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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 00:58:49
November 29 2012 00:58 GMT
#3821
I'm glad someone took over the fight against hackers! Keep up the good work guys.
iCoNz.BoSS
Profile Joined June 2012
United States17 Posts
November 29 2012 03:39 GMT
#3822
great job nunez thanks for the support
live life as humble as a peasant, but show pride like youre a king
XuoriG
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada165 Posts
November 29 2012 03:49 GMT
#3823
yay, go runez!
MiCroLiFe
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway275 Posts
November 29 2012 16:14 GMT
#3824
Hacker name : GRUS
Server EU
League+Rank DIA (but had only wins, clearly a master who smurfs)
Replay http://drop.sc/279878
Description/what to look for into the replay :

Right before my first medievac drop he select his mmarines, and stim exactly the same moment when he can se my medievac. NO one have that good reaction. and the screen was on the drop place for 5 seconds before the drop came,
take only his vision, and check, you can clearly se it,
Im Terran. Yes i will balance whine somethimes. And thats how we terrans survive, Hoping for balance patches<3
Shew
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 20:08:11
November 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#3825
new maphacker... Jaycraft on NA. idk who "gerudo" is but he keeps mentioning him

pretty self explanatory... proxy 2gate without scout on 4p map. for some reason i always get maphackerso n condemned ridge... and i have that map veto'd

http://drop.sc/280002

Also here is chatlog

[image loading]

edit: link if pic isnt working: http://imgur.com/ZGkVg
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FeyverN
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States104 Posts
November 29 2012 22:00 GMT
#3826
^ I just wanna throw this out here:

Maphacking can only get you so far before you hit a plateau. I wouldn't think that if you maphacked you would have a 100% winrate, because even the most blatant hackers lose games.

I'm not sure how true that is, but that is how I see it. APM, multi tasking and macro is sub-par to your level and the only reason you win is because you have 100% winrate vs cheeses and your opponent can't try to "trick" you.
fuck
Shew
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States460 Posts
November 29 2012 22:04 GMT
#3827
On November 30 2012 07:00 FeyverN wrote:
^ I just wanna throw this out here:

Maphacking can only get you so far before you hit a plateau. I wouldn't think that if you maphacked you would have a 100% winrate, because even the most blatant hackers lose games.

I'm not sure how true that is, but that is how I see it. APM, multi tasking and macro is sub-par to your level and the only reason you win is because you have 100% winrate vs cheeses and your opponent can't try to "trick" you.


i never said it's 100% winrate. They are still bad players so they make really basic mistakes, but obviously maphackers don't win 100% of the time. A majority of these maphackers were like diamond or really low master before hacking, so they still have a lot to learn about the game, and when you make those lower level mistakes vs higher tier opponents you're going to get crushed
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HyDrA_solic
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Portugal491 Posts
November 29 2012 22:22 GMT
#3828
On November 30 2012 07:00 FeyverN wrote:
^ I just wanna throw this out here:

Maphacking can only get you so far before you hit a plateau. I wouldn't think that if you maphacked you would have a 100% winrate, because even the most blatant hackers lose games.

I'm not sure how true that is, but that is how I see it. APM, multi tasking and macro is sub-par to your level and the only reason you win is because you have 100% winrate vs cheeses and your opponent can't try to "trick" you.


True, I lost once to a maphacker, and after I knew he was maphacker I faced him again and played really conservative.. And Won. He was so bad.
But still it's really unfair..
It's all about the reflections of freedom. Even though he hoped for a better world, with all his strenght, all his will, the most he could do was to make her smile.
FeyverN
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States104 Posts
November 29 2012 23:59 GMT
#3829
On November 30 2012 07:04 Shew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 07:00 FeyverN wrote:
^ I just wanna throw this out here:

Maphacking can only get you so far before you hit a plateau. I wouldn't think that if you maphacked you would have a 100% winrate, because even the most blatant hackers lose games.

I'm not sure how true that is, but that is how I see it. APM, multi tasking and macro is sub-par to your level and the only reason you win is because you have 100% winrate vs cheeses and your opponent can't try to "trick" you.


i never said it's 100% winrate. They are still bad players so they make really basic mistakes, but obviously maphackers don't win 100% of the time. A majority of these maphackers were like diamond or really low master before hacking, so they still have a lot to learn about the game, and when you make those lower level mistakes vs higher tier opponents you're going to get crushed

So in a way, if you're playing against someone on the ladder who you know for a hacker, then you can just play a straight up macro game and strain his multi tasking in order to win. In a way, the matchmaking system finds you and the hacker to be evenly skilled, otherwise you wouldn't be playing against the hacker.

It is still really unfair, but I believe if you don't do any gimmicks or cheeses then you should win without a problem.
fuck
Rantech
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile527 Posts
November 30 2012 00:56 GMT
#3830
Hacker name: Skittlenips
Server: NA
League+Rank: High Masters
Replay : http://drop.sc/280065
Description/what to look for into the replay: Proxied 2rax rauder. Constantly looking at my base. Check his first person.
stava88
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel31 Posts
November 30 2012 01:12 GMT
#3831
I can confirm 100% Fox on NA server is a maphacker.
Played against him on entombed, 8 pooled him, he then re directs probe from natural pylon to in base one, builds a forge and gateway in his main and then a cannon, doesn't send any probe to cannon rush me or anything. All of the above without scouting at any point.
I can supply you with a replay if needed.
ranjutan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States636 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 08:25:02
November 30 2012 03:51 GMT
#3832
http://i53.tinypic.com/1r3j0p.gif
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
November 30 2012 05:30 GMT
#3833
Just played Fox on na, proxy 2 gate in my main on shakuras without looking at minerals.

http://drop.sc/280188
aka SethN
Melaine
Profile Joined October 2012
United States56 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 06:00:34
November 30 2012 06:00 GMT
#3834
@ shrew, there are plenty of map hackers who are GM with out map hacking, but they are Comp sci majors who help produce the sc2 hacks, so alot of the top GM map hack you see, are in fact GM with out map hack, But MH to bm players for their sick enjoyment, so your statement that "all map hackers are noobs and bad" is pretty false.

Even with map hack, you still have to know how to play and micro/macro, mh does not do that for you. I hate map hackers to, and most are bad, but the ones in Master+/gm+ can get there with out map hack.


Fxo-tricky is a perfect example of this, He can hit GM with out map hacking, but MH just to bm and harass Top lvl Pro gms
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
November 30 2012 06:12 GMT
#3835
On November 30 2012 15:00 Melaine wrote:
@ shrew, there are plenty of map hackers who are GM with out map hacking, but they are Comp sci majors who help produce the sc2 hacks, so alot of the top GM map hack you see, are in fact GM with out map hack, But MH to bm players for their sick enjoyment, so your statement that "all map hackers are noobs and bad" is pretty false.

Even with map hack, you still have to know how to play and micro/macro, mh does not do that for you. I hate map hackers to, and most are bad, but the ones in Master+/gm+ can get there with out map hack.


Fxo-tricky is a perfect example of this, He can hit GM with out map hacking, but MH just to bm and harass Top lvl Pro gms


absolutely none of that is true.
aka SethN
DerBeutelWolf
Profile Joined November 2012
Belize15 Posts
November 30 2012 06:42 GMT
#3836
On November 30 2012 15:12 TylerThaCreator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:00 Melaine wrote:
@ shrew, there are plenty of map hackers who are GM with out map hacking, but they are Comp sci majors who help produce the sc2 hacks, so alot of the top GM map hack you see, are in fact GM with out map hack, But MH to bm players for their sick enjoyment, so your statement that "all map hackers are noobs and bad" is pretty false.

Even with map hack, you still have to know how to play and micro/macro, mh does not do that for you. I hate map hackers to, and most are bad, but the ones in Master+/gm+ can get there with out map hack.


Fxo-tricky is a perfect example of this, He can hit GM with out map hacking, but MH just to bm and harass Top lvl Pro gms


absolutely none of that is true.


Tricky, Impa, or GERUDO as he is called now IS GM without hacks. I saw him stream recently WITHOUT hax and he was in GM, beating GMs...
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
November 30 2012 07:07 GMT
#3837
On November 30 2012 15:42 DerBeutelWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:12 TylerThaCreator wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:00 Melaine wrote:
@ shrew, there are plenty of map hackers who are GM with out map hacking, but they are Comp sci majors who help produce the sc2 hacks, so alot of the top GM map hack you see, are in fact GM with out map hack, But MH to bm players for their sick enjoyment, so your statement that "all map hackers are noobs and bad" is pretty false.

Even with map hack, you still have to know how to play and micro/macro, mh does not do that for you. I hate map hackers to, and most are bad, but the ones in Master+/gm+ can get there with out map hack.


Fxo-tricky is a perfect example of this, He can hit GM with out map hacking, but MH just to bm and harass Top lvl Pro gms


absolutely none of that is true.


Tricky, Impa, or GERUDO as he is called now IS GM without hacks. I saw him stream recently WITHOUT hax and he was in GM, beating GMs...


he is still an idiot
Yes im
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
November 30 2012 07:18 GMT
#3838
On November 30 2012 15:42 DerBeutelWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:12 TylerThaCreator wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:00 Melaine wrote:
@ shrew, there are plenty of map hackers who are GM with out map hacking, but they are Comp sci majors who help produce the sc2 hacks, so alot of the top GM map hack you see, are in fact GM with out map hack, But MH to bm players for their sick enjoyment, so your statement that "all map hackers are noobs and bad" is pretty false.

Even with map hack, you still have to know how to play and micro/macro, mh does not do that for you. I hate map hackers to, and most are bad, but the ones in Master+/gm+ can get there with out map hack.


Fxo-tricky is a perfect example of this, He can hit GM with out map hacking, but MH just to bm and harass Top lvl Pro gms


absolutely none of that is true.


Tricky, Impa, or GERUDO as he is called now IS GM without hacks. I saw him stream recently WITHOUT hax and he was in GM, beating GMs...


You can hack while streaming. The fact that you believe hes innocent because he was streaming and it didn't show hacks gives me reason to not believe you.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
DerBeutelWolf
Profile Joined November 2012
Belize15 Posts
November 30 2012 08:56 GMT
#3839
On November 30 2012 16:18 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:42 DerBeutelWolf wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:12 TylerThaCreator wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:00 Melaine wrote:
@ shrew, there are plenty of map hackers who are GM with out map hacking, but they are Comp sci majors who help produce the sc2 hacks, so alot of the top GM map hack you see, are in fact GM with out map hack, But MH to bm players for their sick enjoyment, so your statement that "all map hackers are noobs and bad" is pretty false.

Even with map hack, you still have to know how to play and micro/macro, mh does not do that for you. I hate map hackers to, and most are bad, but the ones in Master+/gm+ can get there with out map hack.


Fxo-tricky is a perfect example of this, He can hit GM with out map hacking, but MH just to bm and harass Top lvl Pro gms


absolutely none of that is true.


Tricky, Impa, or GERUDO as he is called now IS GM without hacks. I saw him stream recently WITHOUT hax and he was in GM, beating GMs...


You can hack while streaming. The fact that you believe hes innocent because he was streaming and it didn't show hacks gives me reason to not believe you.


I also know him in person, and my friend who is a GM has played vs him numerous times. Including custom games WITHOUT that guy hacking and he is actually GM level.

Gj saying ''Absolutely none of that is true.'' when you are clueless
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
November 30 2012 09:10 GMT
#3840
this is not a thread to try to assert your maphacking aquaintances (or so you say) skill. their actual skill level is completely irrelevant. make a new thread called 'GM/Master Map Hacker Appreciation Thread' if you want to do that, this is not the place.
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