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On November 18 2012 15:59 Goldfish wrote:Can't believe Rain almost lost. When you get ahead... don't do silly things that make you not get ahead anymore. He had two base and contained Creator for a few mins (with +10 probe lead) then decides to attempt to attack in instead of leaving  .
Rain had 4 immortals coming. If Creator came down just 3-4 seconds later, Creator would have been annhilated
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On November 18 2012 15:59 Slayers Boners wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 15:53 fire_brand wrote:On November 18 2012 15:51 Slayers Boners wrote:On November 18 2012 15:43 ChrisBrownPlaya wrote:
SC2 looks like, the more apm and harrass u do... the more u lose. Rain and hero both.
BW the multi prong harrass rewards you. Man, hero should have never lost that game. Although Sen got harassed out of his ass, he actually managed to keep a 20 supply lead the whole time, aka, heout-macroed Hero. ==> Macro>Micro, exacly what a RTS is supposed to be like. No RTS is supposed to be Macro>Micro. It's supposed to be a balance of the two. If it's Macro>micro its probably a terrible RTS. It might as well be Sim City. Alright, I concur with your point, but Hero apparently did not quite balance between micro and macro, which is why he was behind in supply. The ideal case would be like the Drg vs Rain OSL series where Rain managed to multitask harassing while maintain a supply lead.
Some people just don't understand what's the different between good harass and bad harass. Godd harass will make u ahead because you cripple him while macroing at home.
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On November 18 2012 15:57 monk. wrote:
Haha, the front page picture is so appropriate now.
Just checked, yup it's appropriate. :D
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On November 18 2012 15:59 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 15:59 BeholdOblivion wrote:
Hahahaha, please some argue that this is worse that ZvZ or ZvP somehow. Brilliant games. ZvZ is half of the time is much much better than PvP.
And the other half of the time, it's S-RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR into a broodling orgy.
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On November 18 2012 15:57 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 15:55 Whoranzone wrote:On November 18 2012 15:53 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 18 2012 15:49 Whoranzone wrote:On November 18 2012 15:47 LOLItsRyann wrote:On November 18 2012 15:45 Whoranzone wrote:On November 18 2012 15:44 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Cannot stand people qq-ing about Zerg right now. Out of 4 games, 3 Protoss make it through, and you're balance complaining that it wasn't a 100% clean sweep?
Get the fuck out. Yeah so astonishing against zergs that had accomplished jackshit. Mm, I guess you're right. Sen's pretty bad. wait... Yeah I am sorry I must have missed all those 2012 titles of him. Oh wait... Nestea have no title this year but I wouldn't say that he has "accomplished jackshit" Feel free to add a this year if it makes you feel better. It was you who did the 2012 specification. Sen is an accomplished player and that's that.
QFT. I can't believe this guy.
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On November 18 2012 16:00 AgentW wrote:
I'm no PvP expert, but wasn't Creator's cute little immortal drop thing a huge mistake? That seemed really dumb against blink at the bottom of a ramp with FFs.
If it remained hidden it could be good.
Also, he should turn the warp prism into flower mode and ferry there. much faster and safer IMO
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On November 18 2012 16:00 TdX wrote:
creator shld have won this. those 2 stalkers thrown away is just so disgusting
I feel he should have lifted Rain's immortals first instead of the sentries...he waited too long to go up the ramp as well.
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wut a crazy game OLOLOLOL
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On November 18 2012 16:00 AgentW wrote:
I'm no PvP expert, but wasn't Creator's cute little immortal drop thing a huge mistake? That seemed really dumb against blink at the bottom of a ramp with FFs.
he was certainly hoping to be unscouted.
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My favourites will be Sen and Rain for the rest of the tournament,
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On November 18 2012 16:01 Hopelessnoob wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:00 AgentW wrote:
I'm no PvP expert, but wasn't Creator's cute little immortal drop thing a huge mistake? That seemed really dumb against blink at the bottom of a ramp with FFs. If it remained hidden it could be good. Also, he should turn the warp prism into flower mode and ferry there. much faster and safer IMO
what was up with the void ray?
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Great decision making, great crisis management, sick unit control... Rain is such a talented player.
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United States97274 Posts
winner of creator vs rain should win the title unless something crazy happens
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 Creator vs Rain
Game 2 - Ohana
Standard openings from teh two protosses with small variations in gas-timings and creator with the slightly earlier core. Creator's choice of tech was air, while Rain chose blink. While creaotr hid three phoenix, Rain moved in for a 7minute blink timing at creatos natural. With Creator falling back, Rain warped in sentries and guarded the ramp between the main and natural of Creator. Creator started robo and with his first immortal tried to move down to his natural. Though Rain inititally seemed occupied elsewhere, a last second forcefield cut off the immortal on the low ground and creator was still trapped.
As Rain expanded, creator restarted his air-production and a warp-prism. Creators attempt at regaining his natural proved unsuccesful as the warp-prism was killed off. Finally Creator broke through, as the energy of the sentries of Rain ran out and fighting commenced. Though Rain looked to be in great condition, his army was split in two and both parts were destroyed by Creator in turn. Still far behind in economy, Creator barreled for the natural of Rain, where an epic fight resulted in Rain retreating to his main with three blink stalkers and a sentry. Creator, out of resources in his main, desperatly tried breaking up the ramp, but as the sentry cut off two stalkers of Creator, Rain could finally finish what he had started 15 minuted earlier.
Rain almost threw an unlosable game, but showed great micro and composure to win with the slightest margin, 1:1
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On November 18 2012 16:02 Oboeman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:01 Hopelessnoob wrote:On November 18 2012 16:00 AgentW wrote:
I'm no PvP expert, but wasn't Creator's cute little immortal drop thing a huge mistake? That seemed really dumb against blink at the bottom of a ramp with FFs. If it remained hidden it could be good. Also, he should turn the warp prism into flower mode and ferry there. much faster and safer IMO what was up with the void ray?
I think it was to harrass or maybe deny the nat? i am not sure but i think it was a bad decision... Rain would just warp in 3 stalkers at home and kill it.
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Damn. This match is a $24k/$32k match. HUGE payout if you advance here...
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On November 18 2012 16:00 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 15:59 Whoranzone wrote:On November 18 2012 15:57 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 18 2012 15:55 Whoranzone wrote:On November 18 2012 15:53 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 18 2012 15:49 Whoranzone wrote:On November 18 2012 15:47 LOLItsRyann wrote:On November 18 2012 15:45 Whoranzone wrote:On November 18 2012 15:44 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Cannot stand people qq-ing about Zerg right now. Out of 4 games, 3 Protoss make it through, and you're balance complaining that it wasn't a 100% clean sweep?
Get the fuck out. Yeah so astonishing against zergs that had accomplished jackshit. Mm, I guess you're right. Sen's pretty bad. wait... Yeah I am sorry I must have missed all those 2012 titles of him. Oh wait... Nestea have no title this year but I wouldn't say that he has "accomplished jackshit" Feel free to add a this year if it makes you feel better. It was you who did the 2012 specification. Sen is an accomplished player and that's that. Again if it makes you feel better - an accomplished player that accomplished jackshit for an entire year. Why are you so stupid? You do realize that Sen does play in his taiwan league right? He hasn't played in any major tournaments this year that I can think of except maybe NASL (can't remember). I don't get you rhate of sen, but learn what you are talking about before spouting stupidity. P.S. Give credit also Sen outplayed Hero in game 5, no ifs ands or butts about it. He played it good and hero made mistakes and lost.
Come on don't be so mad. Taiwanese leagues are about as impressive as the eps we have here and nobody would claim it being a huge deal winning it.
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On November 18 2012 16:00 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 15:59 Whoranzone wrote:On November 18 2012 15:57 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 18 2012 15:55 Whoranzone wrote:On November 18 2012 15:53 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 18 2012 15:49 Whoranzone wrote:On November 18 2012 15:47 LOLItsRyann wrote:On November 18 2012 15:45 Whoranzone wrote:On November 18 2012 15:44 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Cannot stand people qq-ing about Zerg right now. Out of 4 games, 3 Protoss make it through, and you're balance complaining that it wasn't a 100% clean sweep?
Get the fuck out. Yeah so astonishing against zergs that had accomplished jackshit. Mm, I guess you're right. Sen's pretty bad. wait... Yeah I am sorry I must have missed all those 2012 titles of him. Oh wait... Nestea have no title this year but I wouldn't say that he has "accomplished jackshit" Feel free to add a this year if it makes you feel better. It was you who did the 2012 specification. Sen is an accomplished player and that's that. Again if it makes you feel better - an accomplished player that accomplished jackshit for an entire year. Why are you so stupid? You do realize that Sen does play in his taiwan league right? He hasn't played in any major tournaments this year that I can think of except maybe NASL (can't remember). I don't get you rhate of sen, but learn what you are talking about before spouting stupidity. P.S. Give credit also Sen outplayed Hero in game 5, no ifs ands or butts about it. He played it good and hero made mistakes and lost.
Sen outplayed HerO badly that game, even if not for Sen playing well, HerO played badly.
Whoranzone, regardless if Sen is a silver league player, or 17 time GSL Cose S champion. HerO played bad. Fucking admit it.
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I wish they had Wolf and Khaldor simultaneously casting on another stream.
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On November 18 2012 16:03 Hopelessnoob wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:02 Oboeman wrote:On November 18 2012 16:01 Hopelessnoob wrote:On November 18 2012 16:00 AgentW wrote:
I'm no PvP expert, but wasn't Creator's cute little immortal drop thing a huge mistake? That seemed really dumb against blink at the bottom of a ramp with FFs. If it remained hidden it could be good. Also, he should turn the warp prism into flower mode and ferry there. much faster and safer IMO what was up with the void ray? I think it was to harrass or maybe deny the nat? i am not sure but i think it was a bad decision... Rain would just warp in 3 stalkers at home and kill it.
maybe he wanted to counterattack with voidray plus all his phoenix, and that would be enough to lift an entire-warp in and kill them off and snowball out of control like it would in pvz?
i dunno, because i've never seen that before in pvp
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