactic IN THE SAME 4 POSITION KIND OF MAPS.

Duffygirl vs AGSlave (my replay): http://drop.sc/279693
Duffygirl vs Kawa: http://drop.sc/279682
(and I'm still waiting for Dantirius replay)

I just waste some of my time and went questioning the other players that got rushed/hacked. And what I've found? Simple direct 6pool drone rush with no scout at all. After they saw the replay, they just told me the following and confirm the obvious (I asked them to send me the replay):

Chats:

Duffygirl :
http://imgur.com/unwaqhttp://imgur.com/unwaq

(yes, I'm a detective that never complain or reported a player before. Whats the point in arguing with this kind of guys if there's evidences...)

Kawa:
http://imgur.com/mjEA5

This is the replay from Kawa (really hilarious the way he send the overlord to the 3rd exp in Antiga and when he is in his way with the drones/ling and saw the zealot timing) : http://drop.sc/279682

Dantirius:
http://imgur.com/TJE9A


The funny thing, that I'm realizing now, is that maybe I'm not the first complaining: Replays associated to Duffgirl found when uploading in http://drop.sc

Long live the hacker that was Gold last season and now Top Master! : )

Hope this will do something.
(<.< ))
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
November 28 2012 21:16 GMT
#3816
On November 26 2012 16:19 nunez wrote:
Player: CrazyAPM (he has really low apm, around 60 usually), protoss, http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/135792/2/CrazyAPM/
Server: EU
League: Master, 1214 points, 64 wins / 65 losses. http://sc2ranks.com/ru/135792/CrazyAPM

Description / Replays:

CrazyAPM (p, bot left) vs soulbrother (z, bot right) @ shakuras

pool firs vs forge first
@2:06 probe dodges the overlord outside soulbrothers (my) natural without vision, and runs up to start pylon block.
puts down a nex
@6:25 looks into my base clouded by FOW.
@7:40 going stargate, takes another look into my base.
@8:20 souldbrother making roaches and starting a nydus.
@8:40 sets the rally into FOW where an overlord his, he has no vision.
@8:50 puts a plyon to cover the left side of his base where the overlord is. pays absolutely no attention to the right side of the base, where there are no overlords spotting.
kills of the ovi as soulbrother takes his natural and goes hydras.
@14:00 moves out for a gateway stargate attack. gets fended off.

CrazyAPM (p, top left) vs flyHigh (t, bot right) @ ohana

no probe scout, goes nex first. flyHigh going 1 rax exp.
puts down 2 gates and chronos out the zealot, flyHigh is pulling scvs to pressure nex.
@6:56 is losing probes to the marine pressure, has no scouting, is still on 2 gates and 1 gas. puts down a third nexus. flyHigh is making his third nex.
@9:35 is going doulbe forge, with no scouting still. flyHigh is starting +1 +1.
@10:25 has still not turned his gateways into warpgates. flyHigh moving out to pressure his third. loses third but cleans up with some probe losses. leaves game when the next attack kills his army.

CrazyAPM (p, bot left) vs ChrisJ (p, bot right) @ entombed valley

no probe scout from CrazyAPM, ChrisJ scouts him first.
@4:45 ChrisJ going for a 4 gate, CrazyAPM going 3 gate.
@4:50 completely walls of his front with no scouting info while going 3 gate with stalkers.
dies to the 4 gate.

CrazyAPM (p, bot left) vs Spirates (t, top right) @ tal'darim altar

nexus first, no probe scout, into gate. spirates going 1 rax exp with scv scout, scouts him second.
@3:40 slects his probe and moves towards were the scv comes up just as it does come up the ramp, the gate was not done so it was not to place a building.
upon scouting the nex spirates sends some some marines across map to pressure. crazyAPM is chronoing gate.
@4:20 takes a glance into fow at marines
spirates putting down 2 more rax
@5:50 jukes out spirates marines with the zealot that chased away the marines, outside the bot right natural. he doesn't even know if spirates spawned there.
goign robo and double forge off 1 gate, spirates going into stim getting reactors and adding another cc.
@7:46 adds on a third nexus blindly, off one gate with double forge. still no scouting.
@9:04 looks straight Spirates marine force outside Spirates main.
@10:35 spirates moving out with first two medevacs towards the third of CrazyAPM. he moves his army down and has a peak at spirates force through FOW.
@11:02 spirates stims up a few marines into nat and third, CrazyAPM moves his army to the natural ramp where spirates is moving up. cleans up attack.
@12:25 another look at spirates army into fog of war.
@13:50 looks into fog of war on double drop outside his third and moves his army down, and warps in hts to feedback medevacs at his natural. is looking at his natural as they come into vision.
@15:20 looks into fog of war at 3 misrallied medevacs and moves to kill at the xnt outside his nat.
@15:40 gets caught off guard by a double drop at his third. this is a nice example of how the argument about 'he let X happen, clearly he is not maphacking' is not a good one. maphacking doesn't give you good multitasking, only good scouting.
@16:57 warps in zealots to the 11 o'clock main where spirates is building a cc, he has no vision.
@19:22 takes a peak at spirates army through fog of war
@20:54 looks at spirates big drop through fog of war

three first replays are pretty suspicious, but the last one vs spirates is beyond conclusive.



confirmed

http://drop.sc/279696

Big shoutout to you guys, i would never have scouted there if i wouldnt have read this thread :D
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
November 28 2012 22:49 GMT
#3817
On November 29 2012 05:40 nunez wrote:
i have assumed control of the OP and done a provisional update. pm me if you have any ideas, contributions etc.


Please watch my rep posted above. He is a Masters player (Hailey) on US server. 100% hacks.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 17:23:15
November 28 2012 22:55 GMT
#3818
Player: IIIIIIII, zerg, http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1768745/1/IIIIIIII/
Server: EU
League: Master, 973 points, 100 won / 92 loss

Description / replays:

IIIIIIII (z, bot left) vs soulbrother (z, top right) @ daybreak

@5:43 soulbrother (me) making 5 roaches, barcode pumping 34 lings, and sending a group of lings to the top of the map for some reason.
@6:05 camera lock
@6:21 is looking at his main building lings, moves the camera to his natural and then does a minimap inject on the main and then does a minimap inject on the natural while looking at it as he's building drones.
[image loading]
@6:40 looks through fog of war at roaches.
@7:10 runs speedlings blindly into my natural and spams click them away through minimap, then does minimap injects and reselects his zerglings within one frame (and not through hotkey), which means he would have to do the minimap injects and box his moving speedlings again within one frame, which is impossible.
[image loading]
@7:50 double minimapinject as he's sending 3 drones to an extractor
@9:38 looks into fog of war at lings.
@9:52 looks into fog of war at roaches at third.

no need to look further, the rest of the replay continues in the same fashion.

IIIIIIII (p, top right) vs TokyoBoner (t, top left) @ shakuras plateu

@3:21 barcode opens 1 gate nex into gas and cyber no scout, TB is going 1 rax exp.
@5:38 does what seems like an impossible building position, selecting a probe and building pylons with center outside his view, since you can't build via the minimap, and if you even try to build at the very edge at your screen your screen will move, not sure about this one though. (http://i.imgur.com/dTOG8.jpg) (edit: debunked, not evidence)
@6:06 sends his units to TB's nat, not scouting yet. does a poke up sees 5 marines two depots and a rax. at this point TB has floated his CC to the 12 o'clock expo, unbeknownst to barcode.
@7:52 barcode starts working on the rocks and warps in a zealot on the lowground from his main to attack the cc he had no knowledge of.
@9:08 starts elevatoring into TB's main. TB going bio getting starport +1 and stim. barcode getting a froge and a robo bay.
@11:30 TB is moving cross map, barcode has no vision
@11:45 TB starts elevatoring into barcode's main, still no vision.
@11:50 moves his army towards the corner where TB has his force and pops a guardian shield without having vision. waits for the second colo and cleans him up.

On December 01 2012 01:59 korona wrote:
This replay also contains usage of auto-chronoboost hack. At 9:26 while IIIIIIII is doing a warp prism + warpgate attack to terran's main all his 5 warpgates are chronoboosted via minimap during one frame while he actively microes at the terran's main.

The auto-chrono sequence is (happens during one frame):
1) Hotkey Select 2 <-- nexuses
2) Chronoboost several individual warpgates via minimap
3) select previous selection


Action lists from sc2gears:
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
35656 IIIIIIII Hotkey Select 1 <--- contains 1 stalker & zealots
35712 IIIIIIII Attack; target: MULE (10474); target: x=56.66,y=121.70
35744 IIIIIIII Attack; target: MULE (10474); target: x=57.62,y=120.94
35768 IIIIIIII Attack; target: MULE (10474); target: x=58.45,y=120.29
35792 IIIIIIII Attack; target: SCV (10450); target: x=58.62,y=120.19
35812 IIIIIIII Attack; target: x=65.48,y=115.64
35836 IIIIIIII Attack; target: x=65.74,y=117.07
35856 IIIIIIII Attack; target: x=65.60,y=118.66
35892 IIIIIIII Attack; target: x=65.58,y=120.30
35916 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=65.47,y=121.01
35936 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=65.47,y=121.04
35948 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=65.47,y=121.04
35960 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=65.47,y=121.04
35980 IIIIIIII Attack; target: x=66.29,y=118.15
36028 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=68.22,y=119.55
36040 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=68.22,y=119.55
36048 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=68.22,y=119.55
36096 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=69.37,y=120.18
36104 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=69.40,y=120.21
36116 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=69.45,y=120.21

36184 IIIIIIII Hotkey Select 2
36184 IIIIIIII [MinimapClick] Chrono Boost (Nexus); target: Warp Gate (10420); target: x=129.50,y=115.50
36184 IIIIIIII [MinimapClick] Chrono Boost (Nexus); target: Warp Gate (1041c); target: x=126.50,y=115.50
36184 IIIIIIII [MinimapClick] Chrono Boost (Nexus); target: Warp Gate (10418); target: x=125.50,y=118.50
36184 IIIIIIII [MinimapClick] Chrono Boost (Nexus); target: Warp Gate (10414); target: x=124.50,y=121.50
36184 IIIIIIII [MinimapClick] Chrono Boost (Nexus); target: Warp Gate (102f4); target: x=139.50,y=118.50
36184 IIIIIIII Select Stalker (1037c), Zealot x8 (10350,1036c,20448,104c4,104c8,104cc,104d0,104d4), Deselect all


This is first replay where I have seen/noticed auto-chronoboost in action.


pretty strong evidence of maphacks.

Conclusion

his build in the first game is very weird in itself, with no scouting (of course), but that combined with the impossible minimap injects that are just like in SuiNys replays and armymovement / looking into fog of war i think this replay in itself provides conclusive proof. the auto injects through minimap being the most obvious one. in the second game he did some absurd manouvers like warping in to a hidden base he had no vision of, and prematurely popping a guradian shield attacking units he didn't have knowledge about in his main, in addition it seems he used auto-chronoboost for one round of chrono.

ps:
if you want to check if someone is using this type of auto-inject hack i suggest you search through the actions in your replay for "[MinimapClick] Spawn Larva (Queen); target: Hatchery" using sc2gears, and check if the selection, minimapclick and reselection (of the previously selected objects) happens within one frame, and if it seems impossible/implausible when you look through the replay from the zergs perspective.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
November 28 2012 23:14 GMT
#3819
Good shit nunez. Well done man.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel323 Posts
November 29 2012 00:23 GMT
#3820
Good job nunez! OP is looking good.
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