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On November 18 2012 17:45 syllogism wrote: Next time lynch the player who claims mafia role blocker. The last few days were incredibly stupid and it was a horrible claim
this.
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edit: DP, grats for winning on your own for so long, of course. But if you ever wanted a definition for "town loss" of a self-inflicted variety, this game was it.
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everytime I think more about this game I cry. Why hasn't prome come back to the thread? Is he afraid?
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So town could have prevented a mislynxh by asking the person to claim. There's no way scum would have known what type of thing to claim as vt.
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On November 19 2012 03:02 kushm4sta wrote: So town could have prevented a mislynxh by asking the person to claim. There's no way scum would have known what type of thing to claim as vt.
hosts would give fakeclaims if asked, probably.
your whole flavour theory thing was very stupid and you should avoid doing it ever again.
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I gave both mafia and SK fake claims.
If they wanted more fake claims I would've provided them.
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Hey, some thoughts about this game and a few apologies/questions.
First off I think there were two major mistakes which I made this game and I would like to apologize to town for them.
The first was the Thrawn lynch. It was my goal with that vote switch to keep everyone interested and active and to pressure Thrawn in particular to be more active in the game. At that point he and DP were the players I had most respect for and wanted to have helping me work towards a town victory. My plan was to come back to the thread 1-2 hours before lynch and push the lynch back onto Release since the JK claim meant that one of Release/DP had to be scum (unless something crazy happened). Unfortunately TL was down for at that time, I couldn't get on until after the lynch deadline and Thrawn was actually lynched. I feel that the mods should have pushed the deadline back since people were having trouble acessing TL but the fact that I went for a gambit to bring people's attention back to the game instead of the safe either/or lynch is 100% my own fault; I apologize to town.
The second had nothing to do with the mods and everything to do with me, I had a night post written that boiled down to "if DP lives he is 100% scum" I thought I would be back in the one hour action resolution period but I didn't make it. My fault all the way and I'm sorry.
If I had managed to avoid one or the other of these mistakes town would have won. So in some ways Kush is right, this loss is my fault. However, as I said to him when he PM'd me after the game, each and every member of town left had the chance to be the hero and actually do the work to figure out who scum was. Kush was sure himself that it was DP and voted Release because he wanted to be able to call me stupid, that there is not good play and as much as I am responsible for our loss so is Kush.
DP: you played as a good game, a more competent town would have caught you but that is always true in Mafia. You played this out exactly as you had to to have any chance of winning and congratulations on pulling it out. As much as my mistakes lead to the town loss your successes did the same. I am, of course, disappointed in my own mis-plays and those of the rest of town but, congratulations on a game well played after being screwed over by your teammates.
Hiro/WBG: y u no extend deadline when I couldn't get on TL???
Rest of town: sorry for the stupid plays I made that turned a won game into a lost game.
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You should had realised DP was scum the very second he claimed Jailor and lynched him on the spot when he told you his protections.
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On November 19 2012 06:41 risk.nuke wrote: You should had realised DP was scum the very second he claimed Jailor and lynched him on the spot when he told you his protections.
Probably true. It was actually your case on him that planted the seed. Since I knew you 100% had to try to make a case on scum at that point it made me think he could be and as I thought about it more realized how right you were. More bad play on my part that I didn't see it sooner.
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I did not realize that mods would be so willing to give fake claims. Considering this, yes I was wrong. I will never mention flavor again. Sorry all I hate myself.
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Also sorry for bitching you out in pms prome and sorry for saying it was all your fault. DP just makes me rage I'm sorry.
Dp was actually so obvious. The last red had to be pr. That is the argument you should have made at the end release. Instead you were talking about how you were still alive and that makes you town? Made no sense to me.
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Kush I fucking told you we had fake claims and you continued to go on about it after I'd died. I just don't even....
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I have never experienced fake claims before and I didn't think it was likely. I thought the flavor was like a clue that was meant to be exploited by town.
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Kush. This is your fault. Together, we could have lived happily ever after. (with 1 scum among us, but regardless...)
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On November 19 2012 06:25 Promethelax wrote: Hiro/WBG: y u no extend deadline when I couldn't get on TL???
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On November 19 2012 06:41 risk.nuke wrote: You should had realised DP was scum the very second he claimed Jailor and lynched him on the spot when he told you his protections.
What a crock of shit. My claim was no less realistic than Fuba's or thrawns until later.
They should have lynched release AND THEN lynched me. THAT was the correct play.
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On November 19 2012 09:09 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 06:25 Promethelax wrote: Hiro/WBG: y u no extend deadline when I couldn't get on TL??? ?
TL was down at the lynch deadline on the day we lynched Thrawn, this was not just a problem for me (it was talked about in the Obs for Mario) not being able to do what I had planned at that time fucked me, and town over, as did the fact that I set up a play that could be ruined by two hours of TL downtime.
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On November 19 2012 09:52 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 09:09 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 19 2012 06:25 Promethelax wrote: Hiro/WBG: y u no extend deadline when I couldn't get on TL??? ? TL was down at the lynch deadline on the day we lynched Thrawn, this was not just a problem for me (it was talked about in the Obs for Mario) not being able to do what I had planned at that time fucked me, and town over, as did the fact that I set up a play that could be ruined by two hours of TL downtime.
Don't blame TL being down. It was a stupid gambit in the first place. You knew you were dealing with sheep. Why bother with their activity? Just let the sheep follow you, and if, as you say, you had me all figured out that is all you needed.
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In fact the whole thing about writing cases in case release flipped green was stupid and therefore gold for me. It allowed me to push my thrawn lynch at the request of confirmed town Prom without my motive for doing so being questioned.
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Because I hate sheep. I know that isn't a good reason. I made stupid plays trying to get people besides you playing the game. It went badly. I will not do so in the future. Believe me, I feel bad already, after I was dead Marv sent me a "we need to talk" message and after the game ended Kush sent me a "WTFWTFWTFWTF this game is 100 no 200 percent your fault" message.
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