GSL Mini Mafia III - Page 15

On October 22 2012 03:02 drazak wrote:
I think he's stalling and I'd like to see him post, I wanted to see him post last night when I fell asleep, but it was a little too early.

On October 22 2012 03:04 marvellosity wrote:
Z-Bo, I disagree with your entire read on austin regarding that drazak stuff.

His stance is entirely understandable and mirrors my own pretty closely. It's not rational for town OR scum to say you're gonna kill a townie (for slightly different reasons), and the conclusion from that is that it's somewhat of a null tell.

In other words, I've been leaning townie on drazak because of the overall feel of his filter; not because what he did in that instance I felt was strongly scummy or townie.

On October 22 2012 03:45 Z-BosoN wrote:
my case on austin, the death of v7, Keirathi, yourself.

On October 22 2012 03:53 Z-BosoN wrote:
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Well, you really think he is scum and should insta-die before he's even had a chance to defend himself? I'm uncomfortable sending him to his grave like this...
I'd like to know if you are scum. Think about it. It's the pro-town thing to do. If you are scum, it's pro-town because town will lynch a scum. If you are town, then it's pro-town that we don't have to kill you. Tell us

On October 22 2012 03:20 Z-BosoN wrote:
Pretty much.
It's more of the tone of his posts. On Liquid City, note how he finds a small breach in detail and immediately tunnels on it. He did the same thing in LVII against me. He demonstrates an aggressive, investigative style.
This isn't what I'm viewing from him this game. He's being passive and inconclusive on his reads. His only vote is deemed a "provocation" one. I do not view it as a real attempt at pressure, and his general filter seems off.
In my mind the townie austin would have been all over drazak or DP over something such as has happened in this game.

On October 22 2012 04:00 Hapahauli wrote:


Uhhgggh fine I'm scum.
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But in all seriousness, is there anything you want me to address? Like I don't understand this helpless attitude you're taking to making a read on me. I understand jokes to a point, but I'm not unreadable and I'm a bit suspicious of this nonchalant attitude you're taking to determining my alignment.

Yah I'm a bit surprised at how little Kei has contributed so far. Early D1 caveats of course, but I always had the impression that his town play was very active on the early days.

On October 20 2012 09:22 Hapahauli wrote:


The nice thing about policy is we can choose how strictly to enforce it or not. I just would like to set the stage for some discussion, and create an environment where people aren't scared to seriously pursue scumreads.

On October 22 2012 04:01 austinmcc wrote:

Hmmm. I'm glad I don't seem crazy tunnelly. Look at Looney Lynching and my play there, or my comments in obs chat. Yes, I've been exceptionally tunnelly in some recent games. It didn't work out well.

I'm curious though, why would you think townie austinmcc would be all over drazak or DP?

On October 22 2012 04:33 austinmcc wrote:
His not posting could go either way, it doesn't really do anything.

On October 22 2012 04:33 Z-BosoN wrote:

Yea, so should we lynch him because of it?

Right now, and I haven't looked at his past play recently, but v7 is sticking out to me somewhat. The DP stuff was EASY to mine for activity last night, poke at it poke at it poke at it. And very safe too, because the way he started to flop around felt townie, so you could attack attack attack and just say "Eh, his flopping around townie." A couple of us did that, but [v7] has almost only talked about his past games and the DP stuff last night. (AND THEN HE MAY HAVE SPOILED GSL, UNSURE, I AIN'T CLICKING THAT UNTIL I WATCH)

There's nothing more than that to go on, but out of all the people who have some posts, his feel like there's the least in them.

Much of your posting is just about DP last night, and everyone seems to have concluded that DP is town because of how he explained/tried to explain himself. That was just easy activity and an easy way to make it look like you cared about something.

That applies to me too. We can all be suspicious of EVERYONE who has basically only been active for that.

I don't feel there's anything about this suspicion that I want you to address though, whether as town or scum you are going to disagree, but feel free to expand on anything if you want.

On October 21 2012 08:02 austinmcc wrote:

I don't remember kei in LC tbh. I was mostly inactive D1, came back looking at those couple specific people, died before I had a good handle on the full game.

Kei from Aperture 2 I feel like is a solid townie as far as being active, looking town, once the game starts. Not...the type of player who takes advantage of that, though? Basically was the towniest person in game, was going to get protection, but kind of let spammier people take over and direct the flow of the game, and noticed that that was happening (kei, your game was much more fun when we were scumhunting than claiming/solving the game bit). I expect some good and insightful posts from him, but I haven't seen him be particularly aggressive.

I think we also played...rockband? And maybe another game? I'll have to look through. I don't have a big meta handle on keirathi, but I'm also not generally good at catching people via meta or even USING meta. I mainly focus on picking out odd questions, or questions that never got pursued. That seems to be when I'm most effective, and so I'm going to try and mine the thread hard for things that stick out.

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Right now, and I haven't looked at his past play recently, but v7 is sticking out to me somewhat. The DP stuff was EASY to mine for activity last night, poke at it poke at it poke at it. And very safe too, because the way he started to flop around felt townie, so you could attack attack attack and just say "Eh, his flopping around townie." A couple of us did that, but DP has almost only talked about his past games and the DP stuff last night. (AND THEN HE MAY HAVE SPOILED GSL, UNSURE, I AIN'T CLICKING THAT UNTIL I WATCH)

There's nothing more than that to go on, but out of all the people who have some posts, his feel like there's the least in them.

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Not relevant to anything that's happening, but spoilered for DP and so thread can see my thought process:
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On October 22 2012 04:45 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well, as you yourself said, a lot of people jumped on DP for this. You removed blame on them because they continued to post and make contributions. So in a way, the fact that he isn't posting when ONLY having done that in this game is why people want him dead right now. Since he hasn't posted yet, I'm concluding that he's not reading the thread, and not really giving a damn.
Marv, what say you?