I haven't played a single game of SC2 in over a month. I haven't watched a tournament or stream in longer than that. I have a close friend who quit the game too, both of us were masters with random. Neither of us are buying the expansion, and we LOVED starcraft. We waited outside GameStop at midnight to buy it on release day. We used to play on a daily basis and watch tons of tournaments. We just realized that it isn't that fun of a game. This is just anecdotal evidence of course, take it as you will.

MountainDewJunkie

United States10340 Posts

October 27 2012 03:27 GMT

#182

All this blog did was make me agree with Destiny.

dark0dave

179 Posts

October 27 2012 10:03 GMT

#183

Thank you for presenting a balanced point, instead of rage. Destiny is already a lol player

Torpedo.Vegas

United States1890 Posts

October 27 2012 13:22 GMT

#184

SC2 is making progress. Why is it so hard for people to try to look at the glass half full. Every single month SC2 has new and exciting posts about how once again the final nail in the coffin is in. People who have moved on to enjoy other games seem like they also need to trash the game they left in order to get some kind of justification for playing other games.

Clearly if you play another game besides SC2 its because SC2 is must have failed right? If its not first its last. If that is the kind of mentality people have towards it, then be all means involve yourself in another competitive community. I suspect those same people will be hopping on a new game in a year or two when the next hype machine game comes out.

Drown blizzard in as constructive of criticism as possible. Stop searching for the apocalypse.

MooseMasher

Sweden42 Posts

October 27 2012 14:07 GMT

#185

Doa, you're the man!

Very mature and sound post. Good contrast to the whiny complaining that has become the norm!

Bravo :D

jpak

United States5045 Posts

October 27 2012 14:26 GMT

#186

On October 27 2012 22:22 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
SC2 is making progress. Why is it so hard for people to try to look at the glass half full. Every single month SC2 has new and exciting posts about how once again the final nail in the coffin is in. People who have moved on to enjoy other games seem like they also need to trash the game they left in order to get some kind of justification for playing other games.

Clearly if you play another game besides SC2 its because SC2 is must have failed right? If its not first its last. If that is the kind of mentality people have towards it, then be all means involve yourself in another competitive community. I suspect those same people will be hopping on a new game in a year or two when the next hype machine game comes out.

Drown blizzard in as constructive of criticism as possible. Stop searching for the apocalypse.

For some it's FIRST OR BUST. Try to be happy with what you have and just seek to improve upon what you have. Envy and jealousy only lead to destruction.

I learned this the hard way.

sgt_cr

Costa Rica95 Posts

October 28 2012 07:25 GMT

#187

This is a great post, one of the best on TL, or the internet in fact about esports/sc2 in general, and life in general.

Not a fan of DoA in general and I dont like his castings that much, but still a great post, keep up the good work man. I wish more ppl read it and really understands the meaning of the post instead of just go ballistic and start QQ

EvilLiBraRian

South Africa43 Posts

October 28 2012 13:01 GMT

#188

I stopped playing/watching SC2 a few months back, largely with the aim of giving DotA2 a try (being a huge DotA fan). I don't think I'll come back to be honest ... My decision has very little to do with balance or gameplay. There were one or two things that bothered me, but I was diamond on EU - what do I know?

The absolutely main reason I would rather play DotA2 is that it is 100% geared towards the competitive scence. I don't think I even need to flesh out what I'm talking about here. Anyone who has played both games knows what I'm talking about.

Everything from the pricing structure to tournament viewing is just so much better ... Bear in mind this is a game that uses Steam ... Ya, I didn't think that would be possible either.

If Blizzard's team aren't seriously worried SC2 is not going to be the game it could of been.

Mirrikh

Romania105 Posts

October 28 2012 17:34 GMT

#189

I agree with the point you make. It's definitely not doomsday. As far as I've seen it, the "negative" attitude people are your regular attention seekers.

Protoss-Bah

74 Posts

October 28 2012 18:24 GMT

#190

Well, negativity leads to nothing. I have written Blizzard in tickets and in forums that they need to make HotS more noob/casual/beginner player friendly. If more casual/non-professionals play SC2, there will be more viewers for competitive SC2 - not focus so much on answering to the concerns of pro players. If they continue on this road focusing 99,99% of their resources just on balance - HotS might still be competitive and watched by many its not going to fail, but its going to be less noob-friendly.

You can criticize, you can be doom-and-gloomy if you feel that is the truth. Personally I don't think SC2 is going anywhere for a very long time, but there are things that needs to be looked at for HotS/PotV to be better games and one of the main concerns is casual players and integrating them into SC2.

Its not about positive versus negative criticizm, its about true versus false criticizm.

BTW, you and Moletrap did a great job casting OSL finals! I really miss you two back in Code A, I barely watch any Code A anymore since you and Moletrap left...

See.Blue

United States2673 Posts

October 28 2012 22:37 GMT

#191

Great post

Teim

Australia373 Posts

October 29 2012 01:55 GMT

#192

I agree, positive criticism with solid suggestions on how to improve something will always get better results. However, it's much easier to just say "hurrr X is bad" rather than to actually come up with some creative solutions on how to resolve a problem.

I think the most shocking thing about this post was learning that Destiny is still relevant. The guy is nothing more than a gimmick yet still apparently has a large fan base?

Zirob13

Costa Rica44 Posts

October 29 2012 09:07 GMT

#193

Doa is right, why do we need to listen to Destiny a League of Legends player with no real accomplishments in SC2? Does he have a crystal ball to tell the future or payed a some kind of voodoo shaman to tell him whats going to happen in 2 o 3 years? Cmmon get serious here, SC2 wont die cause somebody in their basement says so, we must take the positve and bury all the negative. This applies to everything in life, like for example when your trying to start a new business there will be tons of people who will come to you and say: "Dont do it, its a bad idea, your going to lose your money, youll never suceed, not enough market", etc. but in the end they are just jealous and dont want to watch you grow. Blizzard is a huge company and Im sure they wont let this game die. They do listen to us. So I say F them and lets enjoy the glory of the upcoming GSL - Proleague - MLG - DreamHack and WCS matches. Long live StarCraft!

cmcaneff5502

United States116 Posts

October 29 2012 16:43 GMT

#194

destiny just loves coming in and immaturely ruining anything he can get his hands on. so obnoxious. Thank you, doa, for saying something different than the countless posts we've seen recently that agree (more or less) with destiny's attitude.

SamsLiST

Germany184 Posts

October 29 2012 17:01 GMT

#195

SC2 feels like driving in a car really fast and getting bypassed by another one that drives faster: you feel like driving backwards XD.

So if SC2 (to some extend every Blizzard game lately) is not improving fast enough or is not the "best" or most played game out there we all feel like beeing on a sinking ship.

to change that, I guess I am with Doa here, we have to be more construktive.
On the other hand there needs to be someone that makes the outcry.- I really think Destiny caused more good with his outbreak than bad.

Gruesome

United States84 Posts

October 30 2012 13:17 GMT

#196

Children don't listen to logic and whatever else anyone wants to believe, the anonymity of the internet removes 30 years of intellectual maturity from its posters.

Never expect to "convince" anyone of anything because they are only looking for an argument.