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On October 13 2012 22:26 ReaperX wrote: Some of the people that lived in the house have given very insightful comments on the reddit thread. I can't believe the boss is getting away with this... It really sucks for the players that went there to practice and grind. Desrow went way overboard with the reaction as he snapped but what the boss offers and does in general seems extremely fucked up.
yes, karmy was defending MOW last time around...this time raound his comments arent so positiv anymore (tried to strongarm him like fuzer....again...same shit )
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I guess his english skills say enough :D
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I think MoW will end pretty soon aswell, the head coach didnt seem like a guy that was very open to change.
Some of the players will probably leave soon aswell, and I cant image new ones comming in after all the shit:D
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Everytime I tune in Morrow's stream he eventually goes for a "MC Donalds Run", I was wondering what's up with that...
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So nobody cooks breakfast, and for dinner they get soup + a sandwich. I'm not sure I would be too stoked about that arrangement either.
I don't think what Des said was out of line at all. He only raised his voice slightly to counter the absolute screaming coming from the "manager" with poor english. That manager wasn't listening to him at all or providing anything useful, basically just trying to talk down Des like a jerk.
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On October 13 2012 22:36 creamyturtle wrote: So nobody cooks breakfast
Is this the norm for you? I was under the impression that cereal was the standard breakfast with cooked breakfast as a hangover cure?
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On October 13 2012 22:36 creamyturtle wrote: So nobody cooks breakfast, and for dinner they get soup + a sandwich. I'm not sure I would be too stoked about that arrangement either.
I don't think what Des said was out of line at all. He only raised his voice slightly to counter the absolute screaming coming from the "manager" with poor english. That manager wasn't listening to him at all or providing anything useful, basically just trying to talk down Des like a jerk. "You are fucking jews..." that's not raising his voice slightly. Both parties acted immaturely.
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On October 13 2012 22:41 Silencioseu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 22:36 creamyturtle wrote: So nobody cooks breakfast, and for dinner they get soup + a sandwich. I'm not sure I would be too stoked about that arrangement either.
I don't think what Des said was out of line at all. He only raised his voice slightly to counter the absolute screaming coming from the "manager" with poor english. That manager wasn't listening to him at all or providing anything useful, basically just trying to talk down Des like a jerk. "You are fucking jews..." that's not raising his voice slightly. Both parties acted immaturely.
Raising your voice means VOLUME, not choice of words. The word Jew doesn't offend me, especially when he wasn't using it as a racial ephithet. derp
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On October 13 2012 22:41 TheMooseHeed wrote:Is this the norm for you? I was under the impression that cereal was the standard breakfast with cooked breakfast as a hangover cure?
Well its the norm for Korean pro houses.
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On October 13 2012 22:44 creamyturtle wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 22:41 TheMooseHeed wrote:On October 13 2012 22:36 creamyturtle wrote: So nobody cooks breakfast Is this the norm for you? I was under the impression that cereal was the standard breakfast with cooked breakfast as a hangover cure? Well its the norm for Korean pro houses. Ahh ok didnt realise. With the amount of physical activity going on in sc2 practice I wouldnt have thought it was necessary to have a heavy breakfast.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On October 13 2012 22:48 TheMooseHeed wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 22:44 creamyturtle wrote:On October 13 2012 22:41 TheMooseHeed wrote:On October 13 2012 22:36 creamyturtle wrote: So nobody cooks breakfast Is this the norm for you? I was under the impression that cereal was the standard breakfast with cooked breakfast as a hangover cure? Well its the norm for Korean pro houses. Ahh ok didnt realise. With the amount of physical activity going on in sc2 practice I wouldnt have thought it was necessary to have a heavy breakfast.
in Korea cooked breakfast is standard. has nothing to do with SC2. Its just the korean culture that if you live in a house you get cooked breakfast from your family. Like rice, rice cake and verious side dishes.
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Id be more angry about the diversity.. From what has been said on food its usually the same over and over again each day each week.. that gets pretty annyoing aswell. I mean i could be fine with soup + sandwich as lunch once maybe twice a week - but not every effin day.
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It was not the boss, but a new employee in the house and the situation got fixed within 10 minutes
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So now it's wrong if we say Desrow hwaiitiing? :D
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This won't be a super-ultra professional statement and fluff, there is no need of that anymore. I hope a lot of people will understand the point of Ministry of Win, because this is first and the last big explanation – of the project and me as well.
Allegations of the other players that left Ministry of Win in last topic: Most of you never said anything about the problems while you were staying in the house. It’s too late now, you know? Still - thank you for your contribution.
Parties in Ministry of Win: They happened, mostly with the other guys on weekends (yes, guys, with you drinking glasses of vodka as well, thank you for your contribution in here). Other situations were happening not often and not without any reason. It grows to a large size. Too large size.
Sound file: This was obviously not me (Maciej) in the room, I came later and invited desRow to the office, where we handled the whole situation. Michael acted improperly and too emotional, as well as desrow did. We explained everything in the office – it shouldn’t have appeared on the stream. We find desRow as a really good guy – that’s the reason why he got invited to the house for free as well. It’s all about desire to practice as well.
Food issues: We were trying to change and improve the food as much as we could. Remember one thing – services costs 2500PLN a month, it’s good to remember all the costs that we are covering: - House Rent - High speed Internet - Electricity - Gas - Other bills - Car (so we can drive with the guys to the desired places) - Salary - Chemical stuff - Food - Cook - Cleaner - Laundry - etc…
It is sad that most of you think that living in Poland is THAT cheap. Most of the costs (similar to the house rent) are spent on the food and cooking staff – about 10.000 PLN+ each month. Unfortunatelly, to keep this project alive we can’t provide 5 meals each day. After a loud expression of the opinion by Marc and one of the managers of MoW, two meetings were held this day, which were aimed at the final elimination of the problem. They have been carried out effectively, and further steps will be taken very soon – maybe even exchanging the Staff in this project. (It’s not offending anyone, we may just have to test something else). I would like you to stop talking about the money because it is not the point of this project at this level. It is impossible to tell you everything as this is a company secret. Let’s start to behave mature. There will be always problems with the food, as everyone is different, everyone likes other things, everyone needs more/less to eat. After this few months it’s sure that we will never satisfy everyone living in the house. It’s impossible with the actual price and the conditions. The reason of the price being 2500PLN is to make this place cheapest as possible – so it can grow faster as well. Some people said “Boss is money hungry”. What? Seriously? Go back to the costs again, please.
About my person: Yes, it is Maciej right now. I would like you to understand one thing. This house is our house. Players are our guests. We require our guests to stick to our rules. Rules are simple, as in normal house, no one had any problems with that before. If someone had, we were trying to solve them as soon as possible. I did not spent almost one year now (yes, it was my idea and my work through the whole time) to make this place as it appears in media right now. I was always trying to be a nice person. Sometimes yes - I was too emotional, but it has nothing to do with current situation. Please, stop it.
PS. Noticimus, “Edit #2 After one of the parties they actually asked the players if they could borrow money to fund electricity bill for a month, they probably used their budget on sausages and alcohol(there was a lot of alcohol)” this is too cool. I will print it and stick it to the wall above my desk.
MoW statement from reddit
tldr : shut up we´ll take your money. we party so what? its our house. it cost money and even time (surprise)
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Well, the guy in the recording sounds either drunk or with a bad english. As a player manager, he surely needs to be able to communicate well in English. This shoots the professionality of the house down a lot. Kind of makes the whole situation disappointing even more so, that the issue seems to be ongoing and still unresolved.
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MoW just seems like a joke. Why is everyone there again? Is that environment really a good training environment for these guys?
Wen was the last time anyone heard anyrhing good about MoW?
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
On October 13 2012 22:54 Chexx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 22:48 TheMooseHeed wrote:On October 13 2012 22:44 creamyturtle wrote:On October 13 2012 22:41 TheMooseHeed wrote:On October 13 2012 22:36 creamyturtle wrote: So nobody cooks breakfast Is this the norm for you? I was under the impression that cereal was the standard breakfast with cooked breakfast as a hangover cure? Well its the norm for Korean pro houses. Ahh ok didnt realise. With the amount of physical activity going on in sc2 practice I wouldnt have thought it was necessary to have a heavy breakfast. in Korea cooked breakfast is standard. has nothing to do with SC2. Its just the korean culture that if you live in a house you get cooked breakfast from your family. Like rice, rice cake and verious side dishes. You're right except for the rice cakes. They're quite upscale desserts that you wouldn't usually have with your breakfast.
Going by their statement I don't think anything will change. A shame. It was a nice idea.
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Destiny just tweeted the lunch today in the MoW house
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